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ADDRESS . , , . ,, . 1 . 1 n « despots of the European continent , through their , S fcn atisrd for bloodshed and massacre , have not 55 Shed political liberty , but , in alliance with Popery , cfSK . <* Priestcraft » «» suppressing aU religious 3 ^ therear of the armies of Austria a crowd of Jesuits ' PJLj Germany , dispersing'themselves throughout all - rt-of the fatherland of Protestantism , who now seek , J Wl their craft and wUes , to poison the hearts , and r ^"» oisb the holy flame of freedom in the people . These J v £ & powers of evil are not only suppressing , or persec ^ n'the free C atholic congregations founded since 1844 , 6 £ ifle beginning of the Reformation of tbe nineteenth i -ajaiTi but all enlightened Protestants who will not be t > e Wb ° f Absolutism . The German princes are taking j L these congregations their chapels , extorting large JB 3 of money from them , and visiting them with the
jjflst cruel ana vexauous- interierence—all preparatory ijUs to the absolute probMfon of their worship . in Ansfria the free Catholic congregations have been solved since August , 1 S 51 , when , the Constitution , was jubil ated . The preachers and presiding members have jeen exiled , imprisoned , or driven to the madhouse . Some Rasters have even been publicly flogged , in consequence f f the denunciations of the priests of Rome . The youth r 5 the congregations are not only deprived of the schools , f & ich their fathers had provided for their educations , bnt jje forced into the seminaries of the Jesuits . In Hungary , the South of France , and Italy , the Protesiicis are -persecuted in a similar manner . Ia Transylvania the Unitarian congregations are distr ' -r td .
js England , Popery and Jesuitism make daily progress ; ^ allied with the powers of Absolutism endanger not only jj ijj-oas , but political liberty . Even in the United States { j lrfleriea , tha Catholic hierarchy interfered with tbe government of the people , and with public liberty astir " - Since the perjuries , treason , and massacres of Louis x ' jBolecn in France , the measure of iniquity is fulfilled on Jb European Continent . Right and Justice no longer jflreswv , but tbe arbitrary will and violence of despots iKjitie counsellors leading the ministries bear rule , and ^ yl force is used against religion and progress . The p ^ ind his hierarchy have consecrated the perjury and have hailed
M assacres of the traitor Louis Napoleon , jan m the champion of the Catholic Church , and have fcredto call him the Saviour of religion . The civilised yrions of Europe stand on the brink of a dreadful abyss . I 5 e terrible power of Russia , daily advancing toward lo west , is mainly supported by Popery and Priestcraft , fhich enslave the mind of the people , especially the mind a the yontb , preparing them for the slavery of political aholatism . There is no hope for the political independence ffEaropeif we do not at once break this yoke of Popery ni r . -iestcrait , and clear the path for religions progress . IteBce asd Italy can never regain their liberties without relijioss reformation .
Bnt one people alone cannot break or resist the alliance t JHoperv and Russian despotism . The nations must join in a anion of solidarity for the final struggle with Popery and Priestcraft . Wo must have Unions of all free-souled men , oa the sreat principle of humanity concentrating the inteljsinal and moral power of the people . litre is the greater necessity for this inasmuch as disused Jesuits , in the Protestant churches have , seized with Is spirit of Rome , organised against religions political den 5 i * Bient and liberty " ! No time must be lost—we must ti'ipfsstothis organisation of Priestcraft a mighty organi-3 < on of the intellectual and fr » e religious communities , of fee ffianieipaliiies , and the representatives of independent d ices nations . We must struggle through the Press , aironse public opinion to establish institutions for free elation of the nations in progress and liberty . In the EOEib of July last the undersigned commenced the work of Organisation " , and a Ieading ~ Commiticc was formed in ISEloa for the purpose .
Be sent forth an appeal to all free and noble minded men sai women , to join with this committee against Popery and ifeoktism in the protection of the principle of religions Serty . English committees have been formed , and ladies cdEentlesaentakepartin the work . The free religious tiEOTgations in Germany , France , and America , share in iiegoodwork of tbe religious reformation of thenineieenh rffltnry . Wenowmale public the constitution of onr union , and aj-peaHotheliircral minded men and women of all countries , TbjrecognisethedangeronspositionofEurope , toioinintbis fiance of humanity . We call on all who believe that Poperv and Jesuitism are the roots of spiritual , moral ,
ad social , evil , and the worst enemies of liberty and progress of religious bondage , mainly depend on a perfect or-JHiisatibn tiireBjjriout the world , and consequent ability , wsrever a free religions movement appears , to bring all lie power of such organisation , on one point , in order to trash SBch movement . May wo now leant to unite our ! fionght for humanity and liberty , in the same way as Absolutism and Popery are united " for slavery of thenailose ; and we shall yet be able to break tne power of Pojery and hierarchy—not tho Popery of Rome alone , but & Popery also of Protestant State churches , and raise IB impenetrable barrier against all the power of darkness , cirii or religious , in an intellectual and moral regeneration iitle Hate-is .
STATUTES . General Regulations . 1 . Tie onion for protection of religious Uberty and Re-! iCTs ! : on will bo organised tbronshout all countries . 2 . Tselpnrpose of this union is ( a ) to protect the principle E » i !« : oas liberty against Popery and Absolutism , ( b ) to jraaote reli gious progress . j Tne principles of the union are : ( a ) independence of raj member with respect to his religions faith , ( b ) equal 3 & for all members , of the development of the union ace-a » to progressive humanity . j . ill men and women of every religious conraronity , who £ & e to these principles and work for their realisation , sjsdaded in this as members , ?• Committees are formed from tli 3 members in each 33 & . V .
i . Assoori as a number of Committees in neighbouring }»« s are formed , they unite themselves into a district kk , si : q these form again the union of a country , both rjjreenied j ; T meetings and presiding members , elected hv K Efftinjs , and all committees and congregations form tK 3 £ 2 resaia union represented bv congress and & leatiin " Cvaaittee . ' Social Regidalions . i . Tse Comsitiees and congregations form the basis of ¦ a uinon . S . Alirio '^ ti emanate from them . " r \ - * , h Coiamittee and each larger organisation csiab-^ ss a fad . no J ' - - Be Committees and tbe presiding members of dis-=-r . sun coaatry organisations work by means of the Press , wT / . to cstabhstt institutions for education , to open " n ? al . H : i « orial education . ' kVa j . ' Jls ; ' 35 icn of new members takes place after Sa ec , arat , on of concurrence in the object of tbe
J : ; Tae Committees of a district and a country hold rets & tT * * tbr 0 USlX depulies and elect their P-esiding iir ? f ^\ ? g members direct tbe orsranisation of . ^ f a ^ l the meetings toge ther . 5 t « i „ n !»« ^ of general assemblies must obtain tbe i % » 7 i . tLe 9 0 amuttees and conEreirations of the Union -we they are laws of the Union . ~ " ;• « ,.. "Mc Leading Committee . s ^ l „ Gamulltteei 8 permanent , and new elected from : 7 regol ir Congress . >; . " , dir « ets in the last Court of Appeal the organised ¦ ^¦* pe ( a ) by the Press and pamphlets in different Ian-^ -sagainst t he enemies of religions- freedom and rcli-•^ P'ogress ; ( b ) it sends delegates into the oppressed ^ fS ; ( c ) it treats with the governments , and sseks to 3 , free people in favour of religious liberty in despotic l ^ tks ; ( d ) it maintain s a regular correspondence with ^ JU of the Union , and represents the Union from with"; = ' , «} it establishes-a fund to which the single coui-^ pay a fixed contribution . . ;;*• The leading Committee has the riht to cali together
g :.- «» E tess , as well the regular as tbe extraordinary . ' ^ It is responsible to the Congress , which tubes place £ kfore the first Congress could be held a Provi-J ' -fading Committal formed in Ausinst , 1851 . : t >« , s - alc £ es are to be altered or improved , acsording JjJWaace ? . '•' -Ea-ae of the Provisionary Loading Committee , JOHASXES lioXGE .
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MONDAY , Mat 3 , HOUSE OF LORDS . ~ The motion of Lord Rosse for appointing a Select Committee to inquire into the operation of the Acts relating to Drainage m Ireland as administered by the Board of Works was agreed to . Lord Gbaxvilie asked whether it was the intention of the government to take steps for removing the station of Transatlantic steamers from Liverpool to Galway , as had been reported in the Irish papers when giving an account of a deputation which had waited on the Lord-Lieutenant with that object .
Lord Derby replied that the report in qne ? tion had greatly misrepresented what had fallen from the Lord-Lieutenant , and that the government had no intention at present of removing the station from Liverpool . At the same time the subject was open to inquiry , especially if the submarine telegraph were brought into operation between England and Ireland , but even ' then he could hold out no expectation that Galway would be ; . iore favoured than Limerick . After some farther discussion it was agreed , at tbe suggestion of Lord CiAKKiCABnE , that the memorials addressed to the Treasury on the whole subject should be laid before the house .
Some other business was then despatched , and the house adjourned . HOUSE OF COaIMOSS — Several members presented petitions against the llilitia Bill . New Zbalasd . —Sir 3 . Pakington moved for leave to bring in a bill to grant a representative constitution to tho colony of New Zealand . He bad been induced , he said , to undertake this difficult task , so soon after his accession to office , in consequence of the strong representations Uc had received from persons in this country who took a deep interest in the colony , and he had derived much assistance from the preparations left by his predecessor , from the despatches of Governor Grey , and from suggestions bv tha gentlemen to whom he adverted . lie gave " a brief out ! ine of the history of the colony , and tho circumstances which led to the suspension ( which would cease in March ,
1 S 53 J of the Constitution of 1 S 46 . lie dwelt upon the progress and growing importance of the colony , observing that there was every reason why the colonists should now be entrusted with tho privileges of self-government . Difficulties , however , presented tltemtelves which distinguished this colony from almost every orher dependency ^ the Crown , in its geographical peculiarities , the mode in which it had been settled in detached communities , the very high intellectual grade of the natives , and their extraordinary advance in civilisation . Upon this last point Sir John read from the despatches of Sir G . Grey some remarkable extracts , and he then explained the scheme of the Constitution proposed by the present government , pointing out , as he proceeded , wherein it differed from that designed by Earl Grey . It was their opinion that New
Zealand should be considered as one colony , and that it should be divided into seven provincca , each governed by a superintendent , appointed by the Governor-in-Chjef , with a salary of £ 500 a year , each superintendent to have a Legislative Council of not fewer than nine members , to be entirely elective , the franchise of the electors ( natives not being excluded ) to be as follows : —a freehold worth £ 50 , or a house , if in a town , worth £ 10 a year , if in the country , £ 5 a year , or leasehold property , with an unexpired tV-mi of three year . ? , worth £ 10 a year ; The question whether members of these provincial councils should be paid was left to the Ceniral Legislature . Sir John read a list of the subjects , amounting to fourteen , upon which the provincial councils would be restrained from legislating . The duration of these councils it was proposed to limit to
four years . The Central Legislature would consist of the Go-. ernor-in-Chief . as headf and of two Chambers . In the scheme of Lord Grey the Upper Chamber was to be a representative body ; but there was no precedent in any colony for an elective Upper Chamber , and the present government recommended that the members of the Upper Chamber of tbe Central Legislature should be appointed by the Crown during pleasure . The Lower Chamber was to be elective , the franchise for the constituency the same as that for tho provincial councils . The number of memhers for the Upper Chamber cf tho Central Legislature was to be not less than ten , nor more than fifteen , at tbe discretion of the Governor-in-Chief ; that of tho Lower Chamber not less than twenty-five nor more than forty . Five years was intended to be tbe duration of the Central Parliament , the acts of which would override those of
the provincial legislatures . It was proposed tbat there should bo a civil list ; that £ 12 , 000 a year should be retained , ont of which the salaries of the superintendents should be paid , and that £ 7 , 000 a year should bo reserved for native purposes . All arrangements respecting tbo town lands to be in the hands of the general Legislature . It could not be expected , he observed , that such a measure as this could be final , and changes would be introduced into the bill whereby the local legislature should have full power , from time to time , to enact changes in the Constitut on with the consent of the Crown . It was for tbe house to decide whether this bill camo within the category cf " necessary measures ; " he believed it did ; but if the houso was of a different opinion , the alternative was , it being highly inexpedient to allow tho act of 1 S 4 C to revive , to suspend that constitution for another vcar .
Sir R . Ixotis suggested certain questions , and was of opinion that this was not quite one of the " necessary measures . " Mr . GiAnsroxK Lad not tho slightest hesitation in considering that the measure embodied most valuable principles and believed it would be hailed with gratitude by the colonists . Mr . V . Smith , Mr . Dume , Sir W . Molesworth , and other members , made enrsory remarks upon the measure , which Lord J . Russell trusted would not meet with any considerable opposition , being willing himself to giro it every assistance . After a few words of reply and explanation by Sir J . Pakisgion , leave was given to brine in the bill .
THE MILITIA BILL . On the order of tbe d . iy for going into committee on the Militia Bill , llr . Cobdex moved , as an amendment , that a return of the effective force of the royal navv on the 31 st of March last t e laid upon the tabic , and that the consideration of the bill in committee be postponed until after the production of snch return . Taking exception , on tbe grounds ho stated , to the division upon tbe second reading of this bill , and adverting to the numerous petitions and meetings asainsi it , ho insisted upon his right to provoke a reconsideration of the question , and to urgo the opinion , entertained outofdoors , thatour navy ought tobe sufficient to protect the country against an invasion . From the only source to which he had access , he foand that we had 500 vessels ,
of warbnildmg , inordinary , or . iiloat . He ( Mr . C . ) had served twelve months on the naval committee , and the conclusion he had come to was that those ships which were sent to foreign parts ostensibly for the protection of tho trade of the country , were never at hand when they could be of any use . The forei gn stations were seven in number—viz ., East Indies and China , the Pacific and the West coast of America , the south-east coast of America , tbo south and west coast of Africa , Korth America , and the West Indies , and the Mediterranean . In 1 S 37 the number of ships of war in the E : ist India and China waters was ten : at present it was nineteen . There were , to be sure , three of these on the const of New Zealand ; hut after what had passed that night , respecting the nc * constitution for tbat colony there would be no longer need of more than one in
that quarter . The war-with Burtnah might bo made a pretext for bringing ships from China to the Ray cf Bengal ; but it should be recollected that tho East India Company bad a navy of their own for the protection of their own shores , and that the British fleet in those seas was for the protection of the commerce of England with China . Comparing the cost of that fleet , however , with the value of the protection afforded to that commerce , it would be found that the ' one was wholly disproportioned to the other . The only danger in those watt-rs was from pirates , who always kept in shoal water ; to employ largo vessels for the puriios , e of keeping them in check , was like planting a battery of cannon , for the purpose of repressing pickpockets . 2 ! ot long since 10 , 000 of these people had been destrojed by the English arms and £ 100 , 000
head-money had been paid by the country for the same ; but every man of them was destroyed by small ships , and moreover not a single hand was lost on board their vessels . A considerable number of vessels might therefore , in his ( Mr . Cobden ' s ) opinion , he withdrawn from India and China for the defence ol this country . Tbe next station , the Pacific , showed » large increase in ships since 183 S , and in consequence of the Oregon question . There was also a large increase in the fleet on the River Plate , arising from the war between Buenos Ayres and Monte Video . For six years there had been no fewer than 10 ship of war in tbe Plate , and yat they bad effected no good whatever , the war being brought to a conclusion without their interference , Sow , however , General Rosas was a fugitive , the war was all over , peace was re-established , and there was therefore , no need
of a fleet of ships on thatrivor . Six of the larger vessels could consequently be brought home without inconvenience to the trade ef this country ' ; the remainder would be sufSoient for all useful purposes . The west coast of Africa was the next station , inclusive of the Cape of Good Hope , and iicre the number of ships had been nearly doubled since 1 S 30 . There were now 22 on that station . Ho ( Mr . C . ) would bring home every one of them which the country was not compelled to keep there by treaties with other powers . ( Hear . ) They did no good , at least on the wost coast of Africa ; and if their operations were extended to the coast of Brazil , be feared they did but aggravate the evils of slavery rather than check its course . At the Cape of Good Hope thc «> were nine vessels , which ho would not reinov 3 unul the IvnfhV war was terminated . On the North American and We > t Indian station there were thirteen ships ; though it was i erfectly preposterous to keep a sinalo ship there at all . In fact ' . t would b- a : i insult to the United States to send a ship
of war into its harbours to protect tha trade of England ; while , f-s regarded the West Indies , so long as this conniry did not interfere on behalf of the savage Kinj ; of Mosquito , tiie trade was of the character of a coasting trade on the coast of England . In any case , however , nothing could be more useless than a line-o ' f-battle ship among these islands . He would , therefore , withdraw four out of the thirteen on the ttition , and he would let them be of the larger size , i Hear ; hear . ) The last station was the Mediterranean . There were nineteen ships on that station , though Sir George Cockbuni had stated tbat six frigates and one line-of-battle shipwere as large a force as would be requisite there in time of peace . There were now five or six lmc-of-battle ships in those waters , and a number of frigates and smaller vessels . Admiral Dundas , however , who commanded , consequently the largest concentrated British fleet at present in cxistance , was by the last accounts sailing from Malta to Cephalonia and Smyrna . Could tbe dread of invasion , then , be considered as sincere ,
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when this fleet was kept 1 , 200 miles off these shores doing nothing ? Admiral Dundas was ^ sunning himself in the Mediterranean ; and yet the house was told the Channel was undefended . Ten of these ships should be brought homo and nine left . This would be three more than Sir George Cockburn said was necessary . He ( Mr . Cohden ) did not ask that they should be dismantled or paid off , but simply that they should be employed to repel the invasion which hon . gentlemen pretended to fear , and that they should be stationed at Spithead , Cork , or Plymouth , rather than cruising idly in the Mediterranean . Tho country was told that it was liable to war with France at any moment ; but the people did not believe it . In fact , history proved that every war between the two countries was preceded bv a long admonition . In 1702 , for instance—though tho
English ambassador at the Court of France had been withdrawn in August upon the death of the French King—tho French ambassador , though deprived of his official character , remained in England until the following January , making every possible effort to avert hostilities ; and it was only in February , six months aft er the rupture , that war was declared . Again , at the time of the treaty of Amiens , though no one believed it would l ; : st , yet , notwithstanding that , on the Sth of March , 1803 , a lloyal message was delivered to the house tantamount to a declaration of war , and although on the 13 th of March Bonaparte publicly insulted Lord Whitworth , the English ambassador in Paris , it was May before a collision between the two countries actuall y took place . It was not a light matter to rush into hostilities with such a country as England . It was said , however , bv
some that the present ruler would rush into any foolish scheme to maintain his power . But if success was the test of merit , then Louis Hapoleon had not shown himself a fool . Whatever might be said of his moral qualities , he was no blockhead . ( Hear . ) Louis Napoleon had a larger revenue than the Queen , and , therefore , more at stake ; and yet they were told he would peril all , by an attack on England . ( Hear . ) Ho had written to a French gentleman for facts ' to confront what he considered to be the most silly panic that had ever been raised . His answer was " If Louis Napoleon made war , and succeeded , his generals would eclipse him—if his generals failed , they would ruin him . " He could add nothing to this—it spoke for itself . Wo had heard of much astute diplomacy , with one power and another by Louis Napoleon—did that show that Louis Napoleon was the senseless blockhead which it pleased some parties to represent him ? Ho had heard , with amazement , experienced statesmen talk of the probabilit y of invading this country from Cherbourg with 00 , 000 men . No wonder
Lord Derby found it necessary to rout out the old statesmen , and put others in their stead . If he wcro upon a committee . on our national defences , he would call the Adjutant General before them to say what equipment would 00 , 000 hostile soldiers require who were to come over here in the face of our navy ? What number of horses would be required—where were they to be found or caught—what number of cannon would be wanted , and how to be got over here ? It was mockery to talk of an invasion . ( Hear . ) Bat it was said that steam had made invasion more easy . Why , what country had received so much benefit from steam as England . * o country had gained an advantage from steam to the extent that England had . If facility for invasion was Riven by steam it also gave England the pov . er cf invading hostile coasts and blockading foreign hostile ports ( Hear , hear ) This was an advantage which sailing vessels did not possess . It was an advantage which Aelson never haa when he was blockading the French coasts . We had a larger power oi steam than all tho Continent of Europe put together . We were hniM . n »
twice as many steamers as aU tho Continent possessed . Tho hon . member hero read several extracts to prove the large amount of steam-power possessed by England , which in case of need might be made available for the defence of the country . One of tho extracts stated that as we had ten times as many steamers as France , in a few months after war was declared there would not bo a single French merchant vessel that would not bo our prize . Did hon . members think tbat Louis Napoleon was ignorant of these facts ? It was , therefore , absurb to say we must put ourselves under drill for a militia , because steam had given France such an advantage over us . No greater absurdity could be heard than that , and bo hoped it would be properly scouted in that houso . We had , he verily believed , twenty-horse power of steam for one-horse steam power possesoed by France . Then we had a complete chain of railway : " , which would very much facilitate the transmission of troops , and would render invasion more difficult aud dangerous . What would have required twenty days' march in times of turnpike roads might now be done in twelve hours
by the aid of railroads , Ho was ashamed to pursue this topic further . There was scarcel y a man of sense out of the bouse who placed any faith inthe statement of a French invasion . ( Liugbter . ) Hon . gentlemen might laugh , but ho could answer for the facts ho stated in the circle of society with which he was best / acquainted . He begged pardon of the French nation and the English people for dwelling on this subject , and for treating it seriously . ( Hear , hear . If ships were to be brought home , ho hoped they would not bo brousht homo in such a way as to give just alarm and offence to Franco . Ho did not believe that tbe statements of the progress of peace doctrines were mero clap-traps , as some had said . II © bad a full and complete conviction that the tendency of the age and tbe country was towards poace , and he should oppose the Milit a ! Bill by all means in his power , because no facts had been brought forward to convince him of the necessity of it . He hoped , therefore , the house would agree to the return for which he moved .
The amendment was seconded by Mr . Anperson , who dwelt at some length upon the resources to be found in our mercantile steam navy . Mr . Stafford , protesting against Mr . Cobden ' s mode of explaining away a majority of that house , replied briefly to his arguments ; and , with respect to the amondment , which he opposed , observed that it had been repeatedly brought forward , in different shapes , and it had always been held that to grant such returns would be bighly detrimental to the public service . Mr . Connr , though ho agreed that tho question of our
military defences against an invasion shou'd not be separated from that of our naval force , could not concur with Mr . Cobden that a militia bill oujrht fo be postponed until these returns wero furnished . From a comparison between the navies of England and France , their respective force and distribution , ho inferred that we should not trust exclusively to our ships for the defence of our shores . It was for this reason that he supported a militia bill , which he preferred to an increase of our regular army . At the same time , ho hoped that a respectable squadron of ships of war would be maintained on the homo station .
_ Mr . Carteb , in a maiden speech , supported tho motion ; lifting up his voice , he said , the first time in that house , in f ivour of peace and against the large establishments , which had been too long kept up . Mr . Boloero said , the amendment pretended one thing and meant another . The information could be got from the " Navy List - , " the real object was delay . Ho examined various suggestions auxiliary to the bill , and assigned several reasons why the regular army should be increased by 10 , 000 or 15 , 000 men . Mr . Bright maintained that the object of the motion was not delay , but to placo before the house facts which would enable it to decide upon tho expediency of any further expenditure upon our military establishments . The bill , he contended , was hostile to the industry of the country ,
injurious to freedom , and there was no interest which tho , country cared for that would not be prejudiced by a militia " unless it was proved to be absolutely necessary to the safety of the country . If there was any new danger , where was it ? If they looked back at tho events of the last thirty years in France , they would see tbat there had not been the slichtest manifestation of any hostile feeling on the part of France . Even under the most recont change —the dictatorship of Louis Napoleon , not a shadow of suspicion could be east upon the acts or proceedings of the French authorities ; nor had there heen the slightest retaliation by the French press upon tbe daily attacks of many months past that had emanated from the British press . He would admit that Louis Napoleon was shrewd , cool , calculating , and unscrupulous ; but he was approved
by the people of France in tho belief tbat ho would seeure to that country temporary rcposo . He would even admit that they did not like the government of Louis Napoleon ; but that repose which the French people so much coverted would not last an hour after he had expressed an intention to head a marauding or piratical expedition to England . Either there must be a war of invasion or a piratical night invasion in contemplation . In the former case there must , according to the usages of civilised nations—if any nation going to war could be civilised—there must be negociations and preliminary arrangements , so as to givo time for preparation for resistance . The noble lord the member for Tiverton , on the contrary , had assumed that Louis Napoleon might land 50 , 000 or 60 , 000 men on the English coast in the course of a sin / rle night . He asked whether there
could be glory connected with such a piratical expedition as thoy appeared to fear ? There could be no glory to induce the French to attack England ; and surely no one could for a moment entertain the notion that there could be anything like tbo hope of conquest to induce them to make war upon England , Was not the panic created from such an anticipation , therefore , the most senseless and unfounded 1 The noble lord the member for Tiverton , when he . spoke of 00 , 000 Frenchmen landing upon the shores of England , m ade a statement which , coming from a statesman like the noble lord , was utterly incredible and unworthy of him . But even admitting that there was the smallest danger of this piratical expedition , how did they think their proposed militia could contend acainst it ? Why , they appeared to forcet all their historical glories and characteristic gallantry when legislating on snch a subject . If they passed
this Militia Bill , they might rely upon it they would have to make greater reductions in their expenditure . They Wf re taking a course which they would never dream of taking but that they were moved to it by a panic which had no nearly subsided . He believed that the country was indebted to the noblo lord the member for Tiverton for this bill . The noble lord was no authority with him ( Mr . B . ) on questions of this nature . ( Hear , hear . ) Tho house might think tbe noble lord a much better authority on this subject than he was . ( Loud cries of " hear , hear . " ) The noble lord appeared to have the power , as ho certainly had the disposition , to bully or cajole some party or another , ( " Oh , oh . " ) He might be sneered at as one of the ' « peace party , " but , nevertheless , ho would offer his most strenuous opposition to every stage of the bill now before them .
Mr . Macgregok moved the adjournment of the debate , amid loud cries of " Oh , oh , " and " divide . " Mr . Whiieside , in replying to Mr Cobden and Mr . Bright , observed that no apprehension was entertained of the French people , who might be satisfied with their ruler ; but it was , as declared by Pitt in defending the Militia Bill of 1 S 02 , because the French were essentially a military power , and that power was centred in one man . He vindi-
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cated with great spirit and animation tho policy of this measure , which was , he said , essentially peaceful , and intended solely for self-defence . Mr . Macorboor again moved the adjournment of the house , but the motion was negatived by 291 against 08 . The proposition being still pressed , tbe Chancellor of the Exchequer gave way , and the debate was adjourned . The other business having been disposed of , the house adjourned at one o ' clock . TUESDAY , Mat 4 . HOUSE OF LORDS . —The Colonial Bishops Bill was read a second time , on tho motion of tho Archbishop of Canterbury . , , T j ,. , Jswisu Dbauitjties . —Lord LrNnnimsr moved for leave to introduce a bill to abolish certain disabilities imposed b y the statute of tbe 0 th of Geo , I . Ho had been induced to consider this question on general grounds , but public attention had recently been drawn to it by a decision of tho Court of Exchequer . leasure
Lord Campbell having expressed the p ho felt at the motion , , , ,,,,,, Lord Dbrbt hoped that tho houso would not be led away from tbe general question info a discussion or . Jewish disabilities . Ha did "ot question the ri ght of Lord . Lyndhurst to introduce such a measure on general grounds , but he thought it unfortunate that he had chosen tho present moment for bringing it iorwm ) , when the particular case to wbich he had alluded was still unsettled . With respect to that case , the go vernment thought that , if Mr . Alderman Salomons presented a petition representin g tho grievances to which ho was actually subjected after his appeal was decided , lie would be fairly entitled to an actof indemnity . The Marquis ofLAKsnowKE hoped . that Lord Lyudhurst would bring forward his . bill at once , independently of all allusions totho case of Mr . Alderman Salomons . • After some further discussion the bill was read a first time . . ... • The houso then adjourned .
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THE . MILITIA BILL ¦ was resumed by Captain Scobeu , who . argued . tb . 'it ^ the command-of tho sea gave tho nation which , possessed it ample means both of attack and defence ; and he . suggested , if the apprehension of invasion was real , that an addition should bo mailo to our navy of twenty-four , large steamers , to be manned by 8 , 000 men from line-of-battlo ships , a . class of vessels unfit for the purpose ; . and that steamers should be distributed along our coasts ; this , with the completion of our harbours of defence , diverting to that object the sum required for the militia , he contended , would secure England against invasion , with the present means of France .
Sir II . Yerney , without underrating the efficiency and power of our navy , insisted that it was absolutely necessary to be prepared if an enemy , by any misfortune should effect a landing . He denied that a militia was , as had been alleged , hateful to the people of this country , and ho disputed the estimate piveri by past speakers of military morals . Mr . G . Berkeley supported the measure as a most constitutional one , and as providing a most appropriate force , Sir De Lacy Evans explained some statements he had made , which had been misunderstood , and reiterated his opinion ^ that our regular military force had been underrated , and that of France over-estimated . He argued that the French available army did not amount to more than 100 , 000 fighting men , without allowing for indispensable garrisons ; he did not believe that France could spare more than 30 , 000 men for foreign service . He still thought the force proposed to be raised an illusory ono ; but of the two bills he preferred tbat of tbe late government .
Major Berssford , in reply to Sir De Lacy Evans , showed from official returns that ho had exaggerated the amount of regulars we could bring into the field to repel an invasion ; that the infantry and artillery numbered 31143 , or deducting one-fifth for non-efficient , and adding 7 , 750 pensioners , 34 , 280 rank and file ; that 28 , 000 must be deducted for garrisons and dockyards , which would leave available for fieldservice only 6 . 280 , and adding 4 , 284 cavalry and sappers and minors , 10 , 564 rank and file only to meet an invading force , in the present feeling of the house , an increase of the regular army could not be maintained , whilst , in point of expense , 15 . 000 regular troops would cost ^ OOO . OOO the first year , and £ 52-5 , 000 afterwards , whereas the estimate for the whole cost of the militia was only £ 350 , 000 the first year . There was every chance , he observed , that this species offeree would prove very available , and so far from its superseding tho regular army , it would be , as it had been , a nursery for it ,
Mr . Macoregor opposed the bill , conceiving that a militia force was unnecessary , looking at the state of the ' eontinent of Europe , where all tbe military powers were diminishing their armies under the pressure of financial embarrassment . Our home force might be augmented by 12 , 000 troops from the colonics , whilst our steam and sailing ships of war would defeat the naval armaments of the world . If an additional land force was required ,, it would be better to increase our regular army , Sir F . Baring could not vote for the amendment , first , because he objected to the returns moved for on the grounds assigned by Mr . Stafford . That , however , was not the real to
question ; Mr . Cobden ^ had avowed that bis object was defeat this measure . The real question before the house was , whether our defences were sufficient j and his opinion upon that point concurred with the opinions of the present and past governments . He admitted that it was tbe interest of every country to remain at peace . He might adroit all that had been allegedly Mr . Bright , yet he was afraid he could not derive much consolation from his assurance that it was impossible that France could have any notion of invading us under any circumstances j and he would much rather rely upon the fact that we were in a situation to defend ourselves .
Mr . Hume supported tho amendment , the adoption of which , ho admitted , would postpone the bill , which it was his objectto do until the unfortunate panic had subsided , tho ground of which he had sought in vain when the first bill was introduced . In common with Sir . De Licy Evans , ho considered that tho disposable military force of France had been exaggerated , and our own resources for defence , military as well ns naval , under estimated . He endeavoured to show , from figured statements , that wo had a force far greater than England ever had , and , as he mainfaincd , greater than it ought to have , there being at present not loss than 180 , 000 men in arms , regulars and irregulars , ready for service .
Mr . Chao tebis expressed his astonishment at the selfconfident manner in which Mr , Hume and his friends promulgated their opinons upon military matters , as if thoy possessed a monopoly of professional knowledge . Ho ( Mr . Charteris ) had not the fame confidence in his own judgment in these matters , upon which he deferred to military men ; and he believed , moreover , there was a strong feeling in the public mind that our defences should be made more secure . He hoped , therefore , that the house would go into committee on the bill . Mr . Mitchell denied that there wasany indisposition on the part of tho house to grant an increase of our regular force , if necessary ; if , therefore , an augmentation of our
military defence was called for , ifc should be done by an addition to our standing army . He should give his determined opposition to this bill , which , as he alleged , would work gross injustice and oppression . Mr . Cowpe ' u observed that very high authorities , both French and English , had declared that invasion was not physically impossible or improbable , jaud the Duke of Wellington had required 150 , 000 trained troops to make tbo defences of the country secure , Although he had full confidence in the valour and skill of our navy , he would rather not trust to one mode of defence . There was much in the bill of which he did not approve , but he supported it in order-to'obtain an addition to our land defences , thinking that'thereby ho "should besOnaintain tho interests of
peace . Mr . Guy said , the first question was whether there was any danger of invasion , and ho believed this country never was so far from such a danger as at present . The second question was , supposing there was any reason to fear such an event , was this th © be-st method of defence , and he had not heard any one who pretended tbat it was . Lord Palmehston , having been alluded to frequently during this debate , could only in reply to these allusions , meet assertion by counter-assertion , and opinion by opinion . The hon . member for Manchester and the hon . member for the West Riding are firmly convinced that an invasion of this country by the forces of France is utterly impossible , and , believing that to be impossible , they think ifc tbe height of absurdity for this country tomako any preparation to guard against an impossible event . I
think , on tbe contrary , such an event in certain cases possible , to use no stronger word , and I think it tho duty of the country to make preparation to guard against such a danger . ( Hear , ) Tho country will jadgo between those lion , gentlemen and me . ( Hear , hear . ) If I am wrong , and if the advice I g ive is followed , at all events tho country is safe . ( Loud cheers . ) If they aro wrong , and tho advice they give is followed , the country may be ruined . ( Renewed cheers . ) They dispute authority - , they will not receive the opinion of officers of great experience , of sailors who understand their profession , of men who have practically faced the danger , which they call on this country to provide against . These gentlemen , whoso habits of life have been conversant with' the peaceful arts , with manufactures and industry , who know nothing of war or
the chances of war —( cheers)—who know nothing of the means by which war is carried on , or by which ifc is resisted—these gentlemen wish to lull the country into a feeling of security , and to prevent it from tailing any means to provide for its defence . ( Cheers . ) But they ba-e disputed the English authorities . Wc have hwd just uow from . an hon , friend of mine that tbe opinions of foreign authorities correspond exactly with those of the English authorities . But 1 have heard an opinion expressed " by a very high foreign authority bearing upon this question , I have heard , and I believe it , that the lato King of tho French , when be visited this country after that dispute which arose upon tho question about Tahiti—and it is not inopportune or irrovalcnt to remind the house that upon
that occasion , when , this country was on tho point of being engaged totally unprepared in war , that the men who were the loudest in those declamations tbat wore likely to bring on a rupture wore tho very men who are now preaching peace —( great cheering from the ministerial side ) , —I have heard , I say , that upon that occasion tho lung of tho French , rejoicing in the peaceful termination of that dispute , said , however , that ho had been told by his generals at the time that if a rupture had taken place they would have undertaken that within a week they would have been in London . ( Hear , hear . ) That may have some weight with those who despise the opinions of English generals and-admirals . ( Hear , hear . ) My honourable friend , a former Secretary to tho Admiralty , is supposed to havo stated that tho French have in tbe Channel a force stronger than we could at the present time muster there .
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My honourable friend did not state that . What he said , I apprehend , was this—tbat the French , by tbe means thoy havo of easily transmitting from the Mediterranean either the crews of the vessels they havo there , or the ships themselves , would have the opportunityand means , within a very short period of time , of placing in the Channel a superior force than we , in the outset of the war , should ba able to collect . ( Hear , hear . ) I have been supposed to say that the expense of 15 , 000 rc » ti ) ar troops would not be greater than that of 80 , 000 militiamen , and I think my Honourable friend who made that allusion just now , seemed WWT ! , Wlth , his question the expense of the ballot , so am • tllis s-That tho annual cost of maintaining ih « -m ! ! i ! amon . durinSthe twenty or twenty-eight days InitT m ™ ' 'll nodan ' lexercised would hot bo greater 16000 reffi ^ 8 ht bo inc «™ of mainaining lo . vw regular troops all t . hi > v „ n ,. ™ h „„ ditw . is mv
, meS ? of ° de fenCo if ccntl , i ^ te better to ' our contingent SSS ^ 'wiSff . 'iS nVt ° , T ° ^ £ l S regular troons BnV , » ' i lj addin " > ) t 0 tne mtMO Ly whe ' nthi ? L- c \ a " 2 ^! ° *[{•» «« « h "" "J the f , rco which the govern n on tI ? ifn thC Gom"m ^ b defence of the country . lS , . tS ;« e 8 S ! UT , for fcho . yielded to those very Lr » 2 J $ „ ^ „ S ^ m my honourable friend the merabeHov tU ™ Wo 4 SJ ^ S others , toreducethe wijr ItoJ ^ i ^ rtfaRS ^ ffi ^ sufficient , from time to time , for the immediate omcrSS would btheir tions of
o expecta success of a moiion of this Kind , if the government had proposed an addition o 20 000 or 30 , 000 men to the regular army and at the end of ' two years they had been able to say- " You obtained this force under tho panic of invasion ; there has been no invasion , and you ought no longer to contin ; ie an expense , which experience has proved to bo wholly unnecessary ? " ( Hear , hear . ) I havo the greatest possible respect for opinions wbich arc sincere , and are founded upon deep conviction , and therefore lam far from thinking with anything like disrespect of those opinions which 1 believe to bo at the bottom of much
of the opposition which has been given to tho motion now under discussion . ( Hoar . ) Whose opinions and convictions have not been fully and broadly stated bv those who have taken part in this debate ; but they have been broadly and tuliy stated in a p-mphlot I hold in my hand , and which is not unworth y the consideration of gentlemen who have turned their attention to this subject . It is a pamphlet ably written—written evidontly with a deep and serious conviction of tho principle therein laid down—that it is contrary to the Christian religion to do violence to any man , even to your enemy . ( Hear . ) The object of this pamphlet , then , ts to show that it is tbe Christian duty of this country to he conquered b y France . ( Cheers and great laughter . ) It is in tho shape of a dialogue , exceedingly amusing , between gentlemen engaged in a rifle club or in
toe uuty ot soldiers-a very odd dutv of soldiers certainlybut one of the speakers in this dialogue paints in very vivid colours the results of an unopposed invasion . Ho says " I grant you 250 , 000 men may come over from Franco to this country . I said that 50 , 000 or 00 , 000 men might come , but the writer of this pamphlet goes far beyond my calculation- ^ Iaugh ) -but he says , " they will como unopposed . they will take possession of London , they will seize the Bank , where they will not find 418 , 000 , 000 , but they will levy contributions on all the inhabitants of London- * - ( laughtcr ) -Parliament will be swept away ; tho courts of justice wiU bo abolished ; the French generals will issue edicts ; there will be a new Parliament , consisting of i-renchmen- ( roars of la \ jghter ) -the Code Napoleon will be bstituted for the law
su of England- (! aughter ) -the Sovereign will live like a private individual in Scotland —( great laughter ) -the government of course will bo annihilated , the country will be entirely governed by this French army who is to invade it ; hut" says tho writer , " what does it signify ? - ( grcat laughter ) -we shall go on working our n ) ills- ( great ironical cheering from tho Ministerial side , and counter-cheers)—wo shall stand behind our counters and sell our wares in our shops- ( cheering continued)—people must eat , they will want clothing , we shall supply them with their wants , and we shall go on making money . " ( Groat cheering and laughter ) One might say , if that event should ever happen to those gentlemen who made money they might find an unhappy application to themselves of those very well-known
lines" Sic vosnon vobis mellificatis apes , Sic vosnon vobis vellera fertis oves -, ' ¦ ( "hear , hear , " and laughter)—and tho sheep would not fail to bo eaten up by the wolves . ( Hear , hear . ) Then this pamphlet goes on to say that that state of things would astonish the whole world . ( " Hear , hear , " and laughter . ) At first the French would think there was an ambush laid for them ; they would creep on , no ambush would be discovered ; and then there would be among those 250 , 000 men , some of Christian feeling and deep reflection , who would begin to think of the wonderful spectacle of a nation without rosistftuoD to a foreign foo ; and in the course of time , after some fifty or more millions sterling had been removed from this country to France , tho French would be so terribly ashamed of their position —( great laughter )—
of the very ridiculous position in which they had placed themselves—that they would all go back to France and leave this country to its own resources ; nay , so deeply would tho sense of their ridiculous position he impressed on their minds—and we know that tho French people are most susceptible of ridicule *» that they would offer to send us back those £ 50 , 000 , 000 sterling which they had taken from our bankers , merchants , and tradesmen ; and then they would bo done again ; we should show them a more glorious example—wo should magnanimously refuse to take it . ( Roars of laughter . ) Yet " ! firmly believe this is written ia sincere and sober earnest , and not at all in the spirit of ridicule . ( A laugh . ) My hon . friend may laugh , but , if he will read the pamphlet , he will see there is throughout a tone of sober seriousness , which convinces me that those
who wrote it aro , in point of fact , that party at whoso instigation much of the opposition made to this measure ia raised . Now , then , the house and the country are to determine between two alternatives—whether they will , aa required by the party from whom this pamphlet emanates , voluntary submit this country to the miseries and iniquities—for those aro the words used—of a conquest by France as a just atonement for the sins of this country has in former times committed by waging war—for that is the ground on which this proceeding is urged —( hear , hear )—tbo country and Parliament , I say , nro to determine whether they will become tho victims of that system of submission , which is required by those whose organs , I must suppose and believe , are resisting this measure in this house—or whether they are still sufficiently wedded
to their ancient notions of independence and self-vindication which would lead them to resist a foreign invrtder and provide all necessary means by which , if that invasion of the country should every happen , it might bo sufficiently repelled . ( Loud cheers . ) Mr , Warubt was astonished that tho noble lord , with his gigantic powers of intellect , should have descended to quote such despicable trash . ( "Hear , hear , " and laughter , ) The noblo lord had not told them who was the publisher of the statement he had quoted , nov by whom it was written . He ( Mr . Wakley ) suspected it was published at Highgate , where there was an admirable asylum for idiots . He begged tho noblo lord to maintain his hitherto exalted character , , and not to descend for one moment to give credit to such . monstrous absurd statements as that be had given them to- ¦ night . When the noble lord spoke of tho working of the s mills , there was a loud cheer opposite ; and there was no » misunderstanding it . It was an ironical cheer at thee word mill . Why , there was something more powerful inn
the operations of the mills than some of them , gave thetaa credit for , What had thoy done ? Why , they had ground d tbo party of Protectionists into a body of Free Traders . s . ( Cheers and laughter . ) They might make wry faces aboutit it , and the alteration miehfc have been remarkably ! disa-agreeable and torturing ; but , nevertheless , it was a fact . it . If they wanted any proof , ho would point to the budget ofof Friday night . Yes , it w . is the workers of tbe mills whoio had done ibis , and who , ho believed , had in a great mea-asuro saved this country from convulsions . ( Hear , hoar . }' . ) Why , they did not repudiate their master and teacher , r , Richard Cobden , a greater man than any of them . ( A ' A laugh . ) There was not ono on tho other side of the house se who would feel that to be an offensive remark . He ( Mr . lr . Wakley ) said Mr . Cobden was ono of the greatest mensn that ever lived . ( Laughter . ) And now that they were hiaiia disciples —( laughter and cheers . )—he did not expect this Of Of them ; ho did not expect that they would be ungrateful , tl . Don't bo unmindful in future of your teacher and mentor , » r Richard Cobden . ( Loud laughter . )
Col . Thompson cautioned the house against being misleded by the pamphlet to which the noble lord bad alluded , for it it was by no mean * certain that ifc was not by the authors of of "Punch . " ( "Hear , " and a laugh . ) Certainly , the amiable lie and honest supporters of the doctrines of universal peacoacei would never have written anything so caculated to bring disdiscredit upon their views . ( Bear , bear . ) Mr . H . Dbummosd congratulated the house on the ckauCtuCd of having more " Punches" in the house ; for the printer olr oil the pamohlefc to which the noble lord had referred was nowow a candidate for the vacant seat of Mr . Fox Maule , at Pertbrthl ( Laughter . ) He ( Mr . Dnimmond ) had no love either for ibr n standing army or for a militia ; and he shou Id have beebeen better p leased if the noble lord at tbe head of the goveraerm raent—having been s min ? six weeks upon this egg , which bh hi
had only half-hatched—bad given them a measure . of defene ence better suited to the circumstances of the country . But thi thii was the only measure which those charged with tbe nationiionn defences had proposed , and tha only question was whethaitbai they would accept it or remain undefended . ( Cheers . ) . ) the Peace Society would enter into a treaty with the Pr < Pr « sidont of France only to go up the Mersey instead of tbf tbt Thames , he was not quite certain whether he should ncd n « be inclined to votoagainst-tho hill . ( Loud laughter . ) W W were much in the condition of a great , overgrown , spouoonti bo v of whom ono said , "I wish somebody would givo the thiii fellow a good licking . " ( Laughter . ) lie was inclined ted l think that a good licking would do us a great deal of goo < gooo <
( Laughter , ) Ho thought that tho first time an invaairamtt irmv ° eot near London those mills which bad done suo sum wonders would cease to work . ( Cheers . ) The hon . ge gC 3 tIonian ( Mr . Wakley ) said they must bo guided entirely lely II / ho great constituencies . Ho ( Mr . Drurmnond ) wished ncd w could however , have a great exhibition of morals . In win will a situation would tbe City of London be ! Ho said nofchiothii of Fiiisburv . ( Cheers . ) Had tho hon . gentleman ne \ new houoht a bit of coffee , of tea , of butter , or bread intlintll neighbourhood ? ( Loud laughter , ) The hon . gentlen . tlenT barf shown that there was no city in Europe in which thih th \ was such a vast amount of fraud as { amongst the tradesndesDD of their enlig htened constituencies . ( Cheers . )
Lord J . Manners urged the house to reject tho ame am « ment . If this mitigated measure were rejected , ' tho old » old I litia Bill must come into operation . Lord John Russeii , could not yoto for tho ami amm
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