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of peace . Personal considerations too inuch swayed the decisions of both Houses of Parliament , and he was determined to remove those considerations . He was determined that this question should be argued on its merits , and he would do all he could to secure the peace of India . Therefore , he had tendered to her Majesty his resignation , and it had been accepted . " ( Cheers . * ) JEarl Grey submitted that they should not discuss the Proclamation of Lord Canning while they were in ignorance of the reasons which induced him to issue it . Mere bad been made - < of-Air . Vernon Smith ' s neglecting to transmit the note he had received than the matter deserved , because the Government was bound to conclude that aa explanation -would come in due time from Lord Canning .
The Earl of Derby altogether dissented from that opinion , and , alluding to Lord Ellenborough , said that , if his noble friend had committed any indiscretion , he had more than atoned for it by the manly course he had adopted . The Government had felt it to be their duty to censure Lord Canning's Proclamation , bat they thought the publication of the censure objectionable . However , Lord Ellenborough , as he bimself had stated , vras alone answerable for the publication . Ifothiug was more painful to him ( Lord Derby ) than to be suspected of sacrificing a colleague ; but he -was bound
not to be actuated by private feeling , but by the consideration of what was due to the country . Were Ministers to take upon themselves the defence of what they could not defend—of an act of which they were not in the slightest degree cognizant—or -were they to accept the self-sacrince of the noble Lord , who by bis generosity allowed his colleagues to have justice done them ? He felt it his duty to accept that act of self-sacrifice , though he separated from the noble Lord -with the deepest regret , and hoped he should have the "benefit : of his valuable and disinterested advice in dealing with the affairs of India .
Earl Granville expressed his concurrence in . a portion of the eulogy pronounced upon Lord Ellenborough , and then alluded to the answer given by Mr Baillie to the question addressed to him in the House of Commons . —The Earl of Derby remarked that Mr . Baillie had given the answer on his own responsibility . — Earl Granville said it was quite clear that Mr . Baillie must have had notice of the question , and he could have communicated with the noble Earl on the matter . —The subject then dropped .
LORD SHAFTESBURY S RESOLUTIONS . Lord Shaftesbury laid on the table the resolutions which he proposed to move on the following Friday . They ran thus : — " 1 st . That it appears from the papers laid upon the table of this House that a despatch has been addressed by the Secret Committee of the Court of Directors to the Governor-General of India , disapproving of a Proclamation which the Governor-General had informed the Court he intended to issue after the fall of Lucknow . 2 ndly . That it is known only from intelligence that has reached this country by the correspondence published in the newspapers that the intended Proclamation lias been issued , and with , an important modification , no official account of the proceeding having yet
been received ; that this House is , therefore , still without full information as to the ground upon "which Lord Canning lias acted , and his answer to the objections made to his intended Proclamation in the despatch of the Secret Committee cannot he received for several weeks . 3 rdly . That under these circumstances this House is unable to form a judgment on the Proclamation issued by Lord Canning , but thinks it ought to express its disapprobation of the premature publication by her Majesty ' s Ministers of the despatch addressed to the Governor-General , because this public condemnation of his conduct must tend to weaken the authority of the Governor-General , and to encourage those who arc now in arms against this country . " .
The Transfer of Land Bill was read a third time , and passed , by a majority of one , the numbers being — for , 13 ; against , 12 . Their Lordships adjourned at a quarter to eiglit o ' clock .
THE VOTE OF CICN 3 URE . In the House oir Commons , Mr . Cardwell ' s vote of censure on the Government , in connexion with the Ellenborough letter to Lord Canning , was postponed from Thursday to Friday , in consequence of Sir John Tuhxawny , who had a motion on the papei for the . iirstnamed night , not consenting to give way . ,
THE BENGAL ESTABLISHMENT . In answer to Mr . Vansittaut , Mr . H . Baillie said it was quite true that throe new regiments of Europeans were to bo raised for the East India Company ' s servico , and they were to be officered from the six native Sepoy rogimenta that bad been disbanded . The officers of Sepoy regiments were to bo tnken for each new regiment ; but the regiments to bo selected would bo left to the discretion of the Governor-Generul of India . EDUCATION ( iUKLANo ) . Keplying to Mr . Bagwkll , Lord Naas said it was not intended to legislate during the preaont session on the report of tho Endowed Schools ( Irelund ) Commission .
THIS OAQLIARI . In reply to Mr . Kinnaiiid , Mr . Seymour Fitzobkal » said that a definite amount of compensation lor
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the two English engineers , Watt and Park , to be demanded from the Neapolitan Government , had been indicated to Mr . Lyons ; but he declined to state any further particulars in relation to the affair . WESTMINSTER HALL . Lord John Manners , correcting an answer given by him on the previous evening , stated that a vote would be taken this year for . an ornamental doorway in "West-! minster Hall , in the place of the doorway by wltich the i public are now admitted to the building .
THE OATHS BILL . The adjourned debate , in connexion with the Lords ' Amendments on the Oaths Bill , on the motion that Baron Lionel Nathan de Rothschild be one of the members of the Committee , for consulting with the other House , was resumed by the Solicitor-Gener . a . l , who said that , in his opinion , there was nothing in any act of Parliament , or in Parliamentary practice , to preclude the House from nominating the Baron . —Mr . Whitbread took a different view , and suggested several difficulties
that were likely to arise from the proposed step . —Mr . Hbadlam supported the motion , which was opposed by Mr . Macaulay . —Mr . Collier insisted that the precedent which had been quoted was exactly a case in point . —The motion was further supported by Mr . Puller , and opposed by Mr . Malins and Mr . Drummond . —The House divided on the motion , when the numbers ¦ were— ... . ¦ - : For . 251 Against .. 196 Majority for the motion ...... - ——55 The result of the division was received with cheers . — Lord Johk Russell then moved that the committee do withdraw immediately ; and the motion was agreed to . MINING OPERATIONS IN THE DtTCHY OF LANCASTER . Mr . Ricardo presented petitions from the copyholders and inhabitants and the corporation of the borough of Hanley , in the Staffordshire Potteries , complaining of the peril to their lives and property to which they are subjected by the mining operations under the Duchy of Lancaster , and moved for a Select Committee to inquire into the allegations of the petitioners . —Mr . Baines , having held the office of Chancellor of the Duchy under the late administration ( which is now held by a member of the other House ) , replied to Mr . Ricardo , and suggested that a court of law is the proper tribunal to appeal to . —Mr- Alderman Copeland , Lord Ingestre , and Mr . Wise supported the motion , which was opposed by the Marquis of Haktington , Sir Richard Bethell , Mr . Atiieuton , and Mr . Walbolts , the last named of whom expressed his opinion that nothing would be gained by submitting this strictly legal question to a select committee . He had proposed to the parties that a special case should be prei pared and submitted to a court of law , subject to an . appeal to the Exchequer Chamber or the House of Lords . This he thought was the proper course to be taken , and he could not consent to appoint a select committee to institute aa inquiry which would lead to no result , and to consider a point of law upon which it could not decide . Mr . Ricabdo having briufly replied , the House divided , and the motion was lost by 128 to 63 . PRIVATE , BILL COMMITTEES . Lord Kobert Cecil moved , by way of resolution , " That in the opinion of that House it was expedient that investigations into the merits of private bills , at present conducted by select committees of that House , should in future , as soon as the necessary arrangements could bo made , be conducted by a paid and permanent tribunal . "—Mr . Wilson Patten admitted that tho present system of discussing and examining private bills , by means of select committees , required alteration . He objected , however , to the motion now proposed as being too vaguo , and presenting no practical remedy . —Lord Stanlky also opposed the motion , contending that on the whole the select committees arrived at better results than could be accomplished by any other machinery . The queationa involved in private bills related not only to individual claims and rights , but to public interests with ^ Yh ich tho House alone was competent to deal , After some further discussion , the motion was withdrawn .
SANITARY CONDITION OF THE ARMY . Lord Ebrinoton moved a series of resolutions to tho following effect : — " That tho long continued excessive mortality of tho British Army lias been mainly caused by tho bad sanitary condition of their barrack accommodation ; that tho House has viewed with satisfaction tho efforts of successi ve Governments to improve the moral , intellectual , and physical condition of the British soldier ; that much atill remains to be done with regard to barrack accommodation , for its increase with u view to tho discontinuance of the practice of billeting , and for its
improvement ; and that tmeh incrcaso und improvement arc imperatively called for , not leas T > y good policy and true economy than by justice and humanity . " Ho supported this motion by an array of facts which huvo been already submitted to the roadors of thia journal . — - Sir F . Smith disputed some of Lord librington'H < l « ta , and deniod that the mortality in tho army ia attributable in any groat dogreo to the want of cubical space in barracks . —Captain Annksmcy also questioned . some of tho noblo Lord ' a statements . —Mr . Williams complained that much of tho money voted by that llouao
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for the comfort of the soldier was spent in erecting ~" pavilion for the Queen at Aldershot . —Colonel Noivrs conceived that night duty had a good deal to do-with the -mortality ' in . the army . —Mr . ' Pea . se thought th present not the fittest time for raising the question of increased barrack accommodation . —Sir Joseph P . ixrov and Sir Hakry Vernky supported tlie motion .-l ^ L ! i Palmerston acknowledged that the subject was one of the highest importance , and that it was true economy to make outlays to secure the health of our soldiers . But he did not " think that any bUime attached in this matter to the departments . It was only within a few jear 3 that mankind had found out that pure air is conducive to health , lie hoped , however , the resolutions would be agreed to , as indicating a wish on the part of the House that attention should continue to be paid to barrack
accommodation . —Mr . Sidney Herbert observed tlat whatever might be the causes of the excessive mortalityin the army , the fact was certain , and the reason-wh y the report dwelt upon the deficiency of cubical space ia barracks was that it was only a matter of pounds shillings , and pence . —General Peel , said , so far from objecting to the resolutions—although he did not seethe necessity of them—he considered that their effect lvould be to support the Government . Nothing would give him greater pleasure than to carry out the recoihmeada . tions of the Sanitary Commissioners .- —Various matters connected more or less nearly with the health and . comfort of the soldier were adverted toby ColonelPesnakt Sir William Codrington , Colonel Ksfox , Mr . Mossell , Lord Burghley , and other members . —The resolutions were then agreed to . METROPOLITAN TURNHKE TOLLS . Mr . Byng moved an address to her Majesty to issue & Royal Commission to inquire and report as to the best means of affording to the inhabitants of the metropolitan districts within six miles of Charing-cross a relief from the abolition of turnpike-gates and toll-bars , similar to that which the Legislature has already granted , on the recommendation of a Royal Commission , to the metro . polis of Ireland . —The motion was agreed to . ELECTION COMMITTKES . Mr . Collins obtained leave to bring in a bill to further limit and define the jurisdiction of Election Committees in cases of scrutiny , by extending the provisions of the act of the sixth year of her present Majesty . The House adjourned at twenty minutes to one o ' clock . Wednesday , May 12 th . POOR-RATES ( METROPOLIS ) BILL . Mr . Aykton moved the second reading of this bill , which , he said , he threw on the President of the Pooi Law Board . —Mr . Sotheron Estcoukt objected to the powers and functions of the Court of Justices who tkk to make the assessments . His dislike of the bill was
however , mainly based on the fatal blot that those who contributed the money were to ' have no share in its distribution , there being not one word as to the control of the expenditure . There was only one safe principle in dealing with this subject ; which was , never' to extend the area of liability beyond the limit which would give a representative body . Ho moved to defer the second reading for six months . —The bill was further opposed by Mr . Byng , Sir Benjamin Hall , Mr . T . J . Milleu , andMr . Duncombe , nnd was supported > y Mr . John Locke . — General Codringtox would not have objected to this inquiry if it had been confined to one specific object . — Mr . Ayrton said that , after what had taken place , he would not press his motion to a division . —Mr . Coixieu recommended Mr . Ayrton to apjly his mind to the subject of rating , not merely in the metropolis , but throughout the country . If lie would consider whether tlie urea of ratiog might not be extended , he would deserve the thanks of the country , and his next bill would be more comprehensive and better considered than the present . —The bill was then withdrawn .
PATENT LAW AMENDMENT BILL . Mr . Duncombe moved the second reading of this bill the object of which was to lessen tho cost of patents ' by reducing the fees . —The motion was seconded by Sir John Shelley . —The Soliciior-Genhral , after remarking that the bill seemed intended simply as a means of increasing tho business of patent agents , said it w ould throw a charge upon the Consolidated Fund , and deprive tho Patent Law Commissioners of a surplus which it was intended to appropriate to a museum , or p lace of deposit for models , and a library . He moved to defer the second reading for six months . —Mr . Duncombe and Sir John Shellky defended the bill ; but after some further discussion , the motion was negatived , and the bill was lost . KUK-OBMATOItr SCHOOLS ( iRKLANU ) KlUh .
Mr . Serjeant Dkasy having moved the second reading of this bill , Lord Naab said ho did not intend to offer any objection to tho second reading of a mcasuro whi <| l ' extended to Ireland what had been already adopted iu England . —A abort discussion ensued , and the bill was read n second time . Mr . Hamilton obtained leave to bring iu a bill to reduce tho Btamp duty on purports , and tlui Homo then adjourned at iivo o'clock . TAiiraJut / , May VMh ' . Tho IIousis ok Lon » s did not meet on Thuradrty . Hilt COLIN OAM 1 M 1 ICLL . In tho House of Commons . Mr . \ Vym- » uskod Uio
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Leader (1850-1860), May 15, 1858, page 460, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2242/page/4/
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