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Imperial Parliament. Monday, Jtdy 25. Lo...
obiect of the bill was toreduce the Sheriff ' s expenses ; bK e police must be paid , and ^ out of the pobce rate it would in some counties operate unfairly . He had no objection to . ^ inquiry into ; the subjects-Mr . Henley remarked that the Sheriff , who j as re _ sponsiblefor order , had nbw . no control over the police He should vote for the amendment . —Sir tx . ^ ° observed thafesome objections had been made to the bill to which it was not justly liable . Its object was not to diminish real authority , but a pa / f ^ y * the reason for which had disappeared , ^ additional police would be required in the absence of the jave-Un-men , except , perhaps , in the smaller counties . The real difficulty had been adverted to by Mr . Henley—namely , the legal anomalies arising froin the relations between the High Sheriff and the Chief Constable of Police . —Upon a division the amendment was carried by U 5 to 112 ; so the Bill is
The House then went into Committee upon the Municipal Corporations Bill , the clauses of which were agreed to . . ' ' ¦ . „ On theorder forgoing into a Committee of Supply , Sir C . Napier renewed his motion for an address to her Majesty to appoint a Commission to inquire into the management of Greenwich Hospital . —Mr . Whitbread opposed the motion . If during the autumn , after the Government had had an opportunity of thoroughly investigating it , they found themselves unable to deal with the subject , then would be the time , he said , to move for a Royal Commission .- ^ Sir C . Napier ' s motion -was negatived by 142 to 82 . ^ The House then went into committee of supply , and passed several votes .
On the grant of £ 15 , 985 for the National Gallery being proposed , Mr . GpsiNaHAM arid Mr . Spooser successively moved reductions in the amount , the former wishing to retrench the sum allowed for travelling expenses , and the latter hon . member proposing to withdraw the . £ 10 . 000 appropriated for the purchase of . new pictures during the current financial year . Both reductions were discussed and carried to a division , but in each case rejected by large majorities . The vote was ultimately passed in its original form . The House having resumed , the Income Tax Bill was read a second time . Other bilis were advanced a stage .
The chairmen of the committees appointed to examine into the elections for Wakefield and Dartmouth reported that in both eases the returns Avcre found void on account of bribery . —Mr . Collins moved that in all cases where an election was declared void for bribery or corruption no new writ should issue until two days' notice had been given in the votes . —The motion was agreed to . The House adjourned at six o ' clock . Thursday , July 28 . In the IIoxjsE of Lords yesterday , the Divorce Court Bill was . passed through committee , after a prolonged discussion on its clauses . The Diplomatic Pensions Bill was read a second
time . Other bills were advanced a stage , and their lordships adjourned . _ , The House of Commons , at the morning sitting , went into a committee of supply , and proceeded with the discussion of some further votes belonging to the series of Civil Service Estimates and Contingencies . The Gal way Harbour nnd Port Acts ( 1853 ) Amendment Bill was read a third time and passed . On resuming at six o ' clock ,
Sir C . Wood , replying to Mr . Biught , stated that he should move a formal resolution to the effect that the House , on Monday next , would go into committee for the purpose of enabling . the Secrotary of State for India to raise a further loan for the service of the Indian government . When that resolution came forward for discussion , it was , ho added , his intention to make the annual statement respecting the financial position of our Eastern empire . In reply to Mr . II . Bruce , the Home Sisoiirtaky announced that he did not intend to proceed during the present session with the Highways Bill or the City of London Corporation Reform Bill .
of her Majesty ' s Government . It would be satisfactory to the House , he said , if it could be assured that no such communication -wag made ; otherwise the Government had committed the same fatal mistake as in 1848 . In his opinion it was not necessary that England should not be represented at the congress ; he thought it was never the interest of thi 3 country to attend any congress unless the balance of power—that is , a change of territory that would increase the power of a State already too powerful—was affected . But it was said , although the balance of power was not concerned by the transfer of Lombardy to Sardinia , there was another consideration which Lord J . Russell called " the future of Italy ;"
arid he had said that , at the conference after the Crimean war , the Government was committed to a certain policy towards Italy . But what was recommended before war and to prevent war , was very different from what was recommended after a war had broken out and ended . If Lord J . Russell was at once to attend the conference in order to advance the interests of Italy , in consequence of the Treaty of Villafranca , would he not be bound by all the conditions of the treaty in reference to Italy ? How , then , would he deal with the Duchies ? Was it " wise , then , that we should be drawn into the conference ? He trustedthatMinisters wouldnot feel it to be their duty to recommend her Majesty to send any representative to the
projected congress . With regard to the French Emperor ' s declaration of a reduction of armaments , Mr . Disraeli said , There was no wild or monstrous nonsense in suggesting , at a time when our taxation was greatly raised in consequence of very necessary measures of defence , that our ally should take this opportunity of establishing the sincerity of his friendship , of which I do not doubt—of establishing it by the . reduction of his armaments . It seems to me a natural position for the expression of those intentions , and which I have no doubt , if he entertains , he will carry out in all sincerity . But the Emperor ought to understand that Parliament sympathises with that policy ; and that if he pursue it with sincerity — as I have' no doubt he will — they will respond to it ; but he ought to understand that we suggest that policy from no idle sentiments , but in the most businesslike manner . But we must know what the
reductions are , just the same as he will know what are the reductions which we shall make , and which we will give him ample security shall be made . Ho must not imagine that it is because the peace principle is predominant in thisHouse that such a policy is suggested , and the Emperor must not have that feeling which he has been said to entertain , that we should be treated like children ; nor must lie hope by telegrams of unmeaning phrases to lead the opinion of this House . I believe that this great prince is too great a man to hope to do that ; bnt I think it is most proper that he should do something in accordance with what he has said . The reduction of armaments is a natural and proper policy , and one which we may fairly expect now that peace is concluded . It is a policy that this country would hear of with satisfaction , and would give any security our ally might require ; but it must be a real , undoubted reduction of nrmaments . It must not be
an affair of vague and fine phrases , and of ft declaration of policy , in which , I believe , he is sincere j but it must be made with real sincerity of will , so as to put an end to misconceptions with reference to the conduct of that prince which I am more than inclined to bolieve have no foundation whatever * "We may then say that he has effected some good for humanity , that the war , though bloody , lms been a brief one , and that what ho has done mny tond to restore a good understanding between England and France . —Mr . Bowybk hoped that England would take no part in the conferences , and eulogised the administration of the Papal States as being just ,
humane , arid progressive . —Lord Palmekston , replying to the question urged by Mr , Disrnoli , stated that no formal proposition had boon transmitted from the English Govormnent to Austria with respect to terms of pacification . They had , however , bocomo the chnnnel of intercommunication for somo suggestions emanating irora Franco during tho course of the war , ami intended to put an end to hostilities , but without endorsing those suggestions with any advice or . opimon oj their own . Ho explained tho position of Jtnluui iifflurs i 1848 and justifiedagainst the reiterate *
atn . , tacks which find , ho observed boeimado « on his conduct at that era , tho policy ho had then adopted with regard to Lombunfy and Venlcodurmg tlie war of indopond , onoo waged ngainet Austria . Tljo noblQ lord then recapitulated and further explained tho various quostlons likely to . ariso at tho forthcoming coiigrosa , and d p Unod tho reasons on ojthorsidowhoroontlicdotornilnation of her Majesty ' s ministers should be founded as to their participation in . or abstlncneo from , tho discussions of the congross . Citing , in answer to Mr . Eowyer , various
either on the part of England or of Prussia . A more immediate influence was , in his opinion , exercised by the terrible sacrifice of human life during the course of the war * brief as had been its duration , and with regard to which both sovereigns had shown themselves not inaccessible to the ordinary feelings of hurrianity . Adverting to the conditions on which the peace of Villafranca was based , the noble lord remarked that the cession of Lombardy to Piedmont involved no serious change in the relationship of European states requiring any interposition from other powers . With respect to the other question—namely , the settlement of an Italian confederation— -the case was , he submitted ,
very different ; and on this point he could not agree ¦ with the opinion set forth in a resolution which Lord Elcho had placed on the paper , to the effect that England had no call to interfere in the congress by which such a settlement was to be definitively arranged . The peace of Europe was too vitally involved in the solution of this problem to justify the abstinence of England from the discussions in which it would be debated . After citing a despatch from Count Walewski , in which the great Powers were invited to confer respecting the general terms whereon the new position of the Italian States was to be consolidated , Lord John stated tliat to that missive no positive reply had as yet been returned , her
Majesty ' s ministers waiting , among other things , to ascertain the extent and the means by which tlie new treaty between France and Austria was to be carried into execution , and whether the latter power would consent to participate in the proposed congress .. It remained also to be seen whether the position which England would assume at the conference was such as gave such weight to her advice as the honour and dignity of the country required . On several points , he remarked , the peace just concluded was so hastily arranged as to leave many doubts and uncertainties as to its practical success . Of these the most questionable related to the realisation of the proposed
confederation of Italian States , respecting which the noble lord pointed out various anomalies and incongruities which , as he contended , must utterly frustrate all attempts to bring the system into harmonious working . Another point related to the means by which the treaty was to be carried into . effect . By one brief but significant clause the Dukes of Tuscany and Modena were to be restored to their states , granting an amnesty . How was this to be accomplished ? If force was necessary would it be employed ? Arid though persuaded that neither the Emperor of France nor Austria would employ their forces in such a service , still , so long as the issue remained uncertain , it would he
unadvisable for England to assume any diplomatic responsibility in the affair . If , for example , the Tuscan population unanimously determined not to receive back their Duke , it would , he submitted , be impossible for an English Government to become participators in any policy which might lead to coercive measures against them . Similar difficulties , in an aggravated form , arose with relation to the temporal administration of the Papacy , which had for centuries constituted the chief obstacle to any permanent settlement of the Italian question . The two Emto
perors had undertaken to recommend the Pope accomplish some necessary reforms ; but this advico seemed not likely to be accepted , and if refused there were no means of actually compelling assent from his Holiness , and yet , if it were left unattempted , the difficulties of the position must be enormously increased . In Naples , Lord John stated , a beginning of improvement had already been effected . The great object to be attained was to secure free and independent government for tho Italians . With this object he believed that tho Emperor of Austria himself concurred , while the Emperor of the
French was most anxious to achieve that consummation . Her Majesty ' s Ministers , were also sincerely desirous to contribute all that in them lay to that end , as boingfca result most desirable in itself , and best calculated to secure the peace of Europe . How this result could be best attained was not at present ascertainable ; but , in the meantime , lie called on the House not to place on record any premature determination so fta to fetter tho discretion of the government . —Mr . DieitAJEin commented upon tho ambiguous terms in which the rocontly concluded treaty had boon spoken of by the Foreign Secre-1
tary , hi relation to the terms . oftorod to the Emperor of Au 8 tria by his natural allies , and which were , in tho Emperor ' s opinion , more severe than those ho obtained from his enemy . He wished to have clearer information upon this point . Had lier Majesty ' s Government come into possession of such aschomo , and was it , with their sanction , placed bofore the Emperor of Austria ? It had reached him ( Mr . Diernell ) , though tho statement might Ijo unfounded , that tho so lie me for tlie cessation of hostilities , whlcli the Emperor of Austria doomed so unfavourable compared with , tho tonne offorod by his enemy , reached the Emperor through the agency
STATE OF FOItrciGN AFFAIRS . Lord J . Russem , made his promised statement rospeeting tlie present condition of foreign , affairs . He could havq wished , ho said , to postpono this statement until somo definite settlement had been arrived « vt , but in the present position of affairs ho did not think it rights to withhold the statement from . Parliament . He was glnd to flnd in tho Moniteur of that day an announcement thaif ; the Eriiporor of tho French was about to plaeo his forces by sea and I * upon a peace footing . Tho peace lately concluded had , ho observed , been accounted for by hoth belligerents , as prompted by the conduct of tho neutral powers , a reason which was , he believed , rather founded upon prospective consklorotlons than derived from any present and practical proceeding
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No 488 . Jclv 30 , 1859 . 1 THE LEADER . 88 .
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Leader (1850-1860), July 30, 1859, page 5, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_30071859/page/5/
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