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No. 417. Mabch 20, 1858.] THE .LEADER. _...
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Imperial Parliament. Monday, Marcji 15th...
POVlCr OF THE OOVBBNMEINT . On the order of the day for the report of the Committee of Supply * Mr . Bjbumal Obbobke complained of Hie om * ai * iaTnentar y course pursued by the present Gol « nni > entin abstaining from an intelligible declaration If their principles and policy . " There >« d ^ been an obscure statement in another place on their behalf , and that statement had been made more obscure by observations of other members of the Government m the country . ( Hear , hear . ) He admitted that an administration had been formed equal in personal character and ability to any administration that he had ever seen ( hear , hear * ); but the question was not their ability or their respectability ; the question was , what were their principleswhat was their policy ? Lord Derby
, spoke at very great length on the subject , but he said very little to the purpose . His speech related rather to the exigencies of his own position than to any line of action which he intended to pursue . Much , had been said about the composition of the Ministry . But what were their antecedents , and did they not stand in a minority in that House ? The Government called upon them for three things—time , forbearance , and money . Before granting any one of these , he thought they ought to ask what was the right of the Government to make these demands . " Alluding to the defeat of the late Government , Mr . Osborne confessed he was sorry that Lord Palmerston had not sent an answer to Count Walewski ' s despatch ; but he thought the omission to do so -was but a venal error , -which did not justify
toe -withdrawal of the confidence of the House . More fcad been said of the despatch than it deserved . " Lord Ellenborough had reprobated anything like an attempt o extemporize a constitution for India ; but they were now to have a bill altering the Government of India from the ' Ministry of which he was a member . ( Hea ?; hear . * ) The right hon . member for Enniskillen had denounced the late Government for attempting a reform in the administration of Indian affairs ; but he now held office under a Government which had undertaken that task . ( Hear , hear . *) The Earl of Derby , referring to the question , and seeking to justify the course which he was about to pursue with regard to India , said he had a great respect for the opinion of the majority of that House . When was that respect shown ? { Hear , hear . * )
When a majority of that House passed the Jew Bill , did the noble Earl reBpect their decision ? He ( Mr . Osborne ) thought it was a species of hypocrisy for the noble Earl to say that the majority of that House had altered his opinion as to the time for bringing forward the measure . What course did the Government intend to pursue with regard to the Bank Act ? T he right hon . gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer was ready some time ago to legislate on that question . Had tlio Government settled that question among themselves ? ( JTear , hear . ) What were they to do about church-rates and about education ? What-was the course they intended to pursue with regard to the Jew Bill ? The Lord Chancellor of England was the most resolute opponent of that bill . Now , as to the government of Ireland ; they had heard no allusions in
another place , or on the hustings , as to what policy would bo pursued towards that country . They could only judge of that policy by the appointments which had been made , and ho believed these were not looked upon with favour by the Irish people . The late Lord Chancellor of Ireland declared that ho would not appoint any man to the magistracy who was an Orangoman . What did the Government intend to do in that respect ? Again , as to education . The present Lord Chancellor of Ireland is opposed io the national system of education , and advocates the rival system . What was to bo the conduct of the Government with regard to Maynooth ? Would they maintain the endowment of that college ? Lord Derby hud made a promise to bring in a lieform Hill . The noble Lord had no desii'e for Kolbrm , but , if pressed , ho -would bring in a bill . Ho ( Mr . Osborne ) wanted to know what sort of bill that wus to bo . " Ho hoped ho
should succeed in eliciting aomo satisfactory answers . The Chancellor of the Exoiucquieu observed that they had just heard a voice -which hud been silent fora long timo . The weapon of the hon . gontloman had become u little rusty ; but , with practice , it would resume that brightness which dazzled thoni of yoiv . ( Laughter . * ) Tlio Government had been taunted with not produoing n programme of its moABiu'es ;¦ but no new Government evor did ao . They had also been accused of a want of unanimity in their opinions on certain questions ; but the Into Government hud difl ' erud rogarding churoh-mtew , the Jew Bill , and tho ballot . The policy of tho prosont Administration is Consorvativo ; but Minis torn doairo to improve as well as to
pueeorvo tho institutions of tlio country , ilo denied that there hail boon any inconsistency about tlio India Bill . Boforo Easter , Parliament nnd the country would bo ablo to judge , Their Irish policy would bo tho aiuno as that horotoforo-adoptod- 'bylaord .-Ugltntoun . — £ JUuo ~« ytttoin- < of national education there would bo hold iuvlulalu ; but , if that system could bo combined , with a just roliuf of Church moIiooIs , which , now receive no assistance from tho State , tho question would well dosorvo \ ho consideration of Parliament . " With respect to Reform , they would endeavour to frame a weamiro on that subject which should bu uatitslaotory to aoboi' -nilutled poraoii * . It would bo founded on principles of general ju & tioo , and would not bo constructed with any party puriioso .
Mr . Hobsman attributed the downfal of the Paltnerston cabinet to tde fatal and inveterate habit of the late Premier of always looking to the Opposition benches for support , and turning the cold shoulder to his own party —of converting and neutralizing his foes rather than confirming his friends . He trusted that Lord Palmerston would ponder on hi *> mistakes , before again coining into office . —Lord John Russell said he did not want a declaration of policy from the Government . It would be sufficient for the House to consider their measuresas they were developed . He disapproved of the intention of appointing Orange magistrates in Ireland . " He heard with alarm that the right hon . gentleman ( Mr . Disraeli ) proposed , by his scheme of education in Ireland , to give advantages to one class that would tear up by the roots the institutions of the country . With regard to the Reform Bill , the reproaches which the right , hon . gentleman had thrown upon Earl Grey and Lord AlunfoundedEarl
thorpe were totally untrue and . Grey , Lord Althorpe , and the present Earl of Derby , were parties to that bill ; and could he charge them with being privy to Whig jobbery ? They had been out of office for years , and were averse to holding office ; and what , therefore , eould they have to do with such transactions ? He confessed that he should look with very great suspicion on any bill the right hon . gentleman might bring forward after the opinion he had given expression to . He should consider that he ( Mr . Disraeli ) would act in the same way that he charged others with acting , if he had the power . They had very little to expect , in the way of Reform , from the present Government . He was quite sure Lord Derby would not hold out hopes he did not believe would be realized ; and from him they learned that they were not to expect any measure of reform . He should , therefore , look with suspicion on any bill the right hon . gentleman had anj ' thing to do ¦ with . "
Mr . Drusimond spoke briefly in support of the Government ; and Lord Palmerston said that , in the passage of arms which had just come off , neither party could be considered the victor . The late Government had been taunted -with depending for support on the Opposition ; but he thought that support was equally creditable to the Ministers and to those who gave the support . He had been described as a Tory ; but he had supported the noble Lord the member for the City of London in all the measures he had brought forward . He and his friends did not intend to oppose the present Government if the policy they pursued should be deserving of confidence . He was content to leave [ the conduct of the late Government in the hands of any impartial judge . The report of the Committee of Supply on the Army and Navy Estimates was then brought up and agreed to .
s upply . On the motion that the House go into Committee of Supplv , Mr . Bagwell inquired relative to the practice which he understood prevails among certain army agents of taking money ( 550 Z . ) to procure commissions in the army , which they do by granting an order to raise fifty recruits , when the commission follows as a mutter of course . The practice is open , and is advertised in the papers . —General Pjjtkl stated , iu reply , that jio agent had ever been authorized to act in the way stated , and by the Mutiny Act any unauthorized person is liable to a penalty .
The House then went into Committee of Supply , Mr . Fitzhoy in the chair . — General Picel moved an extra vote of 500 , 0001 . for militia expenses , —Sir G . C . JjEwis saw no necessity for the vote , and suggested the postponement of tho motion , in order to ascertain whether tho Appropriation clauses would not eftect a transfer of a saving in one department of the army to another , which was the real object of tho vote . —Mr . Willjams complained of these transfers , which were in reality a surreptitious mode of obtaining a vote without coming to tlio House . —Sir G . C . Lewis deniod this . —Sir John TnELAWNY urged the postponement of tho vote . —Lord
John Russell , the contrary , thought it better to got tho money by a diroot voto than by the indirect operation of the Appropriation Act . —Tho vote wa 3 then agreed to . —8 i 9 , 286 if ., for salaries and expenses in tho Customs department , wore asked for , but , after some discussion , tho motion was withdrawn , in order that money might bo voted ou account . —1 , 000 , 000 / . were then voted for post-office salaries ; ( fuO ., 000 / . fornalarios in tho inland reveuuo department ; 242 , 700 / . for superannuation and compensation alloivanoeH ; und 120 , 000 / . i ' or salaries in tho Customs department . Tho House adjournod about nine o ' clock .
7 ' tteaili'i / , March H > t / i . Tli . 13 HLAVK TUAIH 8 . In Lho IJousk ov Lomw , Lord JiitouonAM presented a petition from tho Anti-Slavery Souioty , compluiuiug of tho results of tlio free iiiiiuifrnitiou of uogvooa into tlio Iflland-o £ ~ Giuadulouim . Mudurj , Uu , M Government . Tlio Earl of AI . vuMKdiiUJ . iY oaid that , aluco ho had ucuupiud hid proNOiit |> i > at , m > iuloruiullon had cuiuo to him from hor Mnjesty ' d Consuls wiilivogard to Iho . particular cima to which his noblo ami louruod friond had
ivfeiTCd . Uotwcon tliin now ltaunuh plim of . carrying ireo nogj'oos and lliouMtiluvu trade , Llioro wa « a distinction without a diu ' oroiuo , an . I lie noed not , ho hoped , usauro his uoblo i ' rloud tuut the Government would uso all
their endeavours to discourage the practice . -He teas afraid that a great deal of suffering took place , * od that a great many lives were lost , in voyages of the kind referred to ; and the intelligence received , during the fewdays he had been in the Foreign-office , convinced him more and more that a strict rule must be established . — Lord Beotoham begged also to call attention to the use that was . made of the . French flag by the Spanish slave traders , to enable them to carry on the traffic .
TRANSF 1 SR OF ESTATE SIMPLIFICATION SILL . On the motion for going into committee on this bill , Lord St . Leonards said he proposed to shorten and simplify abstracts of titles , and that forty years -should be the term to which these abstracts should apply . The bill provided that a person who sold a title knowing it to be false should be punishable with fine and imprisonment . —Lord Cbanwobth believed that several of the provisions of the bill would prove very advantageous ; but to other provisions he objected . —The Lord Chancellor said he should propose , at a future period , to refer the bill to a committee up-stairs .- —The bill then went through committee profvrma , and -was ordered to be recommitted on the ensuing Thursday fortnight . The second reading of the Law of Peopebty Amendment Bill was , at tbe request of Lord Cjbanwokth , postponed by Lord St . Leonards to next Monday .
EAST INDIA LOAN BILL . This bill was read a second time on the motion of Lord Ellenborough . Referring to the finances jo £ the East India Company , he said that towards the expenses of tbe ensuing - year about one million will 'be available * while it is calculated that those expenses will amount to 5 r , O 00 / . it was therefore necessary to borrow money for the use of the Indian Government ; but ie had no doubt that funds would be forthcoming fcr the repayment of the loan . He anticipated a speedy coudusion of the Indian revolt . THE LI ETTTENANTr-GOVERNOR OF BENGAL . The Earl of Ellenborough : moved that the name of Frederick James Halliday , Esq ., Lieutenant- < 3 ovemor of Bengal , should be inserted in the resolution of thanks passed to the civil and military officiate in India , on the 8 th of February . By excluding Mr . Halliday from the vote of thanks , they would cast a slur on his character to which it should not be subjected , because that . gentleman had done the State goodservice . —Lord Pahmube joined most cordially in the proposition . —The motion was agreed to . —A similar motion- was carried in Uie Lower House , on the motion £ > £ the Chanoelju > b of uhk Exchequer . Their Lordships adjourned at a quarter jiaat jBeisen o ' clock . CASH EL ELECTION . In the House of Oosimons , the Speaker announced that he had received a letter from Mr . J . J . Scully , informing him that it was not his intention to prooeed with the petitions presented last August , containing charges of bribery in the late election for Cashel . —tl & x . Wajjpolk intimated that there was some legal difficulty as to discharging the order for referring the petition , to the general committee of elections . He therefore proposed that , instead of discharging the order then , it should be left to the general committee of elections rto determine what course should be pursued . —After some conversation , the debate was adjourned till the following Tuesday . MIUZA ALJ AKJBAB .
Sir Dis Lacy Evaus moved for a copy iuf all correspondence between the Court of Directors and the Government of . Bombay , respecting the dismissal of Miriui Ali Akbar ( iu continuation of Parliameatry pa-per £ 15 , session 18580—Ordered .
CORPORATION O . ELONDON ' . BILL . In reply to Ma * . Bkady , Mr . Walfole said it was . his intention to move the reappoiutment of the aolect ^ eojnuiittoe whioh was appointed by the late Government upon this bill . TJUK CASE OF MU . J-IQIMUS , In reply to Mr . Hohsman , the Chancellor of this ExciiEQuicit stated that tho surrender of Mr . Hodge , who was arrested in Sardinia , had been demanded by the French < Sov * inment ; hut , under the treaty of extradition between Sardinia and Great Britain , it was not competent to tho former to comply with that
'demand without tlio consent of England , and ft demand had boon hurIo upon hor M « JeHty ' s Government that Mr . Hodge should bo surrendered to Franco , Hor Majesty ' s Government hud called for tho papers found upon Mr . Hodgo , and , having examined them , and being of opinion that they wero not sufficient to warrant his <*> mmittal by a magistrate in Knglnnd , they had declined to resent to tlio cluinuml . —Mr . Hoiisman asked whether there would bo any objection to tho publication of tho corrobpouduiico on tho subject . —Tho Cuanckllok of line KxcniCQUKK » ai < l tho correspondence wus mowtly tclc » R'rnphi < f' -riinH > o-did ~ uot-tIiiuJi . Jlt-wo . uld ^ bo-oxtJodiftut . to lay it upon tho tahlo of tho House .
SUl'l'fcX . On tho roport of tlio Committee of Supply , Sir Q . C Lkwib anh < id Tor an explanation of tho vote of 500 , 000 / . i ' or the umliodiod militia , which was au Au-dlLiou ito the army oatluialou , and what wan done with the lftKgc savings which iiuint noeoasiirily accrue from tho Iwgo niuubov of iuou touwfoa-ed to . tUo lEasfc India . Company .
No. 417. Mabch 20, 1858.] The .Leader. _...
No . 417 . Mabch 20 , 1858 . ] THE . LEADER . ___&&
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Leader (1850-1860), March 20, 1858, page 3, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_20031858/page/3/
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