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UOUSE OF LORDS . —Fhidat its . 29 . I E * rl FuzwiLiiAM moved for a return from which ihe precise amount of the influx ol Irish paupers into Liverpool and Glasgow from the commencement of the present j car might be ascertained , and compared with a similar account for the same period last ye ir . Auer some conversation ' o which the subject gave rise , the motion was agreed to . After some other unimportant business , the house adjourned . UOUSE OF COMMONS , Friday , Jan . 29 . Mr . Fox Malxe moved the second reading of the Chelsea Pensioners Bill . The Bill was read a second time , and ordered to be cnmm med . Tne CHAsrBLLor . of the Exchequer moved the seeuud reading oi the Distilling iroro Sugar Bill .
After a short conversation , in which Mr . Mackenzie applied iordeiav . and in which his application was opposed by Mr . F . " French , Dr . Bowring , and some other members , it was read a second time , and ordered to be committed on Friday next . The Buckwheat , < fcc ., Importation Bill , was read a second time . The second reading of the Customs' Duties Bill was jx stpom'd until Monday next . The other or ' ers of the day were then disposed oi , and the house adjourned . la the House of Lords , on Monday night , the Earl of
Mountcashel in moving for certain returns connected « itli the Cmtt of Chancery in Ireland , and which , he contended , would show the real state and value of proj * Tty in that c-untry , and stated , that from a rough calculation he tad . nistds , he believed that the debts on Irish property amounted to one hundred millions sterling , and that eight years * rental was due on tbe whole of the lands in that country . After some discussion , however , he consented to withdraw his motion for one eet of returns , the collection ot which was impracticable , and to postpone a second motion , to give an opportunity of asset taining whether the returns could be made .
IRISH PAUPERS is LIVERPOOL . —Lord B & oooham presented a petition from the authorities and a great number of respectable inhabitants at Liverpool , comj-laimng of tlie intfsx of lxish j > n » p r » into that seaport . The petition stated that in fourteen days no fewer than 11 . 101 paupers came over frcni Ireland , ( being at th .-rate of 808 a-day . ) exclusive ot Thmsdaj last , when upwards of 1 , 100 were brought over in two steamers . They had reason to believe that thousands of persons were at tht present moment begging their way to the various seaports of Ireland with tbe intention of seeking their f jod in this country , sod , if possible , in Liverpool . They therefore prayed their lordships to interfere for their re . lief , and expressed a hope that Patliament would not separate without passing a law by which the people of Ireland , as we'l as the people of England , should he compelled to support their own p . ) or . Hi- lordship would
« ut express any opinion then as to a Poor Law , but fomtthiaf ; must be done to remedy the serious grievance complained of by the people « f Liverpool . He was aware the public press contended that the laud of Ireland ou ; ht to be taxed for the support of the Irish poor , but that would be only taxing the landlords twice over , because the mortgagee would call in his mortgage . Such a proposition was a spedes of cheap humanity that reminded him of a saying of Lord Elibank ' s , that there were two things in which most people w .-re exceedingly gem rous—otk < r people ' s money and their own advice ( A laugh . ) These persons were proclaiming the righs ot " the poor to be fed , but he denied the right of the poor man to be fed , unless by his own labour . Tbe Government were not bound to feed the poor , or even to find them work . ( Hear , hear . ) The only duty of the Governtn > -nt in that behalf was to remove all obstacles in the way of the peop le finding work for themselves .
TheiiARQcisof WESTMEiin denied that the grievance compl dn-d could be traced to the Irish Landlords as the petitioners had attempted to d <> . It did not lie at their dour . but at the door of those laws which were directed ¦ aga-. nst tl . e management of their estates , and from which they could not escape . There was also the greatest difficulty in putting the law ia force for the ejection of tenants at will . I How the granting of greater facilities to the landlords for driving the people of Ireland from their holdings would lessen the immigration to Liverpool , or what connection there was between the two ideas , is uotvery clear to us . ] No other business being before the house , their Lordships , alter a . hort sitting , adjourned . In the House cf Commons , after the usual questions , notices of motions , kc , had been disposed of , tbe house , on the motion of Lord J Russell , took up the order of the day fur the second reading of the
LABOURING POOR ( IRELAND ) BILL , —Mr . Wil-I ' . ius moved , as an amendment , " Thnt the second reading , and nil the other stages in this house , of th * Poor llilief ( Ireland ) Bill , shall have precedence oi the said Labouring Poor ( Ireland ) Bill . " He proposed this amendment because he was convinced that the Poor Relief ( Ireland ) Bill was the means by which the present calamities of Ireland would be removed at the least expense , and the recurrence ot similar calamities averted in future . The Destitute Persons ( Ireland ) Bill contained no liout to the expease which might he incurred under it , Lord Juhn Russell said that seven millions would be necessary to meet the expenditure which he contemplated up to the first of August . But he ( Mr . Williams ) believed that when the 1 st of Augu-t arrived , his Lordship ' s eyes would be opened to the commencement of the end ,
and that be would then be bringing in another bill for the removal of the still increasing evils of Ireland . He did not mean to express any approbation of the Poor Relief Bill now introduced ; on the contrary , he thought it no improvement on the existing law . The houseougbt to pau > e before it voted away public money as now proposed . All their past attempts tointroduce Poor Laws into Ireland had proved inefficient . He asked the government how long tbey were go ng to pursue that system of one in : fficient measure after another ! They had tried their first Poer Law Bill , and what had it done for the p ople of Ireland ! The commissioners appointed to inquire into the state of Ireland , with the view of making out a case ot necessity for a Pour Lntv , had reported that , in 1 S 35 , there w « e 1 , 131 , 0 ( 10 agricultural labourers who only received from 2 s . to 2 « . 6 d , a-week wages , and
tbat for thirty weeks out of the ntty-two tn each year one-half of those per . oiis were entirely out of employment . Including » htir families , here were 2 , 355 , 000 dependent on these miserable wages . And what provision had Her Majesty ' s then Government—of which the present Government was principal !) compostd—made for these 2 . 355 , 000 persons ! They had provided accommodation in workhouses for only 99 / 200 , so that there were more thin 2 , 000 , 000 still left destitute . Lord J . Russell bad related to the house , with proper feeling , the condition of the people of England as described in a work by Sir Thomas More . Now , he ( Mr . Williams ) considered tbat extract as precisely describing the condition of Ireland at the present time , and be regarded the state of things iu England then , and the state of things in Ireland now , as springing from precisely the same cause , namely ,
the oppression of the landed proprietors . After referring to the state of England just previous to the passing of th * Poor Law Act of Elizabeth , and showing that not less than 70 , 000 persons bad been convicted of crimes committed against persons aud property iu the course » f two years , the hon . member remarked , that the landlords of tbat period were forced to make due provision for the p oor in order to the security of their life and property ; and no sooner was the Poor Law of Elizabeth put in operation than tranquillity was restored . Let the Government pursue the same course as regarded Ireland , and he had no doubt that similar good consequences would follow . ( Hear , hear . ) He had heard various reasons given for the uuhappv condition of Ireland—one of which
was , that owing to an inherent defect in ihe race to which they belonged , the Irish were too lazy to work . Now , he had seen the Irish in Canada and in the United States , where tbey had an open field for their labour , and had found them maintaining a perfect equality as to industry and love of personal comfort with the Germans , Americans , and others by whom they were there surrounded , and all they wanted to enable them to exhibit tlie same characteristics it their » wn country was fair play . But while tbey were kept on such miserable wages as St . or i ' s . fid . a-week , what could be expected from them * la conclusion , he recommended the Government to ttc the mortgagees of Irish estates for their share of he ceet « f supporting tbe poor .
The amendment found no seconder , and tbe order of tlie day was read . On the motion th jt the Libourtng Vmv Bill be reaa a second time , Mr . B . OeaoasE passed in review the measures adopted by the Government during the progress of the Irish distress . He e » peeiai ' y condemned the Labour Rate Act , as one the operation of which was to be seen in broken up roudj , iu an iiupwerished gentry , and in the wasted finances ot this country . He complained tbat Parliament had nut been c tiled together at an early period , and reunited tint the ojiiiit >» u of the Lord-Lieutenant iu utli r re ^ p-.-trU ha-i not beet followed ; if it bad , reproductive works wou . 'd have been undertaken , aud Eaglan-i would nut have iu pay tbe expenses that were to be em , m her . It tvus c . 'ear that on the 17 th of August iast , tlttf nob : * i"r < l contemplated that luilt ' . at least of the xpn . s . !> lniuld bu borue by tfie finances of the country . it ii ,-n nut Id * intention to a ; ue : c the noble lord on
accvuut of t ! ie teStci * -ofthat measure ; August legislation w ^ s apt to be ofa liatiy character . When the charms of grev . e eutere into coinp .- ilion with tbe duties ot ' statesluaiit ^ iij . , there was little c- aooe ofa bill of tbat nature b-ing { .-Ioperlv i-ii ,- » id « re . ! . Tlie unconstitutional nature tif thej . rovi » ioll' of the Labour Act reminded him of an anec-iote of the Iri ~ h Parliament , where : i lit ty . miles road b : il was cwu , 'g : e-i tkr iu « h as a rider to a t-. Lai-co bill . The part jf : iie in . b ; , ] , rd ' .. proposed measuies which lia . J reitrrci- * > v : i / e reclamation of wist * lands was Utopian . V « .-. ¦ : noble lord stated the quantity of waste
iuiid capable v . improvement to be -f . tiW . UflO acres ; Mr . Griffiths cstimited it at 6 , 23 * 001 ) acres , of which 3 , 755 000 acrid w « re improvable , but oi these 2 ,. ;^ l , 000 acres could oniy be made rough meadow , as pasture for sbi * p . o „ . fa- subject tbey had swine eridtiite of which it »« as well the house should be in possession The Guiernm . iuiiaj already r claimed * u « ie wastelands , aud there was at the present time a considerable model farm upon laud of that kind , called Kiug Vf illiautVtowm . Mr . Griffiths , in bis report from this Zaun in 183 ( 1 , saya "The cost of reclaiming 'flow bog' is £ 3 . 0 i . lOd . per a cre ; the produce fw four years is worth £ 24 . 3 s . 5 d , ;'
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the expenditure for the same time is £ . 25 . 12 s . 6 d ., lsav ing a loss at the end of four years of £ 1 . 9 s . Id . ( Hear , bear . ) The estimate for reclaiming ' compact bog' is £ 6 . 8 s . per acre , produce for four years £ 24 3 s . 5 d . ; the expenditure for the same period £ 22 5 . « . 8 d . ; leaving a profit of £ . 1 17 s , 9 J . on reclaimed land of the besi quality . "' ( Hear . ) He was sure the House of Common * would look with a little caution before it voted a million of money for this rather Utopian scheme . ( Hear hear . ) He had no objection to tlie principle of taking a man ' s land and improving it , if it could be proved that it was for the good of the commonwealth ; but he bad an objection to the people of England paying all this money for a scheme at best problematical . Mr . Griffiths in his report for 1844 , further said of the model farm " The crops ol all kinds are unusuall y subject to the vicissitudes of the
seasons ; but it has been so far able to keep its he d above water as to return a deficit in three years 01 £ . 23 lis . 9 | d , ( Hear , hear . ) The house ought to pause before it engaged in such an undertaking , and what did the Government propose to do ? There were 4 , 000 , 000 acres of waste laud : a grant of £ . 1 , 000 , 000 would be equal to 4 s . per acre to reclaim land worth only 2 s . Gd . per acre . ( Hear , bear . ) What improvement could be effected by such a sum , which be supposed would include the expense of surveying by tbe stiff of the Board of Works , which in Ireland was very heavy ! He thought this plan the most complete bubble a Government bad ever broug ht before Parliement . The plan was besides this obnoxious on account of the encouragement it gave to the retension of that system of small holdings which had already proved so detrimental
to Ireland . As to a Poor Law , as far as extending out . door relief to the aged , the infirm , and the impotent , he thought the opinions of the Irish members would be unanimous ; but when they came to give out-door relief to the able-bodied in Ireland , he asked them to remember that circumstances were very different in that century from what , they were in England . A great physiologist defined the cholera to be " a diseafe that began with death" ths proposal for gi ing out-door relief to tbe able-bodied in Ireland might be called " a confiscation commencing by revolution . " So low was the standard of comfort in Ireland , so philosophical was tbe resolve of the Irish peasant to want but little and to do with still less , tbat if they once instituted tbe system of # ut-door relief in Ireland without the workhouse test , be was confident they would extinguish the last
spark of self-reliance aud independence in his bosom . ( Hear , hear . ) That was a moral objection to the proposal ; but there were economic objections of equal force . The rental of Ireland was calculated at Ten millions ; the number of the population entitled to relief would be 2 , 500 , 000 ; who , at Is . 9 d . a-week per bead , would , in a year , require £ 11 , 375 , 000 . ( Hear . ) Having thus absorbed the whole Rental of Ireland , what woulu be the consequence f That the * ho ! e of this burden must fall upon England and tjie English people . Mr . Osborne then brought up tbe standing bugbear of political econo . mists : —in tbe parish of Chalesbury where the rental was insufficient to pay the rates and the parish was thrown out of cultivati"n jn consequence . This was a warning against Poor Laws , unless on a very limited scale indeed . As to emigration , the word was unpopular
in Ireland ; but he was certain that its landlords would gladly submit to any tax for an useful system of colonization . After alluding to the necessity of reforming the grand jury system in Ireland , be concluded his review of the noble Lord ' s plans by stating that they were not calculated to elevate the condition of the poor of Ireland , and by condemning them as tbe enunciation of a sentiment rather than the declaration ofa policy . He then proposed some plans of his own for the cure of the grievances of Ireland . He was of opinion that the wbola system of the Executive Government of that country ought to be changed . You must either make the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland a real king in tbat country , or you must abolish his office . You must also make Parliament meet occasionally in tbe Castle of Dublin . He bad studiously avoided political subjects ; at the same time he bad his doubts whether Lord John had not let slip a great opportunity of bringing forward a real plan for the redemption of Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) He could
not resume bis seat without saying , unless certain parties who never showed any great zeal for religion , except when , according to Burke , it was employed in mortify , irg their neighbours , —unless they divefted themselves oftheodium <&« o ! o < n « uT > i that rankled in their breasts , the nnlon between the countries wonld never be anything but one of parchment . There should be no Pharisaical pride in affording such relief ; there should be no anathema of the tongue to lessen tbe m « rit of tbe charity . ( Hear , hear . ) They bad not shown that charity which bearetball tlings , beliereth all things , hopetball things , endureth all things ; they had manifested only that spirit which enacted tbe penal laws , tbat spirit which would echo and call back the errors and the barbarisms of the 16 th century . If they would teed the starving , they must delay the work of making converts . ( Hear , hear . ) Tbey who played on the sounding brass and the tinkling cymbtl should remember the Universal Prayer , and , at such a moment , should not
" Deal damnation round tbe land " On each thsy judged their foe . " ( Cheers . ) Toe noble lord most search in the page of history for the records of England ' s misgovernment in Ireland , and for the evidence of the evils whichit was now incumbent on them to avoid . This country owed avast debt te Ireland for ages of misrule , and that debt was not to be cancelled by mere pecuniary compensation . The only way in which tbey could meet the responsibility was for that house to pass laws in a wide , latge , and coraprthensive spirit—laws which should be free both from sectarian intolerance aud parochial bigotry . Thus only could they cancel that debt ; these were the things tbe Crown could grant , and these were the laws which Parliament should enact . ( Cheers . )
Mr . Smith 0 Bans examined seriatim all tbe statements made by Lord John Russell in laying his Irish scheme before tbe bouse , and the measures which the Minister bad then sketched . The bon . member asserted tbat tbe potato loss bad been undsr-estimated—the moneyless having been , according to his calculation , between twenty and thirty millions sterling for Ireland alone . He dwelt much upon the absurdity of allowing exportation of all kinds of food to go on from Ireland , while that country was famishing through a deficiency ; and declared that not a single death from starvation would hare taken place bad the Government , disregarding their political economy , acted as the emergency demanded . He would not object to tbe extension of tbe Poor Law ; and bethought that from proper encouragement to the fisheries , much good could be derived . But he regretted that emigration formed no part of the Ministerial plan . In his opiuion , however , a law to secure compensation to tenants for improvements made in their holdings would do more good for Ireland than all
tbe proposed measures , A tax upon those abstaatees who drained the country of four millions annually , wonld likewise be a measure of justice aud benefit to Ireland . He conceived Mr . B . Of borne to hare made a most unfair and unjust attack on the scheme proposed for the recla . mation of waste lands . He believed that that measure might be made a most beneficial one . He knew land in Ireland not producing Is . which , if cultivated , would give employment to thousands of people . He thought that the subdivision of waste lands to tbe extent sta ' ed by tbe noble lord—say , about 25 acres—would confer great advantages upon the people ot Ireland , not only by employing the people , but by producing in future a class of small proprietors ; a class which was found to exist beneficially in every country where tbey had sprung up . ( Hear . ) He concluded by declaring that if ever there was an occasion , this was the occasion on which the Government ought to consider how far the national resources could be directed to tbe formation and continuance of railways , and useful public works in Ireland .
Mr . Roebuck protested in the name of his hard-working , industrious fellow-countrymen , against tbe whole scheme of the government—against indemnifying the Irish landlords for the consequences of their own extra , vagance and misconduct—against squandering public money upon waste lands—and against tbe inefficient Poor Relief Bill introduced by the government . The English Poor Law , with all its machinery , ought to be extended to Ireland ; the society in Ireland was divided into two classes—the labouring population and the landlords . It was asked to relieve the former from starvation , and the latter from ruin . The habitual condition of the former had always been on the brink of tbat misery into which they had this year fallen . They lived on the coarsest , meanest , and scantiest food , and subsisted not on wages , but on small holdings of land . They
were now in great misery , and the consequence was tbat their landlords came forward and asked tbe government of England to relieve them . He was not deficient in sympathy for the people of -Ireland , but he could not assent to the present plan for their relief , but he believed that it would extend and aggravate the evil which it pretended to cure . Why did he say this ? Because the nominal landlords of Ireland were not its real proprietors . The real landlords of Ireland were the mortgagee and the tax gatherer . As tbe people of Ireland were always on the verge of starvation , so were its landlords always on tbe verge of ruin , and were therefore always unable to perform the duties devolving on the possessors of tbe soil . It was the knowledge of this fact that had driven him to the necessity of inquiring into tlie justice of tbe claims wbic-b they were now making upon our
benevolence . He found that they had themselves been the cause of all the misery of which tbey now complained . Along with an ifficient Poor Law he would introduce a better law of real property , a better system of tenures , and better relations between landlord and tenant . There were other relations , however , in Ireland which it was incumbent upon them to improve . The tyranny of England was now recoiling on itself . It was hopeless to attempt the regeneration of the Irish character , if we left the great subject of religion to stir up animosities and heartburning . He looked with equal kindness upon Roman Catholics and upon Protestants ; but he hoped that he might say , without giving offence to cither party , that wc bad left the Irish Roman Catholic priesthood iu
a rendition in whichit was their interest to maintain the present state of discord . At the same time he must observe , that any government which attempted to make a State prevision for that clergy would not stand twenty-four hours after publicly making the attempt . He thought , however , that if we were to do away with Un laws of mortmain and to allow each priest to hold hnd to the amount of £ 300 a year , not many years would elapse before each priest would bave that income , and would thus be bound by recognizances to that amount to keep the peace . Yf hen tbe great objectof obtainiog religious harmony was accomplished , government wonld bave accomplished all that a government could accomplish , save the introduction of a tetter plan
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of educating the people- a subject on which be was surprised that not a wcrd had been Raid by Lord John Russell . He would find a fund for the purpose in the revenues of the Irish Church , supplying all tbe religious wants of thepersons belonging toit . Lord Be » nam > gave a description of the misery in Ireland , and condemned in strong terms the combination of the corn merchants in Cork and other places to keep back food far the purpose of raising prices . After reviewing the ( government measures , he stated that tntj were not , in bis opinion , eqnal to tbe emergency . Sir R . Inolis supported tbe ministerial plans , , V *> Osborne and Mr . Roebuck bad gone over a wide fieldthe latter especially had contrived to bring In every queslo vcxata which had been mooted in Parliament af late years , including a revival of the appropriation clause . The real question before the House , however , was the condition of the people of Ireland , and the best means of relieving it . Ho entirely approved of the Noble Lord ' s temporary measures for that purpose .
Colonel Cosollt gratefully acknowledged the generous sympathy exhibited by the English people to Ireland in her distress . The introduction of the English Poor Law into Ireland would , he firmly believed , destroy all the relief now afforded under the existing Irish Poor Law which , as far as bis experience west , had worked well . The scheme for the reclamation of waste land he regarded as a dangerous experiment ; reclamation had not proved remunerative to the landlord , and he could not conceive bow it could prove remunerative to the Government . He hoped the amount of tbe proposed loan for eeed would be extended .
Mr , Hums wiihed to know whether the gallant officer who had just spoken , when he said tbat be would do all in his power to prevent the able-bodied labourer from becoming a burden on tbe land of Ireland , meant to say that he would throw him as a burden on the land of England . He was not surprised that members from Ire > land expressed their approbation of Lord J . Russell ' s measures , for he was giving money ia abundance to the Irish landlords , and was sinking the condition of England , instead of elevating that of Ireland . When ha looked at the different measures of Government as a
whole , he found no plan or system in them . He objected to granting so many millions ef money to carry those measures into effect , at a time when the slightest public calamity or disturbance might render it a matter of the greatest difficulty to obtain a loan to the same amount . He was quite convinced tbat these measures would nut produce the regeneration of Ireland . The best mode of relieving tbe present distress of tbat country was , not by affording money either to the landlords or the people , but by compelling the former to provide useful employment for the latter . !
The CHANCELioh of tbe Exche « . deb said that the speech of Mr . Hume did not contain a single suggestion forgiving that practical employment to tbe poor ef Ireland on which he declaimed so loudly . The circumstances of the country were such that no man could confidently predict tbat the measures of the G ivernment would be perfectly successful . They were , however , founded on the experience of the past , which was the best lesson for the future . He defended the Labour Rate Act from tbe criticisms of Mr . B , Osborne , and gave a history of the proceedings under it . He also described the conduct of the Government and the Board of Works under the Presentment Act , and insisted that it was monstrous to contend that that act was unpopular , seeing that presentments for more than a million sterling had been made under its authority . He admitted that
many of tho landlords of Ireland had performed their duty with exemplary generosity ; but maintained that others had perpetrated the very abuses whichit was expi cted they would check . He defended the absentee pro . prietors ftom the sweeping abuse lavished upon them , one of them , late a member of thathouse—Colonel Wyndbam—was supplyiag daily rations to 10 , 000 persons . He regretted to state that the system of work was breaking down under the Government , and that their officers were suggesting to them to provide food and not labour for be people . It was stated by them that many now crowded to tbe works who were incapable of sustaining the fa . tigne of labour , and who in consequence died upon them and that others , who a few weeks ago were able to earn large wages by task . work , were now so reduced as to be unable to earn enough to purchase food for their daily
sustenance . Under suoli circumstances , he was afraid that the Government would be reduced to the last alter , native of giving food to mitigate tbe evil ; and it was proposed to do it either by the gratuitous distribution of rations , or by the sale , at reduced prices , of soup and cooked or uncooked meat by the relief committees in the different electoral districts of the country . He believed that there were two great difficulties now pressing on Ireland—the first was a famine , unparalleled in its extent ; and the second was a total change in the social system of Ireland , based on the failure of tbe potato . He then explained tbe manner in which the measures of Government were calculated to grapple with both . He showed that by the extension of the present Irish Poor Law , by loans on the security of private estates , by tbe adoption of a large Drainage Act , by the grant of a
million for the reclamation of waste lands , aod by giving facilities to tbe sale of encumbered lands , the house would lay tbe foundation of a sounder state of things in Ireland . Ministers could not conceal from themselves and had no wish to conceal from the country , that hundreds were dying daily of famine . No local assistance , no local funds could provide against an evil so extensive - and we must , therefore , come forward to a large and ' indeed , to a very considerable extent , to assist our l « u bouring fellow-countrymen . He hoped that there would be no indisposition on the part either of England or of Scotland to give aid ; and if that aid was afforded , Government must call on the gentlemen of Ireland to give without delay their personal co-operation ; without it , Government could do nothing ; with it he had no doubt that it would bs able to perform all tbat any Government could perform in sueh an emergency .
On the motion of Mr . Hamilton , tbe debate was then adjourned . In the House of Lords on Tuesday night , on the motion of the Duke of Richmond , the select committee on the Drainage of Lands was re-appointed . SUGAR BILL AND POOR LAW COMMISSION . — Lord Stanley urged the government not to proceed , without due consideration , with the measure for permitting the use of sugar in brewing and distillation ; and stated that bethought , in justice to the landed interest of this country , the malt duty should b gradually reduced , simultaneously with the reduction of the differential duty on foreign sugar , which will cease in 1851 . He also put a question as to whether government intended to propose any remodelling of the authority of the Poor Law Commissioners , to make their authority extend to Ireland ; and , at the same time , expressed an opinion , that the whole subject of Poor Law settlement , both with re ference to England and Ireland , ought to be brought before Parliament .
The Marquis of Lansdowne said that it was tbe intention of the government to remodel the poor-law commission . It was also intended that one commissioner should be resident in Ireland , but he could not state bow the poor-law commission in England would affect bis authority . The whole bearings of the subject could be considered when the bill was introduced . The house then adjourned . In the House of Commons the following petitions were presented : — By Mr . O . Duncombe , in favour of the Ten Hours' Bill
—Mr . T . DrncoMBE , from Mr . Roberts , solicitor , complaining of tbe committal of four men to Kirkdale gaol for three months with hard labour , for absenting themselves from their work in consequence of their wages being lowered ; a petition from the guardians of Mitton , praying for the repeal of the 9 th and 10 th Victoria , c . 56 ; from a parish in Nottinghamshire , against the Poor Removal Act , and for total abolition of law of settlement . — Mr . E . Denison , from guardians of the poor of the Waltbam union , against the Poor Removal Act , —Mr . T . Duncombe , from Greenock , against the use of grain in distilleries . — lord G . Bentinck , from Chorley and other places , in favour of the Ten Hours * Factory
Bill . Ma . DONcombe also gave notice that on Wednesday he would move that the petition of Mr . Roberts be printed with tbe votes . MILLBANK PRISON—Mr . T . Buncombe understood that the report of the third commissioner on tbe subject of the MUtbatik Prison bad been sent to the Home Secretary , and be wished to know whether the right hon . baronet had laid it on the table of the house . Sir G . G » et had told Mr . Escott tbat he must put the report which he had sent to him in the form of a letter instead of a repci-t , as a majority of the commissioners naa agreed to a report ; and when it was presented to him in that shape , he should be prepared to lay it on the table . Mr . B . Escott thought , from the terms of the commission , tbat he was bound to send in a report ,
PRIVILEGE . —Sir F . Thesioe * informed the House that in the case of Howard v . Gossett , the Court of Ex . chequer Chamber had that day unanimously pronounced a decision reversing the jud gment of the Court of Queen ' s Bench , which bad declared against tbe justification pleaded by the Sergeant-at-Arms . This reversal proved that tbe resolution adopted by the House , on tbe recommendation of its committee , to bring a writ of error , was a judicious one , and it placed tbe House in a position to exercise their just and necessary privileges . The Hon . and Learned Gentleman moved for a copy of the shorthand writer s notes of the arguments and judgment on the writ of error . This information was received with loud cheers , and the motion was agreed to .
FINANCES . —Lord John Ruislil , in answer to Mr . Roebuck , who conceived that he should hare seme claim on the Governmsnt , if he consented to postpone bis motion for a committee of the whole house , to consider the Act of tbe 5 th and lith Vic , c . 8 f > , with a view to extend its operation to Ireland , said , that as soon as the House had consented to the second reading of the Irish Bills , the Chancellor of the Exchequer would bring forward the whole question , as it regarded finance for Ireland . His Right Hon . Frt \ etid would most probably make bis statement on an earl ' v day . LABOURING POOR ( IRELAND ) BILL . — Several members who had notices of motion on the paper having postponed them , tboadjourned debate on this bill ' was resumed by '
Mr . O . A . Hamilton , trt ' 10 noticed the speech of the Chancellor of the Exchcqu & r on Monday evening , with which he agreed in the main , and then vindicated the relief committees from certain charges of neglect and inactivity , which bad been preferred against them , After a cursory glance at the conditio * , ' ef the Irish peasantry
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as affected by the nature and the variety of the Und tenures , the honourable gentleman went on W exonerate tbe resident landlords as a class from the blame which was justly attachable to some of them for their inexcu . sable supineness in an emergency like the present ; and to bear testimony to the beneficient exer tionsof the great absentee proprietors—to tbe smaller holders of which class he maintained that the charge of neglect was very justly attributable . Ho then objected to tbat portion of the proposed Poor-law which provided for the extension of out-doorrelief to the able-bodied poor , on the ground tbat it would not eonduce to the social improvement of the people . In an exigency like the present , that relief might be afforded without making a provision for it in a Poor-law designed to be permanent , Adverting to the recent meeting of landlords In Dublin , ' he
said , he was anxious to allude to an observation which fell from Ml . hon . friend the member for the University of Oxford at an early period of the session , when he designated the gentlemen who attended that meeting , and those associated with them , "the United Irishmen . " ( A laugh . ) He did not think that his hon . friend bad used that appellation in an offensive sense ; but he should like to know what stronger proof could possibly be offered of the imminent danger in which Ireland wag now placed , than the fact that gentlemen differing essen . tially from each other upon many most important points should have felt it to be their duty to lay aside their political hostilities and join together for the purpose of endeavouring to rescue their country from the perils by which it was surrounded . Tbey were united , not to destroy , but to preserve—not to create , but , if possible , to
prevent the horrors ofa social revolution {—united , not to involve the country in anarchy and confusion , but , in the words of one of the resolutions adopted at the Dub . lin meeting , " to raise the social condition of the people and save all classes from the ruin with which they are at present threatened . " He could assure his hon , friend tbat the union among Irish gentlemen on this subject was but a faint reflection of the unity of purpose and harmony of feeling existing among all classes iu Ireland on the present occasion . This great calamity , tbis visitation of Providence , had softened men ' s hearts , and called forth the holier and better impulses of our nature . It was delightful to see on tbe relief committees men , whom early prejudice , strong prepossessions , and , perhaps , the influence of stern principle , had hitherto estranged , emulating each other in an endeavour to elevate the character
of their fellow countrymen . ( Hear , hear . ) It was delightfulto see prejudices gradually dissipating , prepossessions gradually disappearing , and the foundation laid for friendship , harmony , and good feeling , among the different classes of the community , and he hoped this state of things would long survive the unhappy occasion whieh had given rise to it . ( Hear . ) With respect to tbe measures proposed by tbe Government , as they ' were founded on the principle of introducing capital into that country , he would give them all the support in bis power . Mr . J . O'Connell -urged the house not to delay in passing tbeso measures , because , whilst tbey were deliberating , the people were perishing . Three characteristics Were remarkable in this debate—a general sympathy for Ireland , u general ignorance of Irish affairs , and an accountable eagerness on the part of two or three
Hon . members to cast aspersions on tbe landlords , the clergy , and the people of Ireland . The Irish landlords bad their faults ; but it should be remembered tbat the British Parliament bad encouraged them in their errors , and during tbe present crisis they bad nobly performed their duty . The clergy had also proved themselves tbe best friends of the people in the hour of desolation and death ; and the people themselves bad exhibited the most unprecedented fortitude ln bearing with their afflic tions . Though proposed to the extension of the Poorlaw ina country like Ireland , where the number of paupers was so great as compared with that of tbe ratepayers , he would offer no opposition to its extension , in the present instance , any more than he weuld oppose , if in a sinking ship , the making ofa raft out of her spars and planks . It was a desperate case , one that would not bave occurred
bad Ireland had the management of her own affairs . But no great measure of general state policy could meet instant misery in Ireland ; tbey mustadopt every expedient for tae sake of preserving a few lives , Under these circumttatic ^ s he would grasp at these means of saving a smallpartof the population ; though it would be attended by pernicious ultimate consequences , it would be of some present advantage . He therefore withdrew all the op . position , feeble and inefectual as it would bave been , which at another time he should have felt it his urgent duty to bave offered to tbe extension of tbe poor law . It bad been generally remarked of tbe proposed measures , that there was a want of comprehensiveness about them ; it was because tbe house would not consider that
measure which a large majority of the people of Ireland considered the panacea for all their evils—the repeal of the union . That measure was now laughed at in that bouse , but it would be forced on their attention by the present cdamity . The people of Ireland believed it would testore its prosperity , increase its revenues , and make it a useful allay and assistance to England , instead of being a drag and a drain on her , and prevent the recurrence of sucn a disaster as they were then endeavour , ing in vain to meet . In conclusion , he implored tbe house to pass tbeie measures as speedily as possible ; and during the rest of the discussion heboped there would be no more unjust , unfair , and unhuman attacks on tbe unfortunate people of Irel and .
Lord Castlekeagh eulogised tbe Government and the English people for their liberality to Ireland , praised the Lord-Lieutenant , and declared that should a tax on Irish absentees be proposed , he would give the proposition his support . A sentiment which was alsowarmly expressed by Lord Clements , and other Irish resident landlords who followed him . Lord Clements complained of tbe conduct oftheabsentee landlords for the non-performance of their various duties . His greatest trouble as a magistrate , was in protecting the £ -4 tenants against tbe rapacity and extortion of the bailiffs and other officers of some of them . Mr . CEcitLAWLEes . tbenew nominee of Conciliation , feared tbe measures were six months too late , in which opinion Mr . Gregory concurred . He also thought that the Government would more profitably expend a million of money in the establishment of agricultural schools throughout Ireland , than in reclaiming the waste lands .
Sir H . W , Babbos gave a list of the grievances of Ireland , from the time of Henry II . dowawards , charging them all upon British legislation , wbicb , he maintained , was alone accountable for them , Thus , it was that the name of " Saxon" was hateful in Ireland . After a speech of approval from Mr . Lefbot , Mr . Labouchebe said he would join in no sweeping conlimnation against the Irish landlords , many of whom had conscientiously done their duty , but be was bound to say that in too many instances had the Government , in its exertions to ameliorate the condition of Ireland , been deprived of that support on the part of tbe landlords which they had a right to expect . Unless they received a more general support from the Irish gentry , he despaired , devise what schemes tbey might , ofextricating Ireland .
Sir R . Peel deprecated a general debate on tbe measures before the house ( in their present state , as they could be weighed and considered in all their details when tbey were brought into committee . They should at once proceed , if possible , to enact those measures intended to meet the present distress . He was prepared to grant full indemnity to Her Majesty ' s Government for tbe responsibility they had assumed in the crisis which had fallen upon tbern . He thought , however , that it would be an advantage in reference to the future , that there should be , in the bill which granted tbe indemnity , ar explanation of the circumstances under which tlie responsibility bad been assumed . He was willing to give his assent at once to the bill for giving further power to tbe relief committees . The evils of tbe present system of public works in Ireland were great , and the sooner
the remedy was applied the better . He was surprised tbat Mr . Laboucbere underrated tbe danger which arose from the application by the government of the labour of the people to public works , when he remembered that only in August last , when commenting on the conduct of the late government , he bad stated that tbe greatest inconvenience arose in Ireland from directing labour from the ordinary operations of business , when only 60 , 000 or 70 , 000 people were engaged upon public works . If tbis was tbe case then , how much more must it be so now , when about half a million of people were so employed , He was ready to give , under" existing circumstances , a wide discretion to the government . The officers who had been engaged in carrying tbe present system into opera * tion were entitled to the greatest credit . As to the landlords of Ireland , be thought that great allowance should
be made for the difficulties with which they were surrounded . English gentlemen should remember this , when they censured the landlords of the sitter country . And in reference to that sex who were always foremost in tbe works of charity and mercy , there was no country in the world the " ladies and females" of which exhibited instances of greater devotion nnd sacrifice of health , time , and all worldly intercuts , in attempting to alleviate the distress which existed around them , than did those of It-eland . As to the mode in which the subordinate officers of the government bad acquitted themselves of their duties , it was evident that they had been inspired by the activity , the devoteduess , and the vigilance of Mr . Trevelyan . Indeed , it was impossible to read the volumes which were before ths house , relating to public works , and other subjects connected with Ireland , without - awarding the highest meed of praise to both the higher and tbe inferior officers employed , for their industry , intelligence , and integrity , and for their devotion of every faculty of body and mind , without
thought of themselves in the performance of their arduous duties . He repeated his belief , that the Government should in the present etn « rger » cy be aimed with a wide discretionary power , if the house and the country expected them toexcrt themselves with effect , andin order to avert the calamity with which they were threatened ; and that under such circumstances it would be most unwise to attempt to limit thiir powers b y minute and hampering legislation . He was glad to say that he perceived sufficient proofs of intelligence , of activity , and ofa sense of responsibility on the part of those employed , to render him willing to grant this discretion to the government . As to tbe measures which had been foreshadowed to them ! for the permanent improvement of Ireland , it would be ' impropir in the house to enter into tlie discussion of their principle at present . He thought , however , in reference to one of them , he meant that for tbe sale of encumbered estates , that it was often times more importance to Ireland than were some of tbe meatures whieh they were now discussing . With resptct , to the cultivation of th waste lands , he hoped the noble lord would pause bsfor
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be appropriated tbe public money to so problematic a purpose . In the conclusion of hit opening statement , Lord J . Russell bad advised tbe Irish proprietors to act independently and for themselves , before they looked for external aid . Let him extend the application ef tbat principle to tbe reclamation of the waste lands . To accustom the Irish people and proprietors to depend upon this country for aid was only to paralyse the energies of Ireland . If the speculation in regard to tbe waste land * was a profitable one , private capital would soon be erabarked in tbe enterprise ; Hit was not profitable , they would only be throwing away the public money in so appropriating it , The government would absolve him from
all patty feeling or hostility to them in thus declaring his opinion regarding this measure , but be would fail in the performance of bis duty unless he stated what were bis views with respect to it . The noble lord had many and arduous duties to perform , but if he attempted to make himself an improver , on a large scale , of Irish bags he would involve himself in difficulties from whichit would be no easy matter to escape . He would say nothing at present in respect to tbe poor law , as that measure would soon be before them In its details , and be would conclude by expressing a hope tbat no unnecessary dela > would take place , but that the house would at once proceed to sanction the proposals of the government which were now before it .
Mr . Staffobd O'Brien , in declaring that he was not opposed at present to the principle embodied in tbe measures before the house , reserved to himself the liberty of discussing their details in committee , particularly those of tbe Poor Relief Bill . The bill was then read a second time , and ordered to be committed . The Poor Relief ( Ireland ) Bill and the Destitute Persons ( Ireland ) Bill were also read a second time and ordered to be committed , end the house then adjourned . The House of Commons sat for an hour and a quarter on Wednesday , no business of importance was transacted if we except the short discussion respecting Mr . Estcott ' s report on the state ofMillbank prison . Mr . M . Gobe having moved that that report be laid before the house ,
Sir G . Gbei bad stated that what the commissioners were authorised to make wa , g a joint report , and that report had been | m < idewitb the omission of the signature of one of the three , the hon . member for Winchester . That ^ bon . gentleman had no power to make a separate report ; he could only send in a letter , and he ( Sir G . Grey ) had ascertained tbat tbe practice was to address such a letter , not to the Crown directly , but to the Home Secretary . The document sent in by tbe bon . member was informal in both those respects , and had been returned to him to be put into tbe usual shape , When that had been dene , the letter should belaid on the table of tbe bouse .
Mr . Escott differed entirely from this view of the matter , Tbe commission was addressed to three persons , and they Were commanded to report " their several proceedings , and what they should find touching the same . " Not concurring in the report made by two of those commissioners , he bad found upon looking to tbe commission tbat under its express command it was bis duty to report , It did not seem to him to be immaterial whether the subject matter of that report was put into the form of a letter to the Home Secretary , or was in the shape required by tbe commission ; a mere letter to tbe Home Secretary might appear rather to convey the writer ' s opinion on the report of tbe other two commissioners , than to be itself a report made under tbe injunctions of tbe commission . He had accordingly sent it in the usual shape ; ot course he could not compel the Home Secretary to present it , but if he should not send it in to her Majesty , he ( Mr . Escott ) should take other steps upon a future day .
Sir G . Gbex did not wish tbe bon . member to criticise the nport signed by the other two commissioners , or to alter one word of the document which he bad sent in , except the beading of it , which stated it to be addressed to Her Majesty , and the termination of it , which stated it to be under his hand and seal . If be merely put it thus into the shape adopted by ever ; other dissenting commissioner , it would be laid before tbe bouse . Mr , Duncombe observed , that to act consistently with practice , precedent , and the commands of Her Majesty , tbe hon , gentleman ought to report . The terms of the
commission were commanding the commissioners to report under their hands and seals their " several proceedings . " Lord Chichester showed by the language of bis letter tbat he did not consider the report of the commissioners complete without the bon , gentleman ' s . It was said that the hon . gentleman , in accordance with practice , ought to send a letter ; but , when the Municipal Commission sat , Sir Francis Palgrave sent in a separate report ; and the views of tbe bon . gentleman ought to be stated in that shape if he were to act in conformity with what was really tbe praetice ,
Mr . Roebuck took a similar view , and after a few words from Mr . F . Maule , tbe motion was withdrawn , Mr . Hume moved for certain returns as to the number of railway trains with the view of ascertaining where the travelling on Sunday , had been stopped partially or wholly . Tbe returns were ordered . Tbe sessional orders of last years , with respect to railway bills , were re-adopted . In the House of Lords , on Thursday , a short conversat ' on again arose respecting the influx of Irish paupeis into Liverpool , and no business was transacted . RAILWAYS IN IRELAND . —In the Commons , Lord G . Bentinck moved for leave to bring in a Bill to stimulate tbe prompt and profitable employment of the people by tbe encouragement of railways in Ireland . The House has tbis fact staring them in tbe face , and there were 500 , 000 able-bodied men commanded by a staff of above 11 , 000 persons , at tbis moment emplojid in Ireland on works which were worse than useless .
But this was no reason for despair , because England herself , in 1812 , had to support , 1 , 427 , 000 persons out of tbe parish rates ; aud yet , thanks to energy and railway enterprite —not to Free Trade , as some would ascribe it—England bad arisen from thnt calamitous position . The Railway Commission of 1836 had recommended a system of railways for Ireland , and Lord Devon ' s commusion had confirmed that recommendation . Acts of Parliament bad been passed for 1 , 052 miles of railways for Ireland , some of these eleven years ago , and jet only 123 miles were completed , and 16 * were in course of completion , while England and Scotland had 2 , 600 miles constructed , and 4 , 600 in progress . To establish that Irish railway speculation would prove remunerative , the Noble Lord quoted statistical
documents , showing tbat Ireland was more densely populated than England and Wales , tbat population was the first great element of railway success , and that tbe number of passengers who travelled on Irish railways far exceeded that of those who travelled on equal portions of English or Scotih lines . The traffic , too , in Ireland was greater , in proportion to the miles worked and the expense of construction , than the traffic on some favourite English lines ; yet such was the distrust and ignorance of tbe capitalists here with respect to the capabilities of Ireland , thai while inferior lines in England and Scotland were at a high premium , the best Irish lines were at ftu absurd discouut . Many of the ( railway share proprietors in Ireland were landlords and occupiers , who were sufferers by the existing famine , and who were obliged to suspend operations on 290 miles
of rail for want of money . The proposal which he should make was , tbat for every £ 100 . properly ex . pended on railways In Ireland , the government should grant a loan of £ 200 , at such interest , say three-anda-half per cent ., as tbe government itself would have to pay ; the loan to be repaid in thirty years . The worst railway that had been constructed in this country or in Belgium would afford ample security to the government , and the worst in Scotland , the Arbroath and Forfar , would on similar terms have paid the government interest on tbe loans , and leave two per cent , over for the share proprietors . He proposed that the Railway Board already formed should be responsible for the application of these loans ; that tbey should repott whether or not the railway would be beneficial to the country , whether it would give employment to the people , and
whether it would afford good security for repayment . Not forgetful of the poor , he had provided stringent clauses by which wages should be paid weekly , and in cash , and companies would be required to construct substantial dwellings for the labourers before tlie railway works shall be commenced . The construction of 1 , 500 miles of railway would improve tbe lauded property along the lines in Ireland to the extent , at twenty-five years ' purchase , of i' 23 , 000 , 000 : and £ 1 , 250 , 000 would be paid to landlords and occupiers for the purchase of tbe laud necessary for tho railroads , which money would atonoe be employed for agricultural purposes . With respect to the bearing of this measure on the public revenue , Lord George contended that the raising of sixteen millions , to be spread over four years ,
and to bo expended , not in war , or in foreign loans , in Portuguese bonds , or in Spanish Actives and Passives ; but . in tbat country , and on native industry , would not in the slighest degree aft ' ect the public funds . And when he looked at what railwayenterprise had done for England in raising its revenue , he thought he was justified in asserting that the State , by adopting his proposal , and by lending nothing but its credit and its name , would reap an enormous amount of income from Ireland . Reassured the government he had not the sli ghtest wish to introduce this Bill in a spirit of hostility or rivalry ! but simply as on aid to their measures of relief ; and he assured the Irish members tbat he had abstained from consulting them upon it , lest it should incur tbe suspicion of beiny an Irish job ,
Lord J . Russell complimented Lord G . Bentinck on the ability displayed in framing his plan and In the spirit by which he introduced it , and gave him full credit fur the zealous desire to b & uefit the people of Ireland . A plan of a similar nature had been under the consideration of the present g vermnent , as well as of the late , ami it was their conclusion that the employment which would be given by railway companies would not be such as would best remedy the general distress now felt in Ireland . But besides that special objection , it would not be advisable for tbe government to step out of their usual functions and interfere with the application of capital bv favouring some railways to tbe detriment of others ; He would not oppose the bringing in of the Bill ; but by so doing he would not be held as bound to support its future stages . Provived the BiU « as introduced without the money clauses there would be no technical objection to its introduction .
A lorg debate ensued , and a great number of Irish memoeri spoke In favour of Lord George ' s proposal , wbicl ) was also supportid by Mr . Hud « n and other Pio-
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ectionist members . Mr . IU > eb « k Ua ^ bw > ^ and condemned the bill in tofo . He blsmed nV » % for sufferin g it to be introduced at all when if Pr * 0 i ! dent intention to snuff it out like a candle on u " hU n pearance It was a mere „ iOW ° " WJ George , and an attempt to take aSvantiire lf , W < tresH , to benefit Irish landlords , but lf , « , lj * 4 t were passed he wodld move that no portion of ^ % to be advanced to Ireland should be il .- " ""nih member of Parliament . ** recei v «* b ) J Mr . Hume and other political economists . this now Of the subject . Almost evert us ^ ' ^ H fired as hot as Mr . Roebuck , who briifiv renv >* attacks which had been marie upon him . 1 ' " 'In cause he had acquitted himself of what he ' « * , V be duty to his constituents . TbehonourabU ? « ' ** *
V » . r . urauanj naa obsignated him a "• hrifrtl . i *** and he would remind that hon . gentleman » adJ V adder wasa very dangerous thing . WhenemT " " 'to send an arrow home , he h ?^] ff ' ^ the present mstance it appeared to havet keDl ' Colonel Rawdon anrefcd win , ?* ,.. u KeD "kct , for Bath , tbat a l ^ L ^ ^ TZ ? " * S H . thought that the bonou ab e ¦ SftSVS lauguage thatni ghtbad been verytsul in * ?? S proprietors . J msuumg to the [ J
? J . 1 bi ,. th 9 n read a first tlffie . to te read a w time on Thursday next . 8 ^ The house then went into committee " of the * i ' home pro forwx , for the purpose ofvotimr ' a . » k * carting £ 800 , 000 , on tbe security of theratTh ^ to be levied , for the purpose of the DesUtute ^ J After which it adjourned .
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THE TEN HOURS' BILL . TODMORDEN ' LordI Asbki visited this phce on Wednesday nu , andaddrtssi-d the inhabitants in the Odd Ftllownt ? on the Ten Hours' Bill . ' H The meeting was opened b y the Chairman , the R „ » Dowghty , Incumbant of Walsden Church , in a \' spetch , and resolutions were carried unanimously , „? vour of , he Dill . Lord A . hley in supporting them , i ± at great length upon the necessity of abiding steadf . to the agitation until the BiU was carried , and not allow the opponents of the measure to turn themfi ,, ? their object by sophistry or by the promise of an aer « ment between masters aod men . The meeting was very numerously attended ; on tfc , platform were many of the ministers and milloi \! if » some of whom were no friends ot the BUI , who , howe */ offered no opposition to Lord Ashley ' s arguments , '
HUDDERSFIELD , retitions to Parliament in favour of a Ten wW Factory Bill , are now in course of signature in Hu « dH . field . ROCHDALE . On Thursday Evening we had the largest mwlm ever held in this town in the Public Hall , to heat Lai Ashley and Sharman Crawford on the Ten Hours' Bin Dr . Molesworth in the chair . Mr . Jacob Bright madl some observations on foreign competition , which Lo , i Ashley replied to to the satisfaction of the meeting Th « resolutions were carried with two dissentients , liuudteii could not get admission .
The Delegates m Lcndoh . —On Wednesday raotiit . a number of delegates from the manufacturing district ! of Lancashire and York « hlre reached London for tht purpose of promoting tbe bill now before Parliament . ut delegates assembled in the evening at their lod ging j t Northumberland Court , Strand , when they deteimitsj on their course of action . There were delegates present representing the following places : —Manchester , Bolton Oldham , Preston , Blackburn , Burnley , Accrington , Ean Heywood , Rochdale , Halifax , Ashton , Todmorden , lMit , ! field , Stalybridge , Wigan , Chorley , Warrington , Stock , port , Leeds , Bradford , and some other places in Lanes .
shire and Yorkshire . KttbU meeting tbe following int lution was unanimously adopted : — "That we , tbe dele . gates now assembled steadfastly to prosecute tbe passing of an efficient Ten Hours' Bill for all children and ininm employed in factories , record It as our unanimous opioica that nothing short of an efficient Ten Hours' Bill « ai satisfy our constituents ; and that our labours whilst ecu in ^ London shall be strictly confined to the promotion of lit Ten Hours'Bill now before Parliament , as brought in t f Messrs . Fielden , Brotherton , and Aglionby . " A chair . man and secretary having been appointed , the delegates separated .
Ashton-under-Ltne . —Numerous Meeting of Ovii . looebbs . —On Friday evening last , a meeting of tit power loom overlookers employed at the mills in this diitrict , was held at the Ashton Hotel , Market Place , for the purpose of discussing the propriety of petitioning Psrliiment for the Ten Hours' Bill . About 120 overleokm were present . Resolutions in favour of the measure were unanimously passed , and a petition embodying them wai adopted , which it was agreed that C . Uiudle > , Es-q ., Sl . P for the borough , should present .
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Sudden Acquisition op 30 , 0007 . —An extraordinary and unexpected instance of good fortune has recent !; occurred to an elderly female , named M'Corniaek , who has for some time resided in Coppics-row , a few doors from ClerkenweU Workhouse , where she has contrived to obtain a decent maintainanoe by vending in her small shop various articles of confectiouarj , The old lady , who is upwards of sixty , on Saturday received a letter from a solicitor , announcing to her tlie death of an at > ed relative , who had resided neat Aberdeen ( of which place Mrs . M'Cormack is a native ) , anil also that she had been bequeathed property to the amount of no less a sum than 4 : 30 , 00 ft Awful Suicide . —The following horrible suicide has just taken place in the Q , uartier de Breda , Paris * . —A female was living in some style under tit protection of a wealthy person , but the gentleman having reason to believe that she was unfaithful , is called upon her and told her that he would h ««
nothing more to do with her . Before she could justnj herself , or utter a remonstrance , the gentleman turned his back and left the room , After a moment ' s pause she ran to the stairs after him , and entreated him to return . " No , no , " cried he , harshly , " all is finished between us , " and he continued to descend The poor girl wrung her hands in despair , and cried , " Ah ! I will be at the bottom before you ' . " And tie was true to her word , for on quitting the house t » found the mangled corpse of his mistress weltering ij blood on the pavement . The wretched girl w thrown herself from the window . Discovery of the Boot of an Isfast is Fueeistrkkt . —The Shod ? of a full-grown . female child was found on Tue ? day evening , about half-past tiW in the passage close to the house , lS 3 . Fleet-street , by police serueant Workman , 66 . It was qw » naked , and is supposed to have been born alive , ami to have been dead two or three days .
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CORN EXCHANGE , Febrcam I . The stands being somewhat heavily filled with fm ' pies , the country markets coming down , and flic F « --pect of future importations somewhat improved , tne oimand for all descriptions of wheat , of home prodiM notwithstanding the attendance of buyers was go ™ j ruled , very heavy , at a decline in the quotations obtain '" on Monday last , of from 4 s to 5 s per quarter , and a l * " ? quantity remained unsold at the close of the market . Although tho actual quantity of foreign wheat on offer *» _ by no means large , that article was a mere drug , anil Is ' - 2 s per quarter lower . Holders , however , were by now ' '; anxious sellers , hence the above abatement was not f * rally submitted to .
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PROVINCIAL MARKETS . Richmond iYorkshire ) Corn Markit , Jan . 3 fl . - * \ only had ti thin supply of grain in our market to-W- " , ' Wheat sold from , 8 s to 10 s 6 d ; oats , 3 s id to U 1 W barley , 5 s to ( id ; beans , lis to 7 s pev bushel . . ( Liverpool Corn Market , Monday . — The arrival * ¦ ' > ileur , « fcc ., from abroad continue on a large scale , l ' , ' , Tuesd' . y to Saturday last inclusive , there wc e reF . ' upwards oi' 4 P ., 400 brls . of flour , 26 . 000 qrs . of Indian' *! " j 13 , 000 brls . of Indian corn meal , 6 U 00 qrs . of wheel . ">? *? 2000 qrs . of beans . On the whole but : i limited bu »" ; ;' has been transacted duriner the nast week in aiivai ' " :
of the grain trade . The majority of holders have f [ ^ pressed the market , but the onlcrs from Ireland lav " £ " * come forward less freely , a general decline has bci-u ^ * mitted to . The business done has been at a n-dii '" "' 5 "' from last Tuesday , of'Jtl to Sd per bushel on whea t , s V ) 2 d per barrel and sack on flour . , , Hull Corn Makket .-AI thisduv ' s market we w >* * large supply of wheat from the fanners , and a gee" « ' * . ' * . of anxiety manifested to realise at the lute liiith «''• ¦ " •' the sales were made at a decline of fully 3-- > to 4 s per qj . - i )| - for best wheats , ami such samples us were out ol l ''" V"i tion were neglected . Xo t aiisai'tioiis in Foreign , iH * ' ^ offered loner . . . l'H .. iv ; it iuwii t » »
,, Birmingham Corn Exchange . —During the 1 " ' H |' ' |' ' week millers would not buy wheat except at a vedw " : W of 2 s to : ts per qr „ which holders were unwilling to > " >" ply with . Malting hurley a drug . . , si Newcastle Corn Market . -This morning the " again a fair supply of wheat , and the millers hoWWM » good stocks , there was only « moderate extent of " lul 1 " - ' less donu at Is to - - 's per qr . decline . , , „ , , „ , Wakefield Cors Market , Friday .-We havea'wf t- ' supply of wheat ami moderate of other articles . ' , ' . , ' , is a general ' disiiu'lina tion evinced to purchase "'"^" tuougli ' offert'd at Is to 2 s decline , , , Manchestek Cobs Market , Saturday . —At our i « - " > " . this uioi-niiiK there was an extremely limited iiiquirj' '' rj' ¦'' wheat , Hilda decline of fully 4 d . per "Olbs , on tl * l ' l ' ous currency must be noted , l'lonr likewise ii ; ,, vcl . V . n very slowly , although fioolv offered at - . i reduction "' ' "'' sack mill bin-el
per . , , Warrixuton Corn- Market , Wednesday . —W > - „ " ] ,. . j | numerous attendance of farmers at the market , : ! , ] ;! l : large supply of uew Wheat , sales of which « ' « ' * ' ! , .,, ; , .,, ' ' Id . per bushel reduction in price , say los . to H '»' " "' ' '¦ '"' ' ' lis . per bushel of " Olbs .
Aim I L'Rinteil By Dol'oal M'Oowan. Of Hi, Great \M'»[/'»[. Street, Llavmarket, In The Citv Of Westmins-Ti-J*' • '. • Y Office, In Tbe Same Stivot And Parish, Tor '"(I-J'Ju
aim i l'rinteil by DOL'OAL M'OOWAN . of Hi , Great \ M' »[/ ' »[ . street , llavmarket , in the Citv of Westmins-ti-j * ' ' . y Office , in tbe same Stivot and Parish , tor '"( i-J'ju
Priutor, Rkaiililis Oxoanuli, Tsq., »- ....
priutor , rKAIililiS OXOANUli , tsq ., » - .,.- ., by William Hewitt , of Xo . 18 . Charles-strcet , ' , ' don-street , Walworth , in the parish of St . M \ i . - ^ j . ington , in the County of Surrey , at tbo Oftiee , - , • Great Windmill-streetjllaymavkot , in the U > 01 01 minster . Saturday , February Ctb , 1 * 1 " .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 6, 1847, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns2_06021847/page/8/
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