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    • June 20, 1857.] THE LE1DEB. _ ^79

      June 20, 1857.] THE LE1DEB. _ ^79

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      Imperial Parliament. —-•?—%-I Mon&Xg, Ju...

      Baron Rothschild , as his illustrious colleague ia the re-^ entatioQ ef London ( Lord John Russell ) had already filed that office . ( Laughter . ') If the Attorney-General could spare a moment from prosecuting the British Bank Qamg Mer ) , and if Baron Rothschild were to write de liberately a short note , and publish it in that great journal which dictates to the world , but not to Mm ( Mr . % hiteside ) r stating what he conscientiously believes resDecting Christianity , his honourable and learned friend aoeht to appear in the Court of Queen ' s Bench and prosecute Baron Rothschild , because every man who inineaches the Christian religion attacks not only the monarchy and the constitution , but subverts the law , for the law is Christianity . —Lord John Husselu warmly opposed the rampant bigotry of Mr . Whiteside , and supported the bill , which would show the superiority of real Christianity over Judaism . —Mr . Nevvdegate supported the amendment ; and Lord Palmerston , having first complimented Sir John Pakington upon the frank avowal of his change of opinion , replied to the objections offered to the proposed form of ' the oath , observing that the House is not a religious , but a political , assembly , and that it is not entitled to inquire into the religious opinions of its members , except so far as they may tend to influence and sway their political conduct . —Upon a division , the amendment was negatived by 34-1 to 201 . On the question that the clause stand part of the bill , Mr . Walpolb inquired whether the bill was to stand as it was drawn ; because , if so , the Jews and Roman Catholics are put upon a different footing . He-asked whether the clause in Lord John Russell ' s bill , restraining Jews from holding offices which Roman Catholics cannot hold , would be inserted ia this bill ?—Lord Pal-MERSTON replied that her Majesty ' s Government had no intention of making any alteration in the bill as it then stood . . Lord Robert Cecil , moved that the Chairman report progress ; but this motion was negatived upon a division . . Mr . Bentinck . asked for a distinct answer to the question whether it was tlie intention of the Government that the Jews should be eligible to the offices of Lord Chancellor and Prime Minister ? —Lord Paemkrston replied that the bill was hot a bill of disqualification , and therefore , as it stood , it would not . ¦ prevent Jews from holding those appointments . If any members wished to raise a discussion upon this point , lie should have no objection to the Chairman ' s reporting progress after the lirst clause was agreed to . The first clause having passed , a further uusuecesstuJ attempt was made to report progress , and , alter some discussion , the other clauses of the bill were agreed to . The Sound Dues Bill , the County Cjtss ( Ireland ) Bill , and the- Militia ( Ireland ) Act Amendment Bill , were respectively read a third time and passed . Other bills were advanced a sta . gc ; and , some further business having been disposed of , the House adjourned at half-past one o ' clock . j ± ot

      j nesdar / , ane « . EQUALIZATION OF POOR RATES . In the House op Lords , the Earl cf Mauiesbtiby presented petitions from several parishes in the metropolis praying for the equalization of poor rates . He thought that some arrangement ought to be made by which the rich parishes should contribute tlieir quota towards the rates of poor parishes ; but at the same time he felt satisfied that some check should be put upon the poor parishes , so that they should not ruu into extravagant expenditure . ministers' money ( Ireland ) bili ,. The Earl of Ellen borough hoped that before they proceeded with the second reading of this bill , there would bo laid upon the table an account of the present revenue and expenditure of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners in Ireland . There was an account up to 1849 ; but it was idle to ask the House to come to any decision on the question unless they know tho stale of tlio funds in the hands of the Commissioners . On principle ho did not object to charge these funds with Ministers'Money ; trat it wns desirable to know whether the funds worecapable of bearing tho charge . —Tho Earl of Wioklow thought that tho Commissioners should bo henrd by counsel before tho sacond reading of tho bill : IJU > IA . Lord Moxtmaole asked if it was tho dot . riniuatiou of the Government to consolidate tho two courts in India , as had boon promised?— -The Duko of Argyll said that no promise had been given that those courts would bo conaolidatod , though tho noble Lord had , our a former oooasion , charged tho Government with a distinct breach of faith in reference to the subject . Tho project , which was attended with much dlflioulty , would bo considered by tlio Legislative Council of India . REFORMATORY lKHTITUTIONS IULL . Tho Earl of Carnarvon moved the second reading of this bill . According to tlio present law , iioruone up to the ngo of sixteen may bo rocolveil into Uel ' oruiiitory Infltitutiona ; and ho proposed to ox toad the « igo from sixteon to twenty , undur curtain restrictions . Out of 106 , 000 prisoners committed In a year , ' 25 , 000 or 20 , 000 ' are between tho ngos of . fifteen uml tw . nly . Tho bill waa merely supplementary , mid proiioriod to rtlni |» llfy the . eUaaluctttiou of pupils , but introduced no now principle . •—Lord Brougham supported tlio ueconil raiding , but could not express bis approval of tho whole OaiLuIU of tho

      measure without further consideration .. —Earl GRAUrvillej approved of the objects contemplated by the measure , but suggested the desirability of leaving the contduct of legislation oa the subject to the Secretary of State for the Home Department . —Ultimately , the Earl of Cabnaevgn agreed to adopt a suggestion made by Lord Brougham , that the debate should be adjourned , and the bill thus kept alive until Sir George Grey ' s bill should come ixp from the Commons . —The debate was accordingly adjourned . THE BATHING BILL . The Marquis of Wesxmeath moved the second reading of this bill , which was introduced for the prevention of indecent conduct at bathing places on the coast © f Kent . —Earl Granville remarked that powers are already possessed by the authorities in the corporate towns on the coast to make by-laws on the subject referred to , and they are the proper persons to deal with it . He also conceived that it was quits impossible to adapt the measure to . country district ' s .. —The Marquis of Westmeath did not press the measure ; and the bill was negatived without a division * The House adjourned at t-wenty-five minutes past seven o ' clock . BANKRUPTCY AND INSOLVENCY ( IRELAND ) BILL . In the House of Commons , at a morning sitting , the House went into committee oa this bill , to which Mr . Macartney , Mr . Vance , Mr . Whiteside , and Mr . Malins , made ^ yarious . objections , the last-named suggesting that the bill should be referred to a select committee . Mr . Hadfield drew attention to the state of the law relating to imprisonment of debtors , which he condemned as expensive to parishes and ruinous to families . He also argued against long imprisonment for contempt of court . —Mr . JIalins then moved that the Chairman report progress , in order that the Government might give the bill further consideration . —The Attorney-General for Ireland declined to x"efer the bill to a select committee , or to allow the Chairman to report progress , as he believed the measure had been amply considered already . —After some further discussion , the motion for reporting progress was withdrawn . — -Several of the clauses were agreed to , while others were omitted or postponed . On clause 29 , Mr . Vance moved to _ strike out the appeal to the Lord Chancellor . This was ultimately agreed to . The Chairman reported progress , and the sitting was suspended . The House reassembled at sis o ' clock . THE PRINCESS ROYAL ' S ANNUITY . The following message from , the Lords was brought up bv Mr . Baron Watson and Mr . Baron Ghannell : — " The Lords have agreed to the Bill entitled an Act to enable ' her Majesty to settle an annuit 3 ' on her Royal Highness the Princess Royal , ' without any amendment . " MILITARY EDUCATION . Sir De Lacy Evans gave notice that , on the 7 th of July , he would submit certain resolutions on military education .

      THE r-iVFJEK JIITI . Mr . Dilwyn inquired whether it was the intention of Government to levy the paper duty on materials capable of being written and printed on , but made froaa animal libre , or to leave such materials exempt from duty , as parchment now is?—The Chancellor op the Exchequer replied that the Solicitor to tho Customs was of opinion that the article referred to , and for the manufacture of which he understood a company had been formed , fell under the designation of ' paper . ' THE WORKHOUSE SYSTEM IN IRELAND . Mr . Fag an called attention to tho present state of the workhouse system in Ireland and to the laws relating to medical charities and the relief of the poor , and moved for a Select Committee to take the subject into consideration . He suggested tho propriety of separating portions of tho workhouses , and devoting them to hospital purposes . —Mr . II . Herbert stated tho reasons why , in his opinion , a Committee should not bo appointed , at that period of tho session , to enter upon so largo and important an inquiry . The attention of the Government had boon turned to tho matter , and ho thought the time had urrived , and that tbo Government wore in possession of sufficient facts , for legislating cautiously , ia another session , upon this subject . —Mr . Faoan accordingly withdrew his motion . POOR-RATIC 3 . Mr . Ayrton moved for a aelocfc committee to inquire into tho causes of tho inequality of tho poor-rates in the ! metropolitan districts , and whether any measures tthould bo adopted to render tho ratea more equal . He bad bean induced to bring tho question beforo the House in 1 coiisoquouco of the representations of a ffceat nnrokr of 1 persona , including several clergymen , of the Church of Eualftiid . The amount of property involved ia fourteen millions , rated at about 800 , 000 / . Tho anomalies of tho present system of aaseasmont to poor-rates ano striking . : quote an instance : —The St . KathorJno ' s Docks are | situated in a small pariah , and tho London Docks form part of a lurgo pariah , tho consequence of which id that 1 tho latter have to contribute to yyor ,-ratoa for labourers ! omployed in the former . Ia fie" ™" ) tUo London Dooka pny 10 , 000 / . a year , and tho St , Kalherlne ' , only aqpa-1 ratoil from it by apnrty-wall , pay only 714 / . Thia waa-1 not nn isolated case-, for whilo llio Uonkof England and 1 Hoyul Kxchango contribute onlj 70 / ., tho Apothecaries '

      Hall contribute 230 L Again , one side of Bridge-street ,, Blackfriars , pays 12 ,. O 00 i ., while Lombard-street , King William-street , and Cornhill r pay together only 615 / . Some parishes rated upon 172 , 000 / . pay 6350 / ., while others rated upon 02 , 000 / . pay 11 , 350 / ., and in some parishes the rates had increased upon , an average 2 di in the pound , while , in others , being poorer parishes , they had increased Is . Oid . in- the pound . —Mr- Townsend seconded the motion . Mr . Bouverie said that already some four hundred members were occupied on committees , and that a vastly greater number would be similarly engaged when the election petitions caine on . It required no select committee to ascertain tire causes of the inequality of taxation ; but , with respect to the metropolis , it should be recollected that London is not so much a city as . a vast province covered with houses , the parts baring' little connexion with each other . The honourable gentleman had shown that property is unequally rated ; but he had not shown , or attempted to show , that any change ia the area of taxation would benefit the poor . The burden is a burden on property , and he did not see that the inequality of the rate 3 would justify an attempt at the equalization of it , for the property had been purchased subject to the rates . The causes which had operated in producing the increase of . the rates are national causes , and prevail throughout England as well as in the metropolis . Therefore , if the inquiry were granted , it would take a far wider range than was contemplated by the han . gentleman , and he thought the question was too important to be dealt -with in the manner proposed . Union rating might be an advantage , and he should be glad to aid in passing a measure for the union rating of the city of London , but he did not think it would be a sufficient remedy for the grievance to which their attention had been drawn . A national rate for the support of the poor could never be maintained , as the failure of the experiment in Ireland in 1847 , and in France in 1848 , sufficiently proved . —The Chancellor of the Exchequer spoke to the same general effect ^ and the motion was further opposed by Mr . Knight , and supported by Mr . Butler , Mr . John Locke , Mr . Malixs , Mr . Barrow , Mr . Schneider , and Lord Robert Gkosvenoe . —Mr . Ayrton having replied , the House divided , when the motion was negatived by 123 . to 81 . STANDING ORDERS : DIVISIONS . Mr . Packe moved an alteration in the standing orders relating to divisions , increasing the interval between taking the voices and closing the door from two minutes to four on Wednesdays . —The motion waa opposed by Mr . Fitzroy and Lord Palmerston , and negatived . The House then went into committee upon the Grand Juries ( Metropolitan Police District ) Bill , upon which the House was counted out at half-past twoo ' clock .

      Wednesday , Jtme 17 th . GUISTLNIANl ' s OATH BILL . Mr . Monsell explained the objects of the bill , which was introduced to carry out the measures which have been adopted for the purpose of naturalizing the Princess Guistiniani . It was necessary that the Princess should take certain oaths before her naturalization could be effected ; and , as she was unable to attend in this country , it was proposed that slie should take the oaths before her Majesty ' s Minister at Florence . In conclusion , ho moved that tho standing order be suspended ; that the bill be read a first and second time and committed ; and that the committee on the bill should have leave to proceed and report forthwith .. —The motion was agreed to ; and tho bill was read a first and second time , and referred to a select committee . COMMITTEE , The House then went into committee on the Registration or Long Luashs ( Scotland ) Bill , and tho Industrial Schools Bill . Tho clauses of the former were agreed to without discussion ; but a good deal of opposition was offered to tho various clauses of the latter , and several wore struck out , others added , and some modified , tho effect being to prevent the sending of children to prison for a simple act of vagrancy or bogging ; to give magistrates power to set a child so charged at liberty at onco without recognizances ; to withhold the power aought to bo given to magistrates to demand security of 20 s . from tho parents ; to oblige magistrates to send tho vagrant child ,, if desired by tho parents , to such industrial school as may bo conducted in conformity with tho parents' religious opinions ; and to require from the parents payment of all expenses when the chFld ia removed on any other than religious grounds . The House having resumed , the G-bawd Juries ( Trkland ) Act ( 1886 ) Amendment Bill was read a third time , and passed . A , t ten mmutos to six , tho Houtao adjourned . JTmrsday , June 18 th . AIANISTKRS' MONIfiY BILL . Earl G . RANVU . LK moved tho second reading of thiu bill , indicating the strong necessity that exists for doing away with the evil which it Beeka to remove . It woh true that at present there is no balance in tho hands of tho Irish EealosiastioaJ , Coramissaionors , to whoso funds it wae proposed to Iraoafor tho charge ; but it was impossible to look into tho returns without seeing that various reductions mi « ht be made In their expenditure , aud was It not worth while to economise m fcoroo rosnoct for tho purpoao of romovbitf tho practical dilucultles ftrJalng from LUo collection of Ministers Money ?

      June 20, 1857.] The Le1deb. _ ^79

      June , 1857 . ] THE LE 1 DEB . _ ^ 79

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    • Leader (1850-1860), June 20, 1857, page 3, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_20061857/page/3/