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¦ " ¦ ; - - ' t ¦ " . .. No , 487 . Jm 23 , lfifiQ / 1 THE LEADER . 857
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the country , Which were already in a state of considerable derangement , could not bear the charge , and that to place arms in the hands of so great a number of natives involved serious risk of a repetition of troubles similar to those from which we had just emerged . — Lord Stanley observed that it was impossible for any man to * lay down distinctly and precisely what was the amount of the force that -would be required in India . The question did not admit of a positive answer . He noticed the discordant opinions upon ,
l ^ ^^^^ Ml ^ W ^^^^^^^^^^^^^™*^^^*^^ THE INDIAN ARBIT- . . In the evening Mr . Buxton called attention to that portionof the report of the . commissioners on the organisation of the Cndian army , which refers to the amount of force to be maintained in ""; ure . The commissioners , he observed , had recommended as a minimum for the maintenance of a standing army in India one comprising 80 , 000 Europeans , and 320 , 000 natives . He considered this force much too large and expensivecontending that the finances oi
this point entertained by various examined by the commissioners , observing that Sir John Lawrence thought that there should be a large preponderance of European force . — Sir E . Perry considered that the commission had been illconstituted , and that the report was unsatisfactory . Instead of augmenting our army in India , he said , it should be diminished ; which could be done by governing India in co-operation with the natives advocated the
and engaging their sympathies . He introduction of the irregular system into our military establishment in India , the effect of which would be very materially to reduce the expenditure .- ^—After some remarks by . Colonel Syk . , Mr . Smollett , Mr . Kinnaird , Mr . Hadfield , and Mr . Vansittart , Mr . Bright observed that this debate involved a question of so much importance that even Reform or home finances could not match it , and he warned Sir C . Wood to lose no time in asking the
object of Ms motion , as explained by the hon , member , was to ascertain how many Irishmen ; Roman . Catholics had become cabinet ministers during the last sixty years . —The motion was negatived without a division . Mr . M'Mahon moved for leave to bring in a bill to amend the laws relating to admission of barristers and solicitors to practise in Ireland . —After some discussion the House divided—Ayes , 179 ; noes , 123 —56 . Leave was then given to bring in the bill . . Leave was given to Sir C . Lewis to bring in a bill to extend the power of the Conser-vators of the River Thames ; and to Mr . Whiteside for a bill to amend the Medical Acts . PACKET AND TELEGRAPHIC CONTRACTS . Mr . Bottverie called attention to a petition from Sir W . Russell , and moved that the select committee on packet and telegraphic contracts should be instructed not to inquire into the contract for the conveyance of mails between Dover and Calais , until the petition against the late return of members for Dover had been decided by the elections committee . — Sir S . Noethcote said it was the wish of his party that this question should be fully and fairly discussed , and that the truth should be brought out . The matter was within the scope of the inquiry of the seleet committee , and he could not understand how it could prejudice Sir W . Russell , whereas the
election committee woxild not , probably , sit this year . Mr . Bouverie had objected to . the constitution of the committee , but the time to make this objection was when the committee was nominated . He gave a cqpious explanation of the circumstances attending tlie Dover contract and its extension ^ assuring the House that the matter was conducted i so far as he was concerned , solely upon public principles . . If , he added ; the House should be of opinion that the course proposed by Mr . Bouverie Avas expedient , he should not object to the motion .
—Mr . Cowper supported the motion , wliich was opposed energetically by Mr . Whiteside . —Mr . Henley said it had not been shoAm how Sir W Russell could be prejudiced by . the matter being inquired into by the select committee . —The . Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed that the petition of Sir W . Russell should be referred to the select committee on contracts . After some remarks from Sir F . Baring , Mr . Disraeli , and Lord Palmerston , and a brief reply from Mr . Bouverie , the House divided—For the motion , 61 . Against ,
223—162 . The ITouse adjourned at fi \ 'e minutes past Aro o ' clock . . Wednesday , July 20 . At the mid-day sitting of the House of Commons Lord Proby took the oaths and his seat on the reelection ft > T Wicklow county , which he had vacated by taking office under the new government . EDINBURGH , & C . ANNUITY TAX ABOLITION . Mr . Black in moving that this bill be read a second time , urged the oppressive nature of this tax , not only from its inherent injustice , which made it a grievance , but Avhen compared Avith Church-rates in England and Minister ' s money in Ireland . —Mr .
BLAqKBURN objected to the bill that it disendoAved the Established Church in the city of Edinburgh , and the principle would apply to all Scotland as Aveil as to England . He desired , therefore , to know the intention of the Government regarding the measure . — Sir G . Leaves said ho had no hesitation in giving his assent to the principle embodied in the bill ; but , in voting for the second reading , he assented simply to the abolition of the tax in its present form , which principle , he observed , had been more than onco affirmed by the House . The practical arrangements necessary to the carrying out of the measure ' would , he hoped , bo devised during the recess , so aa to justify the legislature in
giving full eflbct to the proposition next session . — Lord Ei-cuo considered the principle of the bill so obnoxious and so dangerous—sweeping away th 6 foundation of tho Established Church—that although anxious for a compr 6 miso , ho felt , bound to . vote against the second reading , and ho moved to defer it for three months . —This amendment Avas seconded by Mr . "W . Miller .- —The second reading of the Bill Avas advocated by Sir T . E . Colkurooice and Mr . Caviv , and opposed by Mr . C . Bruce . —Tho Loud Advocates obsorved that lie had not hoard from the opponents of tho bill anything that would facilitate Avhioli nil admitted
the settlement of this question , ought to bo settled . Ho was no advocate of tho voluntary principle , nnd no enemy of a Church establishment ; and ho denied that the bill contained ono word that would justify tho argument of Lord J ? loho , that it attacked tho foundation of tho Established Church . Tho real question Avaa whether tho bill proposed an adequate substitute ) for trio tax . This Avas matter for tho committee , and he thought tho bill should bo read a eocond time . — Mr . NjnvDKOATB insisted that tho principle of tho Bill Av . as that of nn' unconditional abolition of the means of maintaining the Established Church .-- '
This bill , which remoA'es the existing disabilities debarring the recipients of pensions for diplomatic services from sitting in the House of Commons , was read a second time on the motion of Mr . M . Milnes , Mr . Wilson said that , looking to the origin of the exclusion , which was a constitutional jealousy on the part of the House of Commons , if the House chose to divest itself of that jealousy in this case , the Government had no objection to the measure . — Several members spoke in faA'Our Of the bill , Avhich Avas read a second time . Mr . Alcock moved the second reading of the Church Rates Commutation Bill , but afterwards withdrew his motion . The Metropolis Carriage Ways Bill was Avithdrii'VPn ¦ ¦ The Imprisonment for Small Debts Bill Avas read
a second time . CRIMINAL PROCEDURE . Mr . Whiteside , in moving the second reading of the Criminal Procedure Bill , defended that part of the measure which did away with the forfeiture of goods and corruption of blood of criminals . He adverted to another bill—the Public Justice Offences Bill—and justified the abolition of the punishment of death in cases were there Avas no premeditated
design to take away life . —The Attorxey-General said it would be his duty and that of the Solicitor-General , Avith the sanction of the Government , to bring the statute law of the cpuntry , and especially the criminal law , into a proper condition , and the result of their labours would be laid before Parliament at the beginning of the next year . He indicated the principles Avhich , he said , * would guide them in dealing with the criminal law . —Mr . Whiteside withdrew his bills . The House adjourned at ten minutes to six o ' clock . , Thursday , July 21 . DIVORCE COURT BILL . In the House of Lords yesterday , the Lord Chancellor moved the second reading of the Divorce Court BilL After adverting to the inconveniences whir . li had been found to arise from the deficiency of judicial power in the new Court of Probate and Divorce , he explained the remedy proposed in the present bill , Avliich chiefly consisted in a provision rendering the services of any judge of the superior courts available for the decision of divorce cases . —Lord Ciielmsford ' and somo other peers having spoken , the bill Avas road a second The Attorneys' and Solicitors' Bill and the Public Health Bill were also read a second time . Thoir lordships adjourned at half-past seven .
In the House of Commons , Mr . Ker Seymer inquired Avhether it was the intention of Govern- * ment to adopt so much of the sito or Smithneldraarket as reverts to the Crown for the enjoyment and recreation of the public— -The Home Seohetary replied that a plan had been suggested by tho Corporation of the City of London by which a considerable proportion of tho site in question would ne rendered available for the public enjoyment and
recreation , THE BUDGET . On tho order for going into a Committee of YVays and Means , Mr . Diskabli took occasion to entor upon a review of tho financial operations of tho ^ srsriKsas ss ^ ysr & i'ss s ? $ ^ V « E m ^ % rsxs £ ^&\&? sp should bo mot by levying new taxes instead of borrowing money , ho altogether agreed , and was also notiSfed t " propose any better source of frosU . inromeXnthAt suggested by Mr . Gladstono-narooly an increase of tho income tax . Ho proceeded , however , to criticise some of tho details of tho budgetary scheme , oonsuringtjie proposed rod action of the malt credits , and contending that ) methods could have
After some further discussion , Mr . Black consented to proceed no further with the bill after the second reading , and Avait until next session for the Government measure . Upon a division the amendment was negatived by 162 to 108 , and the bill was read a second time . . AVEIGHTS AND MEASURES . Mr . John Locke , in moving the second reading of the Weights and Measures Bill , which was almost precisely similar , he said , to that introduced in the last Parliament , stated the reasons which had induced him to bring the measure forward , and pointed out its different objects , Avhich were dissimilar and might be dissociated . After much debate , the bill Avas read a second time , Avith the understanding that the first clause , providing that corn should be uniformly sold by measure , and the imimperial measure only , would be AvithdraAvn in the committee . DIPLOMATIC PENSIONS .
opinion of the House of Commons upon the subject in the most frank manner . —Sir C . Wood , referring to the inquiries whicli had been urged respecting the production of the Indian budget , stated that certain financial accounts would , he believed , be prepared by Thursday next , shortly after Avhich day he Avouldfix a date for the consideration of Indian affairs . With regard to the military question he Avas unable as yet to arrive at any determination as to the number either of Europeans or natives , of Avhich the army in that country should be composed . Two or three years must , he believed , still elapse before it would be safe to reduce the Indian establishment to its normal and permanent proportions . SESSIONS OF PARLIAMENT .
Mr . C . Forster moved an address to her Majesty representing the inconvenience of protracting the session of Parliament during the summer months , and praying that her Majesty would be pleased to provide a remedy for such inconvenience by assembling Parliament for the despatch of business before Christmas . He dwelt upon the evils resulting from a summer sitting ,, and anticipated objections to his proposal for a different arrangement . — -The motion Avas seconded bj * Mr . Eavaut , and opposed by Mr . Bentinck . —Mr . A . Smith , Mr . Liddell , Lord Claud Hamilton , and othor members having spoken , Lord J . Russell submitted that the question Avas
too serious , as involving the transaction of the Avhole legislation and business of thocountry , tobe settled by a mere motion and by a thin House . —Lord Palmerston observed that the motion had been adA'ocated entirely on grounds of personal convenience . No public advantage was shown to accrue from carrying on legislation in November instead of July . There Avere , on the contrary , many reasons—some of which the noble lord set forth , in detail—for thinking summer on the whole preferable and more convenient . — Mr . FonsTER consented to withdraw the motion , but a division was * nevertheless called , Avhen thore appeared , for tho resolution , 48 ; against , 121—73 .
queen ' s r-niKTisn ' s patent . Mr , Baines moved for a select committee to inquire into the nature and extent of the patent now held by tho' Queen ' s printer , so far as it related to the right of printing tho Bible ; and to report their opinion as to tho propriety of renoAving that patent . The motion Avas seconded by Mr . F . Cuossley , — The Homk Skoretary assented to tho motion for a committee , but maintained thab somo provision should bo made to secure perfect correctness in tho published versions of the scriptures . —After a fow words from Mr . Black , Mr . Dunloi 1 , and Mr . Hadfiuia ) , the motion Avas agreed to .
MINISTERS Or TUB CKOAVN . Mr . Y . Scully moved for a return , in chronological order , of all ministers of the CroAvn appointed since the Act of Union in 1800 , with tho dates of their respective acceptances of , nnd yetiromonts from office ; cliBtinguiahing cabinet ministers from those not in tho cabinet \ and eimUlar return of all porsons appointed to tho office of Loru Lieutenant of Ireland , Chief Secretary fpr Ireland , and Lord High Chancellor of Ireland , during tho like period . Tho chief
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Leader (1850-1860), July 23, 1859, page 5, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_23071859/page/5/
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