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TOE INDIAN ARMY . In the evening Mr . Buxton called attention to that portion of the report of the commissioners on the organisation of the Indian army , which refers to the amount of force to be maintained in future . The commissioners , he observed , had recommended as a minimum for the maintenance of a standing army in India one comprising 80 , 000 Europeans ^ and 320 , 000 natives . He considered this force much too large and expensive , contending that the finances oi the country , which vereabready in a state of considerable derangement , could not bear the charge , and that to place arms in the hands of so great a number of natives involved serious risk of a repetition of troubles
similar to those from which we had just emerged . — Lord Stanley observed that it was impossible for any man to lay down distinctly and precisely wha £ was the amount of the force that would be required in India . The question did not admit of a positive answer . He noticed the discordant opinions upon this point entertained by various witnesses examined by the commissioners , observing that Sir John Lawrence thought that there should be a large preponderance of European force . — Sir E . Perry considered that the commission had been illconstituted , and that the report vras unsatisfactory . Instead of augmenting our army in India , he said , it should be diminished , which could be done by
governing India in co-operation with the natives and engaging their sympathies . He advocated the introduction of the irregular system into our military establishment in India , the effect of which would be very materially to reduce the expenditure-After some remarks by Colonel Svkes , Mr . Ssiol * - lett , Mr . KiNNAiKD , Mr . Hadfield , and Mr . Vansittart , Mr . Bright observed that this debate involved a question of so much importance that even Reform or home finances could not match it , and he warned Sir C . Wood to lose no time in asking the opinion of ' the House of Commons upon the subject Wood
in the most frank manner . —Sir C . , referring to the inquiries which had been urged respecting the production of the Indian budget , stated . that certain financial accounts would , he believed , be prepared by Thursday next , shortly after which day he would fix a date for the consideration of Indian affairs . With regard to the military question lie . was unable as yet to arrive at any determination as to the number either of Europeans or natives , of which the army in that country should be composed . Two or three years must , he believed , still elapse before it would be safe to reduce the Indian establishment to its normal and permanent proportions .
SESSIONS OF PARLIAMENT . Mr . C . Forster moved an address to her Majesty representing the . inconvenience of protracting the session of Parliament during the summer months , and praying that her Majesty would be pleased to provide a remedy for such , inconvenience by assembling Parliament for the despatch of business before Christmas . He dwelt upon the evils resulting from a summer sitting , and anticipated objections to his proposal for a different arrangement . —The motion was seconded by Mr . Ewart , and opposed by Mr . Bentinck . — Mr . A . Smith , Mr . Liddbll , Lord Claud Hamilton , and" other members having spoken ,
Lord J . Ri / ssell submitted that the question was too serious , as involving the transaction of the whole legislation and business of the country , to be settled by a merq motion and by a thin House—Lord Palmerston observed that the motion had been advocated entirely on grounds of personal convenience . Not public advantage was shown to accrue from carrying pn legislation in November instead of July . There were , on the contrary , many reasons—some of which the noble lord set forth in detail—for thinking summer on the whole preferable and more convenient . — Mr . Forster consented to withdraw the motion , but a division was nevertheless called , when there appeared , for the resolution , 48 ; against , 121—78 . queen ' s printer ' s patent . Mr . Baines moved for a selcot committee to inquire into the nature , and extent of the patent now held by the Queen ' s printer , so iUr as it related to the right of printing the Bible ; and to report their opinipn as to the propriety of renewing that patent , The motion was seconded by Mr . F . Crossley . — Tho Home Secretary assented to the motion for a committee , but maintained that some provision should bo made to secure porfect correctness in tho published versions of tho scriptures . —After a few ¦ words from Mr . Black , Mr . Duni-oi » , and Mr . HaptfiBLD , tho motion was agreed to . MINISTBRS OF TII 13 OBOWN . Mr . V . Scully moved for a return , in chronological order , of all ministers of the Crown appointed since the Act of Union in 1800 , with tho dates of their respective acceptances of , nnd retirements from office ; distinguishing cabinet ministers from those not in the cabinet i and elmlliar return of all porsons appointed to tho office of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland , Chief Secretary fop Ireland , and Lord High Chancellor of Ireland , during tho like period . The chief
After some further discussion , Mr . , consented to proceed no further with the bill after the second reading , and wait until next session for the Government measure . Upon a division the amendment was negatived by 162 to 108 , and the bill was read a second time . .
WEIGHTS AND MEASURES . Mr . Joitn Locke , in moving the second reading of the 'Weights and Measures Bill , . which was almost precisely similar , he said , to that introduced in the last Parliament , stated the reasons which had induced him to bring the measure forward , and pointed out its different objects , which were dissimilar and might be dissociated . After much debate , the bill was read a second time , with the understanding that the first clause , providing that corn should be uniformly sold by measure , and the lmimperial measure only , would be withdrawn in the
committee . DIPLOMATIC PENSIONS . This bill , which removes the existing disabilities debarring the recipients of pensions for diplomatic services fxorn sitting in the House of Commons , was read a second time on the motion of Mr . M . Milnes . Mr . Wilson said that , looking to the origin of the exclusion , which was a constitutional jealousy on the part of the House of Commons , if the House chose to divest itself of that , jealousy in this case , the Government had no objection to the measure . ^—Several members spoke in favour of the bill , which ¦ wa s read a second time . . Mr . Alcock moved the second reading of the Church Kates Commutation Bill , but afterwards withdrew his motion . . .
The Metropolis Carriage Ways Bill was withdrawn . The Imprisonment for Small Debts Bill was read a second time . CRIMINAL . PROCEDURE . Mr . Whiteside , in moving the second reading of the Criminal Procedure Bill , defended that part of the measure which did away with the forfeiture of goods and corruption of blood of criminals . He adverted to another bill—the Public Justice Offences Bill and justified the abolition of the punishment meditated
of death in cases were there was no pre design to take away life . —The Attorney-General said it would be his duty and that of the Solicitor-General , with the . sanction of the Government , to bring the statute law of the country , and especially the criminal law , into a proper condition , and the result of their labours would be laid before Parliament at the beginning of the next year . He indicated the principles which , lie said , would guide them in dealing with the criminal law . —Mr . Whiteside withdrew his bills . The House adjourned at ten minutes to six o ' clock . Thursday , July 21 . DIVORCE COURT BILL . In the House of Lords yesterday , the Lord Chancellor moved the second reading of the Divorce Court Bill . After adverting to the inconveniences which had been found to arise from the deficiency of judicial power in the new Court of Probate and Divorce , he explained the remedy proposed in the present bill , which chiefly consisted in a provision rendering the services of any judge of . the superior courts available for the decision of divorce cases . —Lord Chelmsford ' and some other peers having spoken , the bill was read a second time . The Attorneys' and Solicitors' Bill and the Public HealtR Bill were also read a second time . Their lordships adjourned at half-past seven .
object of his , as explained by . member , was to ascertain how many Irishmen and Roman Catholics had become cabinet ministers during the last sixty years . —The motion was negatived without a division . ¦ ' -, 1 Mr . M'Mahon moved for leave to bring in a Dill to amend the laws relating to admission of barristers and solicitors to practise in Ireland . —Af ter some discussion the House divided—Ayes , 179 ; noes , 123 —56 . Leave was then given to bring in the bill . Leave was given to Sir C . Lewis to bring in a bill to extend the power of the Conservators of the River Thames ; and to Mr . Whiteside for a bill to amend the Medical Acts . PACKET AND TELEGRAPHIC CONTRACTS . Mr . Bouverie called attention to a petition from
Sir W . Russell , and moved that the select on packet and telegraphic contracts should be instructed not to inquire into the contract for the conveyance of mails between Dover and Calais , until the petition against the late return of members for Dover had been decided by the elections committee-Sir S . Northcote said it was the wish of his party that this question should be fully and fairly discussed , and that the truth should be brought out . The matter was within the scope of the inquiry of the seleet committee , and he could not understand how it could prej udice Sir W . Russell , whereas the election committee would not , probably , sit this 3 'ear . Mr . Bouverie had objected to the constitution of the committee , but the time to make this objection was when the committee was nominated ; He gave a copious explanation , of the circumstances
attending the Dover contract and its extension , assuring the House that the matter was conducted , so far as he was concerned , solely upon public principles . If , he added , the House should be of opinion that the course proposed , by Mr . Bouverie was expedient , he should not object to the motion . —Mr . Cowter supported the motion , which was opposed energetically by Mr . Whiteside . —Mr . Henley said it had not been shown how Sir W . Russell could be prejudiced by the matter being inquired into by the select committee . —The Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed that the petition of Sir W . Russell should be referred to the select committee on contracts . After some remarks from Sir F . Baring , Mr . Disraeli , and Lord Palmerston , and a brief reply from Mr . BotrvERiE , the House divided—For the motion , 61 . Against ;
223—. The House adjourned at five minutes past wo o ' clock . Wednesday , July 20 . At the mid-day sitting of the House of Commons Lord Prbby took the oaths and his seat on the reelection for TVicklow county , which he had vacated by taking office under the new government . EDINBURGH , &C . ANNUITY TAX ABOLITION . Mr . Black in moving that this bill be read a second time , urged the oppressive nature of this tax , not only from its inherent injustice , which made it a grievance , but when compared with Church-rates in England and Minister ' s money in Ireland . ~ Mr .
Blackburn objected to the bill that it disendowed the Established Church in the city of Edinburgh , and the principle would apply to all Scotland as well as tf > England . He desired , therefore , to know the intention of the Government regarding the measure . — Sir G > Lewis said he had no hesitation in giving his assent to the principle embodied in the bill ; but , in voting for the second reading , he assented simply to the abolition of the tax in its present form , which principle , ho observed , had been more than once affirmed by . tho House . The practical arrangements necossar 3 to the carrying out of the measure would , he hoped , be devised during tho reqesa , so as to justify , the legislature in
In the House of Commons , Mr . Ker Sbymer inquired whether it was the intention . of Government to adopt so much of the site of Smithnclumarket a $ , reverts to the Crown for the enjoyment and recreation of the public—The Home Secretary replied that a plan had been suggested by the Corporation of the City of London by which a considerable proportion of tho site in question would do rendered available for the public enjoyment ana
giving full effect to the proposition next session . — Lord Elciio considered the principle of the bill so obnoxibus and so dangerous— sweeping away the foundation of the Established Church—that although anxious for a compromise , he felt bound to vote against tho second reading , and ho inoved to defer it for three months . — -This amendment was seconded by Mr . W . Miller . — Tho second reading of the Bill was advocated by Sir T . E . CowanROOKE and Mr . Caird , and opposed by Mr . 0 . Bruce—The Lon » Advocate observed that lie hud not heard from the onnonents of the bill anything that would facilitate
recreation . THE BUDGET . On the order fpr going injto a Committee of Ways and Moans , Mr . Disraeli took occasion to entor upon a review of the financial operations of tho late Government , tho difficulties tho ^ o ^ rations had had to encounter , and ^ ir vrohablQTQ $ uh , had tho arrangements which had met with th ° concurrence of tho House not bow disturbed by unforeseen political occurrences , which ^ / eft aiserious dofloioncy in the rovomie , That this deficiency should bo mot by levying new taxes instead of borrowing money , he altogether agreed , and was also not prepared to propose any better source of fresh incomo than that suggested by Mr . Gladatonq—namely an increase of tho income tax . Ho proceeded , however , to criticise some of tho details of , the budgetary scheme , censuring tho proposed reduction of the malt credit * , and contending that methods could have
tho settlement of this question , which all admitted ought to bo sottled . Ho was no advocate of the voluntary principle , and no enemy of a Church establishment ; and he denied that tho bill contained one word that would justify tho argument of Lord Elcho , that it attacked tho foundation of tho Established Church . Tho real question was whothor the bill proposed an adequate substitute for tho tax . This was matter for the committee , and ho thought tho bill should bo read n second time . — Mr . Nbwdkgate insisted that tho principle of tho Bill was that of an unconditional abolition of tho neans of maintaining tho Established Church . —
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Black motion the hon No . 487- Svl * 23 , 1859 . 1 THE LEADER . 857
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Leader (1850-1860), July 23, 1859, page 857, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2304/page/5/
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