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The debate continued for goipe time , but \? as cut shorf at four o ' clock , that hieing the hour af which the Houseadjourns on Tuesdays . THE CONVENT QUESTION . This most debateable topic has recurred . The clock precluded the settlement of the question on the 23 rd of June . The second reading of Mr . Chamber ' s bill was negatived , but the decision on Mr . Phinn's amendment for the appointment of a committee was adjourned . It came on for decision on Wednesday ( morning sitting ) , and led to a discussion which occupied the greater part of the day . The only speakers on the Roman Catholic side were Irish members . Mr . John Ball commenced with a speech of considerable extent . He pointed out in detail the good works
accomplished by those institutions ; exemplified " infidel France" and Voltaire in favour of them ; ridiculed the zeal of Protestant denunciators , and imputed mercenary niotives vfco the prime movers of Protestant agitations ; r and opposed Mr , Phinn ' s motion for a committee as unnecessary , expensive , and most dangerous . Mr . Edward Bail , though directly opposed to the Roman-catholic religion , would not sanction any inquiry into these establishments in the absence of any facts showing its necessity . He had himself inspected several convents , and he found there hundreds who had been saved from -vice , and who were getting a good education . - ; ¦
In reply to these eulogiums Mr . Whit-ESIde quoted several cases in which property had'been surreptitiously obtained bj r the influence over the minds of nuns by their conventual superiors . This very m 6 nth the Court of Delegates in Dublin , has set aside a deed because it had been procured by undue influence exercised by a priest . Passing from the particular case of convents to the general actions of the Catholic clergy , he instanced the ¦ evidence of Mr . Berwick , President of Queen ' s College , Galway , and the recent resolution of the National IBoard , to show that the conduct of the ultramontane party in the Church of Rome has been hostile to . the advancement of liberty and of true knowledge .
Mr . Dbtjmmoni ) made a striking and characteristic speech against the " secnla * power assumed , never abandoned , and never mitigated , " T > y the Church of Rome . " As a church , Rome has borne faithful witneBs to its ecclesiastical institutions and ordinances ; and contrasting it with the Church of England , which lias gradually given'up many of these things , " I would 'have-been glad to see it extended and strengthened . ' * But 'the convents have been used by the priests throughout Europe as prisons , and the character of the
Roman-« atholic policy is subve&ive o £ morality : — "It is impossible for a priest to be loyal to a Protestant sovereign . I have petitioned over and over again against the JEtoman-catholic Relief Bill , and I have been called a $ » gofc ; but I have lived to see the truth of the prophecies of the Duke of Wellington ; for it is now come to this , that it is seen , not from Protestant charges , but from the acts of the priests themselves , that it ia utterly impossible for the slaves of a priesthood to be sharers with Protestant freemen in the conduct of constitutional government . "
Mr . Edmund Bubke Roche illustrated the loyalty of the Roman-catholic priests by showing that the Irish rebellion of 1848 had been put down by the Roman-• catholic priests . Sir John Tyrrell mentioned , as a charge against convents , that Lady Smith , wife of Sir Frederick Smith , had been refused permission to insspect the convent of New Hall , in Essex , Mr . Fitzgerald defended the Cathofcc clergy from the charge ¦ of obtaining from dying persons property for the ( Church . The debate , again cut short by the approach of six ( o ' clock , was adjourned to the 10 th of August .
THE TAX ON ATTORNEYS . The Parliamentary pleadings for the remission of the duties on the Certificates of Attorneys nnd Solicitors were resumed , on Wednesday , by Lord Robert GeoSTmjnqk , who moved the second reading of tho Bill for the repeal of tho tax . Ho offered , however , not to go into Committee if Mr . Gladstone would say that the tax was kept on only for revenue purposes ; and alluded to a rumoured compact with tho members for
Manchester by which tho advertisement duty was to be abandoned and tho tax on attorneys retained . Mr . MunnotraTT ( an attorney ) rose and sneered at Lord Robert ' s udvoc »« y of tho profession as insincere , tho present movement being ill-dined . " All tho friends of . tho attorneys arc on circuit . " Mr . ¦ Gladstone , in a speech of some humour , combated tho motion ; alluding to tho " chivalroun tenacity" with which Lord Robert Grosvcnor had takon up tho cause of " that unfortunate
body , " " I am inclined to think that no more illustrious example ¦ o f his philanthropy will bo quoted in After-times than tho manner in which ho has hold out the right hand of succour and support to a meritorious dam , no entirely without organi * dion , not represented in this House-- ( Laughtor ) —cut o ( F from tho ordinary uionns of communication with xnambcra of Parliftnjont —•( LaugUtcr ) --ttnd , laat of all , at
the present moment , having all their friends on circuit . ( Lbud laughter ^) ! ' L He then said : —" The Government cannot and will not be parties to a repeal of the annual certificate duty , and to setting actual members of the profession free from that tax which they have paid sixty years , and which every due of them was bred tip in tho expectation of paying . " Explaining that the deductions in the " expected revenue from licenses , and the increase in supplementary estimates , would seriously diminish his expected surplus , he pointed out that they were asked to abolish two dnties—that on advertisements and that on attorneys . Both amounted to 160 , 000 ? . ; if both were given- up , there would be a financial deficit next year . The House had shown a strong feeling and desire for the repeal of the advertisement duty —( Cheers ) —and if pressed for that repeal , the duty on attorneys ' certificates could not be repealed .
A brief discussion ensued , during which Colonel Sibthobp observed , by way of parenthesis , that of all the Chancellors of the Exchequer he had ever seen the present was by far the worst . Mr . Ewabt and Mr . Magtjibe announced their intention of voting against Lord Robert Grosvenor--that' is , for the repeal of the advertisement duty . The Bill was rejected by 186 to
102 . THE ADVERTISEMENT DUTY . The repeal of this duty was distinctly announced on Thursday . ' Mr . ' Gladstone-moved-that the report of the resolutions agreed to by the House on the 1 st ; July be received . He took the opportunity ^ of saying that he should act upon the intention which Government had formed , of deferring to what they believed to be the wish of the real majority of the House in reference to the advertisement duty . ( Cheers . ) It was not necessary for him to enter into the reasons which had led them to that conclusion , believing that the man who made an unnecessary speech at that period of the evening was an enemy to his country . ( Cheers and laughter . )
Mr . Bbi&ht wished to ask when the advertisement duty would cease ? It was important this should be known , and he had been applied to by' several newspaper proprietors on the subjeet ; Mr . Gladstone said it was certainly of great importance that proprietors of newspapers should be relieved from uncertainty on this point as soon as possible , and he was afraid that some had unfortunately been misled by arguing hastily that the practice which the
House pursued with respect to customs duties would apply to the duty in question , which was in fact entirely of a different character . He believed there was no precedent for making the remission of this duty follow immediately on the vote of that House . They should not lightly alter the established practice , but he saw jio reason why the bill in which those resolutions were to be inserted should not become law by the end of next week , or at least by the beginning of the following week .
Mr . Newdegate asked if the resolutions now before the House included the tax upon supplements ? Mr . Gladstone said , No . The extension of the area of newspapers was provided for by a clause in the Stamp duty ( No . 2 ) bill , which was postponed till after the other orders of the day . What he proposed in reference to that bill was to commit it , and to insert in it tho resolutions now brought up . THE SAVINGS-BANK BILL WITHDBAWN .
The bill regulating savings banks was withdrawn on Thursday ; and Mr . Gladstone , after giving tho amount of business before the House as tho reason , gave an outlined description of tho postponed bill . Soveral propositions on this subjeot had been made to the Government . One proposition was this—that n , Government guarantee should bo given to depositors , the security to bo taken by Government in return being tho appointment of auditors of tho savings bunks . This proposition Wfts objectionable If it is absolutely necessary that the guarantee of the State shall be given to depositors , tho State shall have an efficient control over tho receipts and payments of money—not the inero power of calling for an account at certain
intervals , to see what baa been received and paid , but n control over tho receipts and payments themselves . This was tho fundamental principle of the bill ; though tho Government would bo too happy to lcavo a door open to trustees becoming responsible if they thought fit . They had further introduced 'provisions to enable trustees who might object to unlimited rosponsir bility , but who wero willing to subject thomeolvca to limited responsibility , to jmako arrangements with tho Government to that oflcct ; to give tho Government tlieir own personal security to an extent which , though limited , might be sufficient to cover tho risk . They had therefore provided , with regard to existing banks , that they might givo tho guarantee of tho State in connoxion with that security . They did not
propose , however , to allow any new banks to be formed Upon that principle . Looking to the future , there is no doubt that the practical and operative part of the bill will be , that the granting of the guarantee will , in effect , give the Government control—hot over the entire management , but over the receipts and payments of the bank . Other matters of detail may be left for consideration next session . Some irregular discussion ensued—Sir Beivjamht Hall mentioning a metropolitan case , where the managers had 1 ^ per cen t for management . ' INXEBPEBBNCE O ? A PEER AT AN EJECTION . —In the city of Peterborough , Lord Fitzwilliam is landlord ^ of a larffe property ; 317 tenants of houses , buildings , and lands
Ugly XUXU Xv / JLLl' * KJX . * J *** . w » vw » --- --stituency number but 600 , his influence is naturally great . In the House , on Monday , Mr . Bright made a formal accusation against Lord Fitzwilliam , of having interfered with the freedom of election by intimidation , persuasion , treating , and offers of sums of money , at the last and at the previous election . Of these things 219 electors complain in a petition to the House j also that Lord Fitzwilliam had used his power as a landlord to intimidate tenants to vote for his nominees , and to punish tenants who had not voted as his agent had requested . Stating these facts not on his own authority , but on the authority oft the petitioners , Mr . Bright moved for a Select Committee to inquire into the allegations . The motion was seconded by Mr . Fitzwilliam , a relative of Lord Fitzwish to facili
william , on behalf of whom he expressed a - tate all inquiry . He then quoted several recent election facts to show that Lord Fitzwilliam had left the people of Peterborough free in their choice . Lord Johit Russell concurred , and the motion was carried , Qn Thursday , there arose the question , whether the inquiry could take place at present , as there is an election committee at present investigating matters connected -with the last election for Peterborough . It was admitted on all hands that the contemporaneous inquiry of two committees on the same subject was undesirable '; but Lord John Russell said that even that would be better than the postponement of the inquiry until next session . The motion for the immediate appointment was therefore agreed to . Dockyard Appointments . —Sir James Graham
corrected a report in the Morning Herald , relative to some late appointments in Chatham Dockyard , and to the alleged political partiality that influenced them . The Herald-stated that Baines , who had served a shorter time than Pattison , had been promoted in preference to Pattison , owing to his having voted for the Whig candidate at the , last election . Sir James showed that the report from the Captain Superintendent , and the " submission" from the Surveyor of the Navy , had , recommended Baines , that Baines had served lor twenty-nine years , while Pattison had served for only twelve ; that Pattison had disease of the heart , while , on the contrary , Baines has been a hard-working shipwright , and has been , preferred for harder work , greater age , better health , and longer service . ¦
^ . Public-houses in Scotland . — A bill tending to check intemperance in Scotland is being passed through the House of Lords . Its necessity is shown by the statistics of Scottish public-houses . Out of a population of 155 , 680 by the late census ( or perhaps 160 , 000 in the present day ) , 4-1 , 796 persons had visited public-houses in one day , and of this number 11 , 981 were women , 4631 wero children under fourteen years of age , and 3032 children under eight years of age . Tho new bill will abolish the system of allowing grocers to sell spirits , and will
place under tho control ot the polieo those Junctions now exercised by the Excise . Another provision has reference to the beer-licensing system . Under tho present law , a separate license cannot bo granted for the sale of beer , and this will bo provided for by tho bill . Lord Kinnaibd , referring to the Bill , said that if an inducement could be held out to the people of Scotland to drink beer , and if they could adopt such commercial regulations as would enable them to import light wines from France —( laughter ) —it would , to a great extent , put an end to tho intemperance which unhappily exists m Scotland . .
Sergeant Adams . —The businose of tho Middlesex Sessions having increased , a bill for tho increase of the salary of the assistant-judge ( Sergeant Adams ) was introduced by Government . On previous stages it was opposed by independent Liberal members , on tho ground that Sergeant Adams , b y his intemperate conduct on tho Bench , harf shown himself undeserving of any augmented salary . On Tuesday morning ( to which tho sitting of Monday evening had ox tended ) , between ono nnd two o'clock , tho bill camo on for its third reading . But led by Sir Dk Lacy Evanb , iifty-threo Radical members opposed tho bill , and defeated tho forty-two Ministerialists who supported it .
Compulsory Vaccination . —In all tho countries of Europo , except England and Franco , vaccination is com ' polled by law . In Pruwsia , Sweden , and Bavaria , tho compulsion in direct , by lino , in others it ia indirect : As a consoquonce , small-pox is more mortal in England than in any otjior part of Europo . Saxony , which , out of thirteen countries of Europe , nan tho highest rate of mortality fvoip , small-pox , has nlill but ono-half of tho mortality of England . In Groat Jtritain and Irolnnd tho number annually attacked ie 100 , 000 . Sir John Pakinoton haa brought in a bill to make vaccination compulsory in this country . Government Hupport tho mcasuro , and , on Wednesday , it was road a sccontLtimo .
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LETTERS FROM PARIS . [ From our own Oorrkspondbint . ] Letter LXXXII . Paris , Thursday Evening , July 21 , 18 C 3 . Mant good , easy people imagine that peace in now secured , and the Eastern question finally Bottled , and that
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Leader (1850-1860), July 23, 1853, page 701, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1996/page/5/
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