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094: THE LEABEB. fN o. 468, March 12,185...
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094: The Leabeb. Fn O. 468, March 12,185...
094 : THE LEABEB . fN o . 468 , March 12 , 1859 ,
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Imperial Parliament. Monday, March T. . ...
IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT . Monday , March T . . ¦ ' is the House of Lokds , Lord Wodehoitse , gave notice of his intention to move the second reading of : ihe Marriage Law Amendment Bill on the 22 nd inst .
VACCINATION . Lord GnANviiXE asked Lord Salisbury whether any -regulations had been issued by the Privy Coiin--cfl . with respect to vaccination under the Act passed last session . —The Marquis of Salisbuky replied that the attention of the Government had been directed to the subject , and that the officers of the Privy Council were in communication with the registrars throughout the country . Lord Colchester , in reply to the Marquis of Clanricarde , stated that arrangements have been made for the despatch of mails to Ireland twice every day , and for their arrival at Dublin in eleVen hours . Their lordships adjourned at half-past six . " In the Hoijse of Commons , Mr . Spooner . gave aiotice , for Monday , the . 21 st , of his annual motion ¦ xesjpecting the Maynooth grant .
Mr . I ) uncombe announced that if the Reform Bill ieaehed the stage of committee , he should move amendments by which the . 601 . required as .: investment in the savings bank by way of qualification , should be reduced to 40 / ., and the privilege of the iranchise granted to the possessors of that amount lodged in any benefit society ; that the lodger franchise should be reduced to a . minimum of 4 s . a week jTental , or 10 / . per annum instead of 20 t . . ;¦¦ and the payment of rates and taxes should not be exacted * om the elector before he is allowed to record his
-rote . THE INDIAX LOAN BILL . Xbrd Stanley having moved the second reading of the Indian Loan Bill , Sir G . Lewis said he was . not one of those who placed much reliance upon the Jhdian revenue , or . upon the national wealth to be derived from India . But as we had destroyed the native ; states , and entered into engagements with with that country , it was incumbent upon us , to « arry on its government . When the form of that government was altered last year , and a-worn-out constitution was put an end to , although the change was a wholesome one , he cautioned the House against supposing that it implied any alteration in the
finan-_ cial management of India , or imposed any additional obligation upon the Imperial Exchequer , the severance of India from the Imperial Exchequer being as entire in future as before the bill of last year . After reviewing the enormous military expenditure in India— -the great incubus of Indian finance— 'and the means of reducing it ' by pur paying a part of that expenditure , he observed that if we were to lend assistance to India , no means could be more objectionable than , that of guaranteeing an Indian loan . [ What he wished to impress upon the Government was , to take the earnest means of endeavouring to Teduce the force of the native army , arid to rely upon a system of police , to be substituted as for as
possible for a native army . It was the duty ; of JParlianient to enforce a good financial adminstration an India , and compel the adoption of measures that ¦ would offcJr a certain prospect of the revenue of that cpun , try being sufficient to meets its expenditure . — 3 iy « Bright could see little difference between the ^ doctrines of Sir G . C , Lewis and the proposals of SLprd Stanley . The finances of a country are a good test of jits condition and of its Government , and , judjge d by that tost , our Indian Government must 3 bQ visited with emphatic condemnation . The debt is 80 , 000 , 000 / ., the expenditure is increasing , and the revenue is diminishing and precarious . It is not safe to console ourselves with the reflection that this
debt only amounts to three years' revenue , or that it is only a tenth of that of England . There is so 'little power of production in India compared with that of England , that the Government is unable to jflnd a now source of revenue . If the Chjneso Go-. vornmont , now that we have compelled thorn to legalise the use of opium , should undertake its homo . cultivation , three or fbur millions more pf our Indian . revenue will disappear . The homo Government has ino power to control tho expenditure in India . The iclianKO of Government is one only in name , not in
TJrmciplo . Lord Stanloy , honest and enlightened as wj is , can do nothing 1 against tho fifteen instruments mt the old system of injustice by whioh he ia eurvounded 5 and his instructions aro notoriously disregarded in India . Tho native Governments had no debts , and very seldom a deficit . On tho contrary , * ho ftUnoss of' / thoiv exoljioquors has heen among ? ouv sternutations to annox tHelr , states ; but after solving m 31 wo can , and raising all wo can by taxation , our broken flvlth and shattered or cell t compel wb to borrow in the money markots of England to carry on the Government of India . What ,
suggestion consistently with justice to other branches , of the service and the country . '¦ ¦' ¦ ' ¦ ' SUPPLY ; . General Peel moved a vote of 1 , 050 , 000 ? ., to make good the deficiency of certain Army grants for the year 1857-58 , explaining the reasons of this supplementary vote ; that it was a matter of account , and that it did not necessitate any actual payment . —The vote was agreed to . '¦ : . ¦ ¦ . The House proceeded with the votes bclonging Jo the Army estimates , and adjourned at Wenty minutes past twelve . Tuesday , March 8 .
TIIK CASE OF THE CHARLES ET CrKORCES . In the House of Lords the debate on this matter was introduced by Lord ^ VoDEHOLSE , who moved for additional papers relating to the Charles at Georges seizure . He complained of the incompleteness of the papers that had been presented , and proceeded to argue that the conduct of our Government -wascensurable because it had not stood to our treaties with Portugal , but had played into the hands ' of France . —Lord Mauiesburv replied , that ' ivlic-n first ; introduced to the notice of the Government the case was so full of contradictions that it was impossible to decide whether Portugal was entirely right , and could justify the measures she had talccn . The
French Government met the Portugese complaints with counter-statements , so that her Majesty's Government had no data-on which to arrive at a decision as to which of the parties was in the right . He explained the steps he had taken and the correspondence he had entered into with Lord Cowley on the subject , and repudiated the" charge ' of delay and negligence brought against him . by Lord Wodehou . se . - ' The principle laid down by the French Government , that a . vessel ' . with a . French agent on a board who was responsible to liis Government is no longer to be treated as a private shi p * was in accordance with international law , and he insisted that if . such , a vessel violated any municipal law it was not a case for the ordinary
tribunals , but for diplomacy . , In eonseauciice of Lord Cowley ' s representations , the Trench ( Government gave a . positive assurance that an arrangement would be come to by which the mediation . of a friendly power would be allowed . If tlie French Government recoiled from their assiu'ance , that was not a reason for blaming her Majesty ' s ' . Government . The course he had pursued , ' he Was sure , had saved the country and Europefrom the most serious consequences . — Lord GraxVim-k said . Ministers should have shown more . activity and judgment—Lord KixgsdOwn defended the Government . —Lord Grey thought the Government ought to have presented a formal note to the Trench Government , statiiio- that there were serious grounds for . thinking
that France might not be entirely in the right . M > ' man had a greater horror of war than himself , but he did not think that the best way of securing peace was to abandon an ally for too iiurhiully following the advice we gave lior . r iho conduct of the Government in this matter hud sensibly lowered this country in the opinion of huropc .-r-LordDEitm- said the mover of the question ought to have called on Parliament to pronounce 11 . vcrUict against the Government , if he thought the course pursued had lowered its character in liiiropo . no objected strongly to the view of the question time had been -adopted by the country , tlmf we Una incited Portugal to suppress the slave trade , and Mmi deserted her , yrhen she had exerted hursult to lollop our coimsolB . That was not the questwn . -l ic tiro
then ; was to be done ? He suggested the reduction of the salaries of the Civil Service of India , arid either the employment of a much . larger number of Europeans in certain departments , or the giving much better salaries to a superior class of native officials . Moreover , with a better government in India , a small military force would suffice .- He urged the reversal of tlie present system of policy in India ; the establishment of something like municipal institutions there , and the admission into our councils and the incorporation with the Government of the best and most intelligent of the natives of India . He insisted that nothing like a change had taken place in the administration of
India since the bill of last year ; that the change was only ia name ; it was scarcely one of form , and none of principle . He was convinced that the course we had pursued had led ,, by ' -a logical and necessary process , to the position in . which , we now found ourselves , and that unless that system was reversed , we might have another great revolt , Avith consequences most disastrous to this country . —Mr . Ayrton did not take a disheartening view of the Indian finances , and assigned reasons for believing that when the means of communication were complete , in a few years , there would be such an increase in the land revenues as would render it quite equal to the charge ; He recommended the Government to borrow money
in this country at 3 £ per cent , and to lend it to India at a rate of interest insuring the repayment of the principal in fifteen or twenty years . He suggested various reforms in the details of the Indian Government . —Mr . Ewart differed from Mr . Bright in respect to the financial prospects of India ; lie expected from the improvement of the means of intercommunication , a great development of the resources of that country . —Mr . Wilson had not only no appre-. hensipns as to the financial prospects of India , but he had the greatest hope of them . Almost every increase of the Indian debt had arisen from wars , and frbrh expenditure upon public works which would be reproductive . If the increased interest upon the Indian debt were takenat 2 , 600 , 000 / ., and the expenditure upon public works at 1 , 000 , 000 / ., and there
should be a deficiency of 3 , 000 , 000 / ., he should not despair of seeing in the next three of four years such an increase of the revenue from existing sources , as would enable the Government of India to bear this charge . He disputed some of the conclusions of Mr . Bright regarding the land revenue of India ; he condemned the policy of alienating in perpetuity waste of jungle lands , as repeating the error committed by Lord Cornwallis in his Permanent Settlement ; and he justified the views , of the late and former Governments in relation to railways in . India and . to certain branches of the Indian revenue . He did not anticipate a fulling ofFin the revenue derived from either salt or opium .. . He disapproved an Imperial . guarantee of an Indian loan ; he believed that the future rule of England over India was more secure than ever , and did
not fear for the resources of the latter country . — Lord Staxi-ey , in reply , maintained that the finari-r eial prospects of India were , on the whole , not disco uraging . Though . " the debt had increased from time to time , the revenue had expanded in a still lai'ger measure , and this process he expectetl to see renewed , and : the additional liability created by the new loan extinguished by a fresh augmentation in the revenue of the country , when tranquillity was restored and the reforms which the Government were maturing had been brought into operation . On the question of responsibility , he fully admitted the principle that the creditors of India had no claim whatever upon the English l'evenue . Those
question was , whether tlie Gevcnnmnt , umioi circumstances , had done their duty to the count > . He denied that any violation ol our tn-n ics v-nn Portugal had occurred , a circumstance whioli d been allowed by tho Portuguese 1 ' i'imo Minister mmself . Tho reason why we had not sooner into tcici wus , that the matter in dispute did not touch tJiw country , as it was a difference between two imle . pondout countries , neither of whom as cod loi 0 r intorforcnoo j and bocauso they had not iimiiHiie . , | J with information 011 which to form « . 1 H " ' ¦ , , „ good offices of tho Government hud boon ^ ' ^ > Portugal immediately that rIio Imd nppljod | \ I " j Ho rejected the course of action m-escribojl 0 ; Grey , of romonstratingwith the JroncU i' " boforo they wore convinced that X ™ " ™ . ?* ™ in tho wrong . Ho repudiated the no i < n 1 m Iiad submitted to im insult or luul M f »
creditors hftd , however , a first charge on the local revenue , and if the whole Indian income proved Insufficient both to pay interest on the debt and defray the expense of defence and administration , a question' might in that case arise as to the source whence funds should \> q supplied to carry on the government pf that pountry . — Sir E . PiajutY observed that all the best authorities now agreed that , under present circumstances and present prospects , the finances of India presented an alarming aspect . Was India able to bear the
burdens cast upon her ? If not , and if this country would bo ultimately responsible , it would bo wisor and more economical to raise the monoy at onco upon the credit of England ,- —Mr . C . liiwcu romlndod tho Houso that the intimato connoxion of Indian and English flnamce had been pointed out by the Into Sir R . Peel in 1842 . As tho Legislature had now assumed complote control over tho affairs of India , i . t was idle to attempt to repudiate its liabilUloa . —Tho bill was then read a second time , and © rdorcd to bo committed . '
wo , in tho estimation of Europe , Ho tlio tf < J course adopted by her Majesty ' s J ^ nuu ? J had convinced Franco of tho unsoundiicss < t no system of fi-eo immigration , nnd that tills commy had come forth with honour to itself i ^ iJ " g to tho interests of Europe , nnd , unlosfl ^« ' J sliould wndomn tho eojuluot of tho Govornmw t ,, " 0 should ho content with tho course I > vu ;> 3 uetl . --: A 101 « few words ft-om Lords On an wonm , Whw 1 ;> n a .., and St . QBttMASs , Lord Wopkhoiw ; witfulit-V » " « m Their lordBhlps atljournod nt n qwn-tor vMt m o ' clodc .
PAY OV SUHAT . TKUKe . Colonel I ?« I 5158 tijn oaljtod attention to the pay of tho subalterns of tho army , whioh , ho said , oxnosod young mon to the liability of being involved In dobt . —After some remarks by Sir A . Acinkw , Sir WV Conn'iNOTOif , and Mr ; W . Wim . tams , Gono . rul Pkhi , said ho should bo glad it' ho could give oil ' eot to tho
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Leader (1850-1860), March 12, 1859, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_12031859/page/4/
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