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sition . The government—the Whig government—( groans and hisses ) — opposed parliamentary reform ; but parliamentary reform the meeting were pledged to their consciences and to their country to stand by and promote ; and , therefore , they could not act with the government . The government opposed financial reform ; hut the meeting beins pledged to stand _ hy nnd promote it » could not told communion with such a government . The government resisted judicial reform and colonial reform ; but the meeting being pledged to parliamentary reform , which included ' within it both judicial and colonial reform , could not hold anything but distinct opposition to a government that % ras pledged against everything
that came under the category of parliamentary reform Thore was ono mombor of the government , however—Lord Palmersto : i—of whom he must be allowed to speak in terms of jrreat respect , and who at least had kept the character of the government abore the disgrace and degradation of brooming an accomplice to " the tyranny of the rest of Europe in its foreign policy . * ( Hear , hear . ) lie had never allowed himself , by mistake , in haste , or in any other way , to call the most glorious struggle that had l » ecn made in the world for centuries past , " an in surrcction ; " but he had called it" the war between Hungary and Austria . " ( loud and continued cheering . ) And were they aware that at this very moment an intrisuc was soinst on , fostered by the
" criminals who were ejected from their own country through the revolution which their own oppression had produced—fostered by the Metternichs of llnrope —( groans)—an intrigue—he would not say among Lord Palmcrston ' s colleagues , bat directed to undermine his influence with his colleagues , for the purpose of substituting some other foreign minister of a Mettcraich choice —( renewed groans and hisses)—and whom , therefore , the Metternich class might think fitter to administer the foreign department in a Whig government than Lord Talmerston . lie mighfbe asked why , then , did Xord Palmorston not throw himself upon the British people for support . The time was not come yet ; but if Lord Pahnerston was what he ( Lord Nugent )
hoped and believed him to be , the time was not far distant when they would sec the result of the struggle between that able and enlightened statesman and other individuals of a very different character . ( Cheers . ) And in the meantime , in that confidence , he would say , " TJp with Lord Palmcrston and down vith the intrig uers . " ( Loud and continued cheering and waving of hats . ) Let them not forget the cause in which they had met that night , when they returned home with the din of cheers in their ears , but let them recollect that that was but the beginning of a great combination which they must carry on with an eve that never slumbered—with a heart that never quailed , and a determination that never paused till they had obtained an entire , radical , and unirersal reform . ( Cheers . ) He was not one
of those who was afraid of seeing tho venerable institutions of the country overthrown by revolution . ( A laugh . ) Hut there was a class which he feared much more'than the most ardent of reformers—he alluded to the class of alarmists , which often did more to obstruct the prosperity and even endanger the safety of a free country than any other section of the cominanitr . An old friend of his , Mr . Walter Savage I / mdor , in one of his beautiful imaginary dialogues between Newton and Locke upon the panic fears of men , had the following : —Jfewton said , "Jklr . Locke , after all , men have their panic fears like children . The answer of Mr . Locke is , " Yes , Sir Isaac , but with this remarkablo difference—children fear to be led into the dark , but men fear to be led into the light . " ( Gheers . ) Sow , something had been said about the natural
avistocracy of a country . There was an aristocracy which lerevered ; and * that was the aristocracy of character , of reputation , and ability , and of honesty—( cheers)—ay . and of wealth , too , combined ; and these were the real strength and glory of a country . The House of Commons should represent and exhibit the feelings of the people . Formed it was in the ancient times of the constitution , reared it was in the soil . Its roots sprung from the soil , and were nourished liy it , awl it wouM yet grow up tho glory and the ornament of the soil on which it stood . It wanted now to spread out its roots ; if it were confined and cut off from the soil from which it springs ,
the plant would wither and die . ( Loud cheers . ) Air . E . Muix considered that every subject of the realm , contributing to the support of its civil and political institutions , was entitled at least to an elementary share of political power ; and he therefore gave in his humble but hearty adhesion to this movement . After a few other observations , which Tvero delivered in a low tone , and were inaudible to the great body of the mcetinjr , the impatient interruption of the audience in the upper boxes and galleries prevented Mr . Miall from proceeding ; and , after expressing his warm concurrence in the objects of the association , he resumed his seat .
Hr . Fearcus CCosxok 01 rising , was received with loud and rapturous applause from all parts of the house . He said that the noble lord ( Xugent ) had reminded them of the old proverb , " That-when tad men conspire good men combine . " And that night's meeting would teach the few conspirators , who had so long trafficked upon their disunion , that there was now such a combination of good men as would compel the conspirators to yield to their just demands . ( Loud cheers . ) lie presumed that that was the bespeak , of L ovd John Busse . 'l —( hisses )—for developing that pressure from without bv which alone the noble lord could be
compelled to make those concessions which the progressive mind of the age demanded . ( Cheers . ) But the greatest delight that he derived from that gathering was , because it afforded him and his Chartist- brethren , with whom he had so long cooperated , and would still co-operate —( loud cheers)—because it afforded him and them the best opportunity of dissipating those prejudices which had so lor . g and so injuriously placed mental and manual labour in deadly antagonism ; and he desired to impress -upon the chairman , the council , and the meeting , that if this movement had been got up for the mere purpose of creating a union between the money-lord employer and the labourer , he should lave opposed it with . ill his might , because ,
whatever might he the consequence to himself , he never would be a party to a deception , and because he was convinced that no just alliance could be esta-Wishcu between the employei * and the employed till both were equally represented , and each had the -wcr of making laws for the benefit of both by the jtter developement of the resources of the count ry , lie was more than pr . md to find that their ¦ Chairman and the other members of the association lad seen the prudence of adopting the greater portion of five points of the People ' s " Charter , aud he loped that they would at last discover that every one of the six points were so dependent ujion each other that they would adopt it whole and entire . ( Loud and protracted cheering . ) Yes , he would
show the impossibility of plucking a single bristle from the sauna ! if ilieiv object was to Tiarmoniso legislation . For instance , they were opposed to the payment of members , while the noble lord—the member for Marylcbone—expressed a hope that he ¦ would one day see labourers sitting in tht House ot Commons to represent their own order . ( Cheers . ) TVcllj but how could that be accomplished without paying those labourers , who would otherwise become paupers ? ( Lond cheers . ) And thus he thought he * had sufficiently proved the inefScacy , nay , the folly of attempting to adopt any principle short of the ' People's Charter , to which they must eventually come , while he would look upon himself as a traitor if he offered any opposition to a .
movement which , of all others , was capable of accelerating bis progress . ( Cheers . ) 2 fothing antagonistic to their cause had been uttered by any speaker in that assembly throughout the night , and he should take care that he should not be the first to provide a horse for their enemies to ride away on to their discomfiture . He was delighted with the evidence of fraternisation between the middle and the working , classes , which that meeting disclosed ; and he "believed that the more it was carried out , the greater would he the facilities for removing the ebfoqny which had been so unjustly attached towards the latter . ( Hear , hear . ) Ce himself would have cared nothing to have fraternised with mere wealthy money-mongers , or with autocrats , but he rejoiced
5 n the opportunity permitted him of joining a combination of industry and intelligence . ( Hear , hear . ) Bis object was the discouragement of the plunder of the poor and the rich , by carrying out the princip les © f this association , as laid down by Lord Xugent , ( Hear , hear . ) The true path of onward progress ¦ was that by which the intellect of the people was developed and their store of knowledge increased , and of the movement which had these ends in view lord John JSussell was not a little afraid ; for it would now go forward to the world that the "ism " of one set of Liberals was as good as the " ism" of another , and that there was no difference of opinion or purpose between the middle and working classes . ( Cheers . ) lie had laboured long for the people , and he had much experience in movements like the
present , and he told them that if they obtained the reforms sought for by this association they would be certainly able to carry more . From the gradual fusion and fraternisation of parties which was going on he believed that sfeat results would spring . Perhaps as he stood upon the boards of a theatre , Lc ma * bepermittOQ toinduhje in a theatrical anecdote , illustrative of the position of different parties lormerly . A young gentleman came from America , -with a letter of introduction to Sheridan Snowies ! Anxious to have a glimpp of English politics , he attended a meeting at the Crown ami Anchor , where he heard of nothingJ , ut Whigs , Tories , and Badicals . He returned to Sheridan Knowles ' s house n-Lere that great author was concluding his celeljraied play of theZsiv Chase , and whose mind was
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of course absorbed in theatricals . "Mr . Knowles , " said the Yankee , " What ' s tho difference between Whi " . « Tories , and Radicals ? " " Not much , my dearfellow " replied the author , still continuing his work " all the difference is , that the Tories go to the boxes , the Whigs to the pit , and the Radicals to the gallery ! " ( Loudcheers and laughter . ) And so perhaps it might be to-night , but still , notwithstanding this difference of situation , there was a co-operation of mind and an identity of object , and that object was that the privileged few should no longer live upon the plunder of the many . ( Loud cheers . ) There had been a dark cloud o ' er tho destinies of England , but in the distant horizon he saw the dim shadow of liberty and his heart daddened .
" In his ecstacy he exclaimed—Can it be 1 And a voice responds—Union and Liberty . " ( Loud cheers from all parts of the house . ) Were they , the tainted , odious Chartists , not more than proud to find that their Chairman ; the hon . member for Westminster ; the noble lord Nugent , the member for Aylesbury ; and George Thompson , member for the ' Tower ' Hamlcts ; had all voted for his motion upon the Charter ? ( Renewed app lause . ) Yea , he too was glad to find them there that nbht , and as their Chairman said , ho ( Mr . 0 Connor ) was delighted to see so many ladies present . This movement ought to be dear to the * . hearts , because one of its results would be to save their sex fmm iWradintr and onnrcssivc labour wluc . i should witc
be performed ° by man - alone , while the ana mother should attend to her domestic pursuits . What could be more galling to the mind of man , than the reflection that while your poorhouses were full of unwilling idlers , tender mothers were compelled to drag their sucking infants irom their breasts to attend the summons of the factory bell , and commit the little infant to the tender mercies of the hired nurse . ( Loud cheers . ) And yet the children thus reared and _ trained , were charged with ignorance as a justification for withholding the vote when they arrived at full age ; ° but as in every other country in the world , the enlightened mind of the age was developing itself . Be should not mention Hungary
for fear of causing too much excitement , and diverting tlieir minds from the object before them , but as he had often told them before , it was the knowledge and not the ignorance of the people they dreaded . Political parties in this country have held their power bv the odium created in the mind of the mental labourer—the shopkeeper—against the manual labourer ; but the shopkeeper had at length discovered , that no diminution of taxation could recompense him for the loss of a good customer , transformed from a free labourer into a pauper whom he was bound to maintain . ( Loud cheers . ) That clas 3 lad now discovered that the labourer earning a pound , or thirty shillings , or forty shillings a week , was a better customer than the man
wnose wages was reduced to five shillings or six shillings a week , in consequence of an idle competitive reserve ; whereas , if that well-requited labour was profitably applied to the developement of our national resources , it would create peace and plenty , and make the rich richer and the poor rich . ( Loud cheers . ) He was rather astonished that not a word had been tittered about our Church Establishment , and our gormandising bishops —( great cheering)—but the day would como when the nurses of the children of those ladies whom he then saw around him would amuse their infants with the ghost stories , the fairy tales and romances of the present day . He could picture to himself—and at no distant time—when a nurse niav amuse a child
with a representation of our present system of Church and State . She will show the child a picture in the story book , and the child will say , " Who is that old woman , nurse , with a white petticoat and big sleeves ? " " That ' s a bishop , my dear . " ( Tremendous laughter . ) " Well , nurse , who is that tall man with the red coat and coalscuttle upon his head V " That's a soldier , my dear . " ( Renewed laughter . ) " And what is that in his hand , nurse ? " " That ' s a musket , my dear ? " "And what is that upon the top of it ? " "A bayonet , my dear . " "And what are they for , nurse ? " "To shoot people , and stick people , my dear . " " Oh dew me , for what , nurse ? " " For a shilling a day , my dear . " ( Roars of laughter . ) "Well , nurse , who
is that nice little man so beautifully dressed ?" "He is an officer , my dear . " "Why is he an officer ? " " Because he is fit for nothing else , my child . " ( Loud and continued laughter . ) " Well , nurse , and -what makes him so small ? " '' Why , my dear , because he belonged to the aristocracy , and they confined the breed to their own blood , which was not pure ; and , my dear , like spaniels , from brcedin" in and in they run to fools . " ( Tremendous laughter . ) Kow that is the description that the nurse would give in times to come of the Church and State . He believed that he had suffered more odium , slander , persecution , and prosecution , than any mortal man that ever advocated popular principles ;
but , God forbid that his vanity , his ambition , or his wounded feeling , should induce him to bo a stumbling block in the road of progress . ( Loud cheers . ) 35 o , he would rather abandon public life , and see the cause of democracy progress , than work actively in it , and be the means of arresting its progress . ( Greafc cheering ) And it was because he discovered in the combination now formed , and still to be strengthened , the foreshadowing of his fondest hopes , that he would offer no opposition , but , on the contrary , his most cordial support to the present movement . ( Here the cheering and waving of hats was indescribable . ) But , Sir , continued Mr . O'Connor , turning to the Chairman , although I have every confidence in your honour ,
in your devotion and integrity , I will not . ibandon my post , I will still remain upon the watch-tower , and will , tearlessly , give the signal upon the first indication of desertion . ( Great cheering . ) His object was not to desire that the poor man should be placed in a position to plunder the rich , nor that the rich should plunder the poor ; and if he could help it that should never be the case . ( Hear . ) He supported this movement because it did away with all motives for the use of physical force , and because it was calculated to devclope the power of the country through _ the medium of a union between the working and middle classes . ( Hear , hear . ) The Chartists had been stamped with the odium of physical force—while it
was Lord John Russell and Sir George Grey who created alarm through their spies , their detectives , and informers , for the purpose of passing coercive bills and arousing the fears of their lickspittle supporters in the House of Commons . ( Tremendous cheering . ) He stood there that night as the acknowledged leader of the Chartists to repudiate the charge , and again to assert that it was the fabrication of their enemies in the hope of arresting that progress which the mind of the country was now making , and which could not be arrested by all the physical force at the command of the government , for they would soon discover that the voice of knowledge would silence the cannon ' s roar . ( Great cheering . ) What he wanted was , that a small party in
the state should not have the power to rule the overwhelming large party in it . ( Hear , hear . ) And he wished to see this carried out by peaceable means , and lie trusted that the Association wonld not lose sight of the vital question which was now revolutionising Europe , he meant the proper solution of the Labour question . ( Cheers . ) Mr . O'Connor then , turning to the Chairman , said , " Sir ; to your honour , you are the promoter of this holy alliance between the mental aud the manual labourer ; and when your bantling has arrived at a giant strength , mark my words , that those who have not
now the courage to join it from apprehension of defeat , will then endeavour to supplant you ; but they shall not pluck a feather from the wing under which you have fostered it , nor a single leaf from vour wreath of laurels , when you have accomplished it . " ( Great cheering , and waving of hats and handkerchiefs . ) This theatrical exhibition was not opened with a prologue , but he would conclude it with an impromptu epilogue : — " This land presents a state distressed : Though brave , yet vanquished—and though great , oppressed ; Its debt , its taxes , and its parsons' store , Hare paralysed , jour commerce , and devoured jouv
poor ; But England ' s day may come again , When you give the vote to each free-born man . Up , then , Britons ! let your watchword be—1 Union—the Charter—and Liberty !'" [ Mr . O'Connor resumed his seat amid the most deafening cheers and waving of hats and handkerchiefs . ] Air . Thomas Clark , who was loudly cheered , spoke at some length in praise of this union between the middle and working classes , and of the sentiments expressed by Lori Kugent . It was the first time , he said , in the history of England when so many different elements had been combined for objects go ultra in their character , but it was this combination which ensured the success of the association . He called upon the working classes to render it their support . ( Cheers . ) Mr . G . Thompson , M . P , had the satisfaction of informing ihe meeting that he was the " last man . "
( A laugh . ) , He had been merely called upon to pronounce the benediction , after the solemnisation of this alliance between the working classes and the middle classes in the cause of national reform . ( Hear , hear . ) He could only repeat what had been said by the last speaker . He congratulated W 3 hon . friend ( the chairman ) upon presiding over what he must describe as the most unprecedented assembly within the United Kingdom . So sueh exhibition of the cohesion of elements hitherto estranged had ever been made . ( Hear , hear . ) Having expressed these opinions , he must ask perihissioa to retire fiom the jtlatform without delivering a speech . ( Cries of " 2 fo . " ) What must he say ? c ( A Eoice , " Hungary . " ) Why , the exhibition of feeling with respect to Hungary , must have demonstrated to their Hungarian visitors that' there beat in every British bosom the most perfect sympathy with those who , in Hungary , were struggling for their rights .
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In the cause of liberty we could not help sympa * thisin" with all in every clime who wer © contendingfor the same object :-" There is a voice on every wave , A sound on every sea , The -watchword of the brave , The anthem of the free : From steep to steep it rings Throug h Europe ' s man y climes , A kne'l to despot Kings , A sentence on their crimes . Where ' er a wind is rushing , Where ' er a stream is gushing , The swelling sounds are heard Of man to freeman calling
Of broken fetters falling , And like the carol of a cageles 3 bird , The bursting shouts of freedom ' s rail ) ing word ' . ( Loud cheers . ) . Let us , however , in the midst of the commotions of Europe , congratulate ourselves that we were not obliged to resort to weapons for the purpose of vindicating our ri ghts . Let us , in our aspirations after a larger measure , of political power , not be unmindful of the substantial blessings we enjoyed . We are thankful that we live in a country where sueh a meeting can be held , whence , at least , those rulers could he rebuked who had not sympathised as they ought with the people they governed . He hoped , too , that the effect would follow from this movement in our colonies / where
the people were struggling to maintain their rights , that they would dismiss from their shores those who had been billeted upon them to the exhaustion of their resources . ( Hear , hear . ) The Whiga , he ventured to predict , would be prepared with some measure of reform next session ; and if he were not very greatly mistaken they would have to make room for better men , ( Hear . ) The hon . gentlemaa then proceeded at considerable length to refer to the late election at Reading , and from it to urge the necessity of further reform in the representation . Ho granted that the franchise was an important trust , and ought to be used wisely and uprightly ; but whilst it was held that the people were too ignorant to possess the power of voting for a
member of parliament once in the course of a number of years , they were allowed , day after day , and year after year , to exercise an influence in society compared with which the power of recording an occasional vote was insigr-ificant and contemptible . Why , if the unenfranchised were as ignorant and vicious as those who supported a circmscribed suffrage represented , society could not hold together . NotaUtheirpolicemen , theirbayonets , multiphedball cartridges and sand-bags , would be able to preserve the peace of the country . Buthe contended that there never was a society in the world so prepared for unlimited suffrage as the society to which we had the privilege to belong . In what relation was a man of most importance as a member of society—in the rolation . morely of tho voter in connexion with the State , or a 3 a father and a neighbour in his family and locality . ( Hear , hear ?) Why , if there were millions in this country not fit for the franchise ,
there were millions not fit to be at large . To tell him that tha man who was a trusty porter , an honest shopman , a discreet and upright foreman , an ingenious mechanic , a toiling and thrifty weaverto tell him that such a man was not competent after the candidates had given every publicity to their principles , to say which of them he would have to represent him in parliament , was a libel on the intelligence of his fellow countrymen . ( Loud cheers . ) Butihe veal secret was , that the aristocracy were not afraid of the ignorance of the unenfranchised classes ; they were afraid to appeal to their intelligence . ( Cheers . ) A man was never ignorant if he had a vote . ( A laugh . ) See the candidates go round amongst the " chaw-bacon" ir . en —( laughter)—and then now intelligent and independent they were . Their wives were angels , their children cherubs , and the fawning candidate would court the man to-day whom he would not condescend to spit upon tomorrow . The . audience that one of these men
disliked most , was any audience that they might gather , if they allowed the people at large to attend the meeting ; , and lot them have but confidence in tho man who spoke , and knew that they had an equal ri g ht to judge of the candidate's political principles with any individual in the assembly ; and he ( Mr . Thompson ) was able to declare , from twenty years ' experience of the working classes of this country , that they constituted the very beau ideal of an audience for an honest man to address , ( Cheers , ) He wig glad the council had resolved upon making that a national association , and he foresaw for that society the honour of leading the honest and uncompromising reformers of this country . He was sure if they put thoiv shoulders to the wheel during the
recess , they should have the country with them . That great movement was but the means to an end . Whether it was that they wanted to remove that stupendous abuse—the Established Church of Ireland , or very largely to reform our Established Church at home ; -whether we wished to reduce our taxation or equalise our imports—all those in favour of any one of these reforms would come to that association which sought to procure a House of Commons willing to discuss and deal with all these questions on their own merits , and not leave them to depend upon a costly agitation of ten or fifteen
years to carry them . He rejoiced to see sucli a remarkable amalgamation of reformers of different opinions as the present meeting displayed ; and he congratulated the council on the fact that , with one or two exceptions , all the gentlemen of the highest rank on the platform had manifested the most hearty concurrence in the hitherto despised principles of universal nnd unlimited franchise . Let all continue zealously affected in the good work ; let them sow their seed in the full assurance that in due time they should reap , if they fainted not . ( Cheers . ) The Chairman then declared the proceedings of the evening at an end .
Mr . Williams , late M . P . for Coventry , proposed a vote of thanks to the chairman for his conduct in presiding over the meeting , which was carried by acclamation . The CnAinMAN briefly acknowledged the compliment , and the assemblage then dispersed .
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- ^ Xtional land conference . THURSDAY , A * ootot 9 m Morning Sitting . The Com mittee met this morning at nine o'clock . before settling sho desi ea i ^ g ^ meansmight SrdSWemfmoney to get her home on the * 3 £ ? %$ ! 3 ^ » the subject the matter wait fo the discretion of the Directors attention - —
^ ^ TJS ^^ m « J 1 to the cn ^ e S ^ Sf | H ^ allotment he had sold a small property , «™ S" « J u his former means of existence . He could not get into that property , there being ob jectior . s in ttj way , and he ( Mr . Bostock wished to know tf there was no means of satisfying the moral-claim of this P ( Mr . CunK and Mr . Edwabds thought that there was here no claim for compensation , and it wouiu be founding a most dangerous precedent for tne future . ' The matter was referred to the Directors .
Reports of the Directors—Allottees . ^ The Committees appointed to make an inspection of the different allotments on the estate now proceeded to give in their several reports . It would be only ministering to idle and impertinent curiosity to record tho struggles , the unwearied patience , the untiring perseverance , and the unabated hope , that carried the allottees-through the years 1847 and 1848 Everything was calculated in the outset to try their courage and to cramp their energies . There had been great faults committed by some of the persons whom Mr . O'Connor trusted to carry into effect his philanthropic schemes , lne land wa 3 in thefirstplace broken into huge masses , which the sun dried into a brick-like consistence , and the
seed , which had to support the allottees in the farst instance , was dropped in here . The consequence may be well imagined—a total failure . Then came the potato blight to add to the distress . Yet , notwithstanding all this , with an energy and fortitude which heroes may not parallel , they set themselves to recover these reverses . They were confident in the truth of the principles oil which the Land Plan was founded , and in the support of its framer ; and assisting each other W ; here they could , they struggled through a season of extraordinary depression , enduring sufferings not exceeded by any person in any part of the country , and to their honour be it spoken , enduring them uncomplainingly . Assertions had been hazarded in some journals that the
allottees had been compelled to ask for parish relief ; this is untrue . That during the height of the depression many of them did work for the neighbouring farmers is true , but was there shame attached to this ? . They had now , however , recovered the effects of bad seasons and original mismanagement , and with the aid of greater experience in agricultural affairs ( the world should remember that a great many of the allottees when they first came on the estate had never used a spade before ) , they were blessed with abundant crops , or , in the language of one of them , "they had been tried ^ severely—they were now about to reap the fruits , " It is not the intention of the reporter to go through the whole of the list of the allottees . It would be difficult to select where all had done well , and to
individualise the struggles of the past , even for the purpose of showing the heroism which conquered them , is denied to the reporter . He was almost universally requested not to mention former privations . in connexion ivilh their names . "Ton see , " they added , " that the Plan will do ; judge for yourself—and let every man who doubts come here and examine for himself also . We can earn a comfortable and independent living from the land , and while the fear of starvation is banished from our eyes , we arc blessed that we call no man master . " In every case the allottee was determined to stop , and in the great majority of cases they only craved a little patience in the matter of rent , which , in consequence of the failure in the creps in the former years , they had got behind in .
Mr . Munday , after delivering in one of the reports from Lowbunds , called tho attention of the Conference to the fact , that on several of the estates there were empty houses , ' while not less than 390 members were balloted for , and yefc unlocated . Why should these houses not be supplied with tenants ? By drafting a lot of the balloted members on to them they would be making a move , and restore' confidence to the country . He did not blame Mr . O'Connor for these things , but from all he could learn there had been mueii left . He was free to confess ii ; could not be otherwise ; there had been a great deal left to local agents , who , in too many cases , had retarded instead ^ of advancing the good work , ( Hear , hear . ) After the enumerating of other charges , he ( Mr . Munday ) ho felt stronglv
on this point . He should like to see these things remedied and removed , while he affirmed that there had beQn groat mismanagement on the part of some persons who had been honoured with the confidence of Mr . O'Connor ; he was sorry to give offence , but he could not resist giving expression to the convictions of his honest mind , They could not go on the estate without noticing these things , and having noticed them , he , for one , would have courage to tell them of it . These tilings ought never to have existed ; but as unfortunately errors had boon committed , it was time they should be remedied , and it was for this purpose absolutely necessary that the Directors should remember that they were the servants , and that the Conference stood to them in the position of masters .
Mr . Smith reported from Snig s End . Generally speuking " the crop ? -were of the very best description . The allottees were cheerful and contented , and the only thing required was a little patience to enable them to bring up the arrears consequent upon a bad harvest . He for one would be very sorry if any attempt were made to luu-rass nien who had shown themselves so determinedly industrious , and he thought that a little encouragement only was required to enable these men to show the world that the National Land Tlan could could do all and more
than its founders promised . After reading the list of allottees on whom he had called , and their prospects for the future , Mr . Smith continued , ' I now crave the attention of the lasses present . The next name I have got is Robert Brande—he is a bachelor , Laughter . ) He has spent £ 50 on his land already . This allottee is cultivating flowers ( laughter ); and udgirtg fi-oni all appearances I think it is evident ie is laying himself out for a wife . " ( Laughter . ) He Ml . Smith ) was sorry that complaints were heard i'om the allottees of the manner in which their land had been cropped at first .
Mr . Moiioan : Some of them say that when the potatoes were planted , they cut out all the middle and only left the eyes . ( Laughter . ) Mr . Clelasd , an allottee : Oh , that is nonsense ( laughter ); but it admits of explanation . The land was only roughly ploughed , and when the potatoes were put in , the ground , being quite hard , prevented the potato expanding , and gave it the appearance described to the delegates . Justice was done in the matter of the potatoes , but the fact was that the ground was not properly prepared . Mr . Skevixcton thought it was a matter of importance that this should be brought forward , because to it were the struggles in the first instance to be attributed . If the allottees had been properly secured in the matter of the potatoes , they might have been enabled to live on them . The great evil seemed to have been that the persons in the
management had too much confidence in agents , who abused it . The allottees kid also to contend with the neighbouring farmers , who sought by every means to injure them . Mr . Dowlixo went into some points a little further than did his friends who had preceded him . The delegate gave in his report . There was one case to which he wished to call particular attention . It \ vas that of Mv . Grey—he was the tenant of Mr . Millev , another allottee , and he fesvved that as Mr . Miller stated his inability at the next term of satisfying all the demands of the company , that he ( Mr . Grey ) might be awkwardly placed . Mr . Grey had agreed with Mr . Miller for £ 12 rent , and to pay the taxes besides . He had taken possession without consulting the Directors . His land was in excellent condition , and he was quite willing to pay all the liabilities if Mr . Miller would not , the company taking him as the immediate tenant .
After a few words from Mr . Grey , he was instructed to communicate with the Directors . M . i \ DowusG continued : The impression on the minds of the committee , after a careful examination of all the circumstances , is , that the reports that had got abroad of the idleness and drunken habits of the allottees were false and slanderous , and altogether unworthy of credit . ( Hear , hear . ) The Chairman : And I may add , that the whole of the delegates acquit them of idleness or drunkenness , or any other of the foul charges which have been brought against them . A more industrious and moral set of men I believe never existed . ( Great cheering . ) Air . Morgan also presented a report , which , in its main features was a counterpart of the others . Mr . Yates and Mr . Oliveu having presented similar reports , on the motion of Mr . WuEELERthey were received and adopted . ' The Conference then adjourned ^
Afternoon Sitting . The Chairman took his seat at half-past two o clock . . . Mr . M'Grath rose to reply to the comments made by some of the delegates . The reports were , he aeknowlcd < rcd , fair , just , and dispassionate : and in dealing withthe complaints made by the allottees , and in some degree chargeable to the Directors , he was ready to ; admit-they would , all admit it—that the Board of ^ nagemQnt was aoi infallible—thoy
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were all liable to error . But whi e « ie « tartted all this , he denied that they were guilty . to the exten sou-ht to be established by Mr . Mundfty . Many of Karges brought forwaVd by them were notfairly attributable to th ° e Directors It was the > easies thing in the world to find fault with men who had public duties to perform / and this should bo borne in mind bv the delegates . One of the firat charges made by ' Mr . Munday , was to tho effect that on several of the estates houses were to be found unoccupied—that these were neglected to be supplied , while people were starving in the manufacturing districts . This was all very true , but , unfortunately , it was not in the power of the Directors to preven t ifc . These vacant allotments had all been assigned were all liable to error . But while-. ieaamitted au
by the ballot—they all had proprietors , although tfiese proprietors did not choose to reside upon them . He would , for the purpose of illustrating this fact , take the case of Mrs . Watson , which had been before them that morning . They had by a , vote of the Conference given Mrs . Watson possession of an allotment on the Lowbands estate ; but , then , Mrs . Watson was going to Edinburgh ; suppose she remained there for the next two years , paying rent and taxes for her land hero , what remedy could the Directors havo ? What would or could be the conduct of the Directors , under such circumstances ? They could positively do nothing . Now this was the case with reference to one or two houses at Lowbands ; one house , he believed , at
O'Connorville and three or foul' houses at Minster Lovel . Mr Mitndav said , that the houses were going out of reniir in consequence of the neglect of these parties . Well the time would come when they ( the Directors ) ' could demand that tho necessary repairs should be made ; and then , if tho demands oi the Company were not satisfied , the Directors would be justified in assigning the allotments to other parties lie hoped that this explanation would exonerate the Directors from all blame in this particular . But Mr Mundav said , that some of the houses were going toS and ruin . He ( Mr . M'Grath ) was sorry to acknowledge that injury had been done to some of the houses . It was always the case , that when numbers of men were brought together some
exceptions could be found to general good conduct . Ihe privations of last year had been attended with one good effect— -it had purified the allottees ; those remaining through good and evil times who were thoroughly convinced of the justice and truth of their cause , and those seceding who were lukewarm , or had not energy sufficient to bear up against difficulties . The Directors knew that some of the latter class had been guilty of outrages , such as cutting down tho young fruit trees . and making firewood of them , and similar offences—the Directors knew this—they did not attempt to deny it . But were they injustice to be blamed because certain men—from whom they were now happily relieved—had been improvident ? Mr . Munday said that the Directors
had nofc to experience the heart-burnings which tho local secretaries felt from the reproaches of their members . Ho could assure Mr . Munday that the Directors had also their heart-burnings—heartburnings arising from the conduct of the members themselves . Another charge was that there was a quantity of wood , Ac , on one of these estates , which ought to be sold off at once . He ( Mr , M'Grath ) contended that it should not be sold off , unless it wero also intended that the company should be wound up . There were materials within the shed , to which Mr Munday referred , for the completion of forty houses in window-sashes , doors , panels , and so on . Another complaint was that the allottees had never been told the amount of rent they were expected
to nay . This was certainly a novel complaint . The Conference were of course aware that there were many questions to be determined before the rents-of the allotments could be severally decided . In an estate of any size , the quality of land greatly varied , and , without a positive survey , it would be impossible to say what the vont for sueh portion should be . There could be no arbitrary rule on the matter . But the allottees might obtain , if they desired it , an approximation to the rental , by calculating four per cent , upon the outlay . The leases had not been made out , because , as the Directors were aware , the company had no legal existence yet , and Mr . 0 ' Connor did not desire to grant leases in his own name , because if he did so , the press of this country—which found all to condemn and nothing to desire in his public life—would say : " Oh ! there , the rascal has thrown aside the mask , he is
making away with the property . " ( Ironiual cheers , and enos of " We can trust him . " ) But ifc might be said—and was said by one of the delegates , he believed— " If you value the land some time hence , it will not give the allottees fair play for their improvements , You should have valued the land as it was . " This , he beggod to assure them , would be taken into consideration , and no man would have it in his power to say that his industry had been overlooked . ( Cheers . ) With reference to the charge of cutting out the hearts of the potatoes , lie could only say that it was n deliberate falsehood . With regard to the matter of rent , the circumstances of the allottees would he considered , and no unnecessary harshness would be used in enforcing it . He trusted that what he had stated would show the delegates that the Directors were not fairly chargeable with neglect of duty .
Mr . Dixon called attention to the case of John Kay , who was rated for three acres , although his property did not quite amount to that . He would bring the matter under the notice of the Directors , with a view to remedying the inequality . Mr . Wheeler said , that he had made notes from the reports of the committee , and found those reports most satisfactory , Several delegates having expressed a similar opinion , Mr . Clelasd rose for the purpose of explaining how it was that a concatenation of circumstances ^ over which neither the Directors nor the allottees could exercise any control , had , in the first instance , marred their exertions and rendered their industry fruitless . He trusted that these days were over , and that the abundant promise this year would bo the forerunner of many move abundant harvests . ( Cheers . )
A conversation arose about the advantages of a practical agriculturist . Mr . Doyle explained that his time was fully occupied . He was seldom at home on the Snig ' s End estate , his duties leading him elsewhere , He could boast of but few leisure minutes for the enjoyment of domestic quiet , and , therefore , so far as he was concerned , his position was no sinecure . While on his , legs he might be permitted to ask them distinctl y to understand—that it had been over and over again stated by Mr . O'Connor , both through the columns of the Northern Star , and at former Conferences , that the rent would be regulated to the tenant according to the wholesale price of the estate .
Mr . Edwards had a little to say about tho rents . The allottees on Lowbands had alieady been two years in possession , the allottees on Snig ' s End had yot . If they bore so long with tho people at Lownands , he thought they ought to be consistent and to give equal grace to the people at Snigs End . If they pressed for rent now they would only drive them back into the state from which they had just emerged , and , as they admitted , their industry ' and perseverance , he did not see that tho company would > e benefitted by forcing such men to quit the estate , taking tho chance of obtaining others as good in their stead . He would wish to have the rent but of two follies he would choose the least . " Mr . Bosiock wished to know why it was that the
directors had seen tit to change the place appointed fov thft Conference from that originally appointed ? Mr . Clark said , the peculiar circumstances iii which the Directors were placed , with the question as to going on or being wound up before them , and the reports that had gone abroad with respect to the condition of the estates , had induced tho Directors to call the Conference at Snig ' s End , so that the delegates might have an opportunity of seeing and judging for themselves how far ' these reports were deserving of credit . Mr . Seevikotox thought the explanation not too satisfactory , and , as far as he and others were concerned , the reasons adduced were not so valuable as
Mr . Clark , appeared to think them . Many of the delegates were not sufficiently experienced in the price of land to say what the value of tho estates were , and so far as this was concerned , they mitrht as well have met at . Nottingham . So far as his own gratification was concerned , and , perhaps , so far as the intercourse between the delegates and the allottees was concerned , they might have done some good , but he was no advocate of doing evil that good might come , and he therefore condemned the departure from the decision of last year He "ought , instead of being called the makers , of the law , the Directors ought to be called the violators ot it , and he trusted they would in this respect at east sin no more .
After a conversation in which Mr . Dixon , Mr Flood , and others took pavt , Mr . Flood moved , and Mr . Saunders seconded " That the" present board of Directors be reelected . " The motion was carried unanimously . Mr . Clark having on the part of tho Directors returned thanks for this renewed mark of confidence , ; Mr . Smith moved " That the Conference at its rising « o adjourn till the Company becomes legalised or some greafc necessity occur for calling it towl
tner again . "—Seconded and carried . Mr . Surros moved " That the best thanks of the delegates be given to Mr . Sweet , for the able and energetic manner in which he had presided over tho Conference . "—Carried unanimously , Mr WiiEELBR : It had been promised for tho last lour times , that they should meet atNottingham He thought it time this were carried into effect , and ho should therefove propose « That the next Conference beheld at Nottingham . " -Agreed to . Oil the motion of Mr . Halliwell , a vote of thanks was given to Mr . O'Connor and the board of Oirectors .-Camed with ' eattuuiasm , afto which the Conference broko up .
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COlttf . JIabk-lane , Monday , August 13 . —We had a short supply of English wheat at thi 3 day ' market , which was taken by the millers at Is per quarter lower on last Mondays prices . Of Foreign the arrival was moderate , but ire cannot note any improvement in the trade , though the weather for the last day or twfi has been unsettled , and , indeed , sales to-ctay eould scarcely be effected unless at rather lower rates . Harvest has commenced very generally in our neighbouring counties , and there were a few samples ot new wheat showing to-day , but not in sufficient quantity to form any opinion of the general quality . Flour dull . Harley slow sale , and Gd cheaper . Beans rather lower , und new grey peas 2 s to 3 s . cheaper . The supply of oats being moderate , { food fresh com was readier sale at lust Monday ' s quotations , whilst heated inferior samples sold with difficulty . Uye without inquiry . Linseed cakes quite as deaiv Carraway seed and rapeseed without alteration .
British . —Wheat—Essex , Suffolk , and Kent , red , als to 41 s , ditto white , 88 s to 47 s , Lincoln , Norfolk , and York , shire , red , 32 s to 41 s , NortUunibovliind and Scotch , white , 34 s to 40 s , ditto red , 33 s to 3 Us , Devonshire and Somersetshire , red , —s to —s , ditto white — to —s , rye , 22 s to 24 s , barley , 24 s to 2 Cs , Scotch , 23 s to 25 s , Angus —S to —S Malt ordinary , —s to —s , pale , 52 s to 075 , pCO . 5 , jjrey ( new » 26 s to 28 s , maple 28 s to 80 s , white , 24 s to 2 Us . boilers ( new ) , 27 s to COs , beans , large , new , 25 s to 28 s , ticks 27 s to 29 s , harrow , 28 s to 32 s , pigeon , 32 s to 34 s , oats , Lincoln and Yorkshire , feed , 10 s to 20 s , ditto l ' olaud and potato , 18 s to 'J 2 s , Berwick and Scotch , 17 s to 20 s , Scotch feed , 17 s to 22 s , Irish feed , and black , 15 s to 20 s , ditto potato , 17 s to " > 2 s , linseed ( sowing ) 50 s to 52 s , rapeseed , 13 sse . \ , new , £ 25 to £ 27 per last , carraway seed , Essex , new , 27 s to 31 s per cwt , rape cake , £ 4 to £ 4 10 s per ton , linseed , £ 9 lUs to £ 10 10 * . per 1 , 000 , flour , per sack of 2801 bs , ship , 29 s to 31 s , town , 40 s to 42 s .
Foreign . —Wheat , — Dnntzig , 4 Gs to 53 s , Anhalt and Marks , 80 s to 4 : is , ditte white , 41 sto 4 Gs , Pomeranian red , 37 s to 43 s , Rostouk 40 s to 4 Cs , Danish , Holstcin , and Fricsland , 32 s to 38 s , I ' etsrsburgh , Archangel , and Riga , 34 a to 4 Gs , l'olish Odessa , 34 s to 40 s , Mavianopoli , : md Berdianski , 32 s to 35 s , Taganvog , 32 s to oas , Brabunt and French , 3 us to 40 s , ditto white , 87 s to 42 s , Salouica , 32 s to 35 s , Egyptian , 24 s to 26 s , rye , 21 s to 23 s , barley , Wismav and Ilostock , 2 » s to 23 s , Danish , 20 s to 23 s , Siliil , 21 s t « 25 s , EustFriesliind , 16 s to 18 s , Egyptian , 15 s to IGs , Danube , 15 s to IGs , peas , white , 2 Gs to 2 Ss , new boilers , 28 s to 30 s , beans , horse , 25 s to 2 us , pigeon , 3 ls to 33 s , Egyptian , 21 s to 23 s , oats , Groningeu , Danish , Bremen , and i ' vicsland , feed and black-, l'Js to 17 s , ditto , thick and brew , ICs to 21 s , Iliga , Petersburg , Archangel , and Swedish , 15 ? to 17 s , flour , United States , per lUtilGs ., 22 s to 23 s , Hamburg 20 s to 22 s , Duntzig and Stettin , 21 s to 23 s , French pei 'J 801 bs ., 32 sto 3 Gs .
CATTLE . SjimtnEtD , August 13 . —The arrivals from Ireland by sea direct for this market last week amounted to 31 oxen , and 27 tJ sheep . For the time of year , the veceipis of beasts from our various grazing districts fresh up this morning were but moderate , and of middling quality . As the attendance ofboth town and country buyers was good , and the dead markets were well cleared of their late supplies , the beef trade ruled steady , at prices quite canal to those obtained on Monday last . A few very superior Scots sold ut 4 s ; but 3 s 10 d was the top general figure for beef . There was ; i considerable increase in the numbers of sheep compared with those exhibited on this day sc'nnight . For all breeds the demand ruled stead y , but not to say brisk , at full rates of eiirrene . v . The primest old Downs sold at os llld to 4 s per Slbs . We wore again well supplied with lambs , in but middling condition . Prime Down qualities sold steadily ; other kinds of lamb slowl y , at lust week ' s prices . Calves , the supply of which was good , moved off heavily , at . unaltered quotations . In pigs scarcely tiny business ^ Yas doing ; prices , however , were mostly supported . Head of Cattle &t Smitiificld . —Friday . —Bcnsts , 796 ; sheep , 13 , 280 ; calves , 408 ; pigs , 300 . Mondav . —Beasts , 3 , 30 ( 5 ; sheep , 31 , 240 : calves , 196 ; thks . 'HO . "
Price per stone of Slbs . ( sinking the offal ) . —Beef , 2 s 8 d tc 3 s JOd ; mutton , 2 s lOd to 4 s Od ; veal , 2 s 10 ; i to 3 s 8 d ; pork , 3 s - . 'd to 4 s Ud ; lamb , 4 s Od to 5 s Od . Newgate asd Leaden hall , Monday , Aug . 13 th . —Inferior beef , 2 s Od to 2 s id ; middling ditto , " 2 s Gd to ^ s 8 d ; prime large , 2 s lOd to 3 s Od ; prime small , 3 s 2 dto 3 s 4 d ; large pork , 3 s id to 3 s Gd ; inferior mutton , 2 s 8 d to 2 s lOd ; middling ditto , 3 s OdtoSs 4 d ; prime ditto , 3 s 6 d to 3 s 8 d ; veal , 2 s 8 d to 3 s Gd ; small pork , 3 s 8 d to 4 s Od ; lamb , 3 s lOd to » lOd per Slbs . by the carcase . AUGUST lath . —We are but scantily supplied with grain this week , but with a continuance of line weather , and declining prices in our country markets , the buyers here act with the greatest reserve , so that the demand is very limited , and prices without variation Arrivals this week : —Wheat — English , 5 G 0 quarters - foreign , 5 . 2 T 0 quarters . Bavley—English , 40 quarters r tore ! i ; u , 4 S 0 quarters . Oats—English , 430 quarters : foreign , 900 quarters . Flour—1 , 250 sacks .
FltUIT AND VEGETABLES . Covent Gaudeh Mabkct . —Hothouse grapes , peaches , and nectarines are plentiful . Pineapples are cheaper . Cherries are less plentiful . Kipe goesebenies and currants are sufficient for the demand . Apricots are pretty well supplied . Nuts in general arc abundant . Oranges and lemons are plentiful , and the market continues to be overstocked with melons . Amongst vegetables , turnips may be obtained at from 3 d . to Gd . a bunch . Carrots the same Cauliflowers are plentiful , Green peas fetch from Is Gd to 4 s per bushel . Potatoes are cheap . Lettuces and other salading are sufficient for the demand . Mushrooms fetch from Is to Is Gdper bottle . Cut flowers consist of heaths pelargoniums , gardenias , bignonia venusta , troweolumij carnations , fuchsias , and «> scs . ' - ^
WOOL . Cnr , Monday , Aug . 13 . —The imports of wool into London last week wove 1 , 251 hales , of which 419 were from South Australia , 385 from Germany , and 1 , 477 from L ' ovt Philip . Ihe market for wool is firm .
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DEATH . " ¦ * The Cliavtists of Preston , have to lament the death of James Crook , who left his work ( being a dresser ) about live o'clock on Thursday evening , Uth inst ., and expired about one on Friday morning , of the Asiatic cholera . He lias left a wife and seven children to deplore his loss . As a Mud husband and a tender and indulgent parent , nonesurpassed him . He had been a teetotaler twelve years . He was a paid-up shareholder in the Land Company , and was well prepared for taking an allotment , having , by his iudustry and economy got four good milch cows , pigs , ke . i hough- careful l \ e was not hard-hearted ; was there a subsciiptiou for Victims , or for his siok brethren , we could njwtfjs calculate on his full mite . Il < s died m his 14 th year , uis loss will be severely felt by his numerous shopmatesand neighbours , and especially by the Chartists , but moat , wo are certain , by his family .
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^ W MEETING AT I 1 YPE , SEAR MANCHESTER . On Friday evening , the 10 th inst ., a crowded meeting was held in the spacious school-room at Flowery Field , Hyde , to appoint a committee to cooperate with tho Manchester Financial and lleform Association ; Mr . J . Bradley in the chair . ' Tho meeting was addressed by Sir . Prentice ; and . the following gentlemen were appointed a committee to co-opevato -with the Manchester Association : — Messrs . John Bradley , Sampson Arden , Thomas OMham , Thomas Wall , John Hall , jun ., Joseph Collur , jun ., Frederick Riiey , Isaac Booth , Isaac Whittaker , James 13 urgoing , John Rayncr , and Joseph Smethui-st . Thanks having been given to Mr . Prentice , and the chairman , the meeting separated .
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MYSTERIOUS DEATH IN A WORKHOUSE . [ From our Third Edition of Last Week . ) An inquest was held on Friday before Mr . Baker , at the Grave Maurice public-house , High-street , Whitechapel , touching the death of Mr . John James Watts , aged 60 , one of the parochial surgeons of St . Georgcin-the-East , who died from the effects of poison , iu the Whitechapel workhouse . Elizabeth Lewis desposed that she managed the Britannia Coffee-house , in the Whitechapel-road . On Tuesday night last > the deceased came to the house , accompanied by an elderly female , and engaged a bed-room for the night . They were shown to a room , and the deceased paid witness 2 s . for the apartment . They went to bed , and on the following morning , at ten o ' clock , witness sent tho
servant girl to knock at the door . She returned directly afterwards , and said the man and woman were moaning very loudly , and appeared as if they were dying . Witness instantly ran up stairs , ' and by the desire of deceased procured the attendance of his partner , Mr . Broadwater , surgeon . Witness found two bottles in the room , containing a liquid , which she handed over to Mr . Biackmnn , and also an empty phial . Mr . W . J . Broadwater , . surgeon , said the deceased was late his partner , and had . been so for upwards of two yeara . They jointly occupied a house in Cannon-street-road . The deceased was one of the parochial surgeons of St . George's-in-thc-East , and he had absented himself from liis professional duties for the last five weeks , and witness
had never heard of him . It had latterly come to his knowledge that the deceased was in the habit of visiting a female , named Sarah Craig , a widow . The deceased was a married man , but was separated from his wife sixteen months after marriage , This was abbufc thirty years ago . The Poor Law guardians had only lately suspended the deceased from his duties , in consequence of hia negligence . Between ten and eleven o ' clock on Wednesday morning last witness received a message to attend Mr . Watts , at the Britannia Coffee-house ; -witness went to the deceased , whom he found lying in bed with a female , both of whom were in a sinking state . It further appeared , from the examination of the woman ( who still remains in a dangerous state at the workhouse ) , that the deceased had obtained
some medicine at a chemist ' s at Mile-end , and that she had got some " stuff" at another chemist ' s ; that they had both been suffering from the want of the common necessaries of life ! and that the deceased had given her three glasses of a liquid , which she drank , and afterwards became very ill . A paper of powders containing corrosive sublimate was found in the deceased ' s clothes . On a post mortem examination traces of mineral poison were found in the stomach and intestines of deceased . The jury , under the advice of the coroner , returned ah open verdict , " That the deceased died from the effects of poison ; but how , or in what manner , ad * min'isterea , or whether taken by the deceased , or other Mso , there was not sufficient evidence for them to say . ' ^
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THE KIRKDALE PRISONERS . TO ME EDITOR OF ME NORTHERN STAR . Dear Sib , —At a meeting of members of the Manchester locality of the National Charter Association , held at the People ' s Institute , August 5 th , the report of the committee appointed by the members to inquire into the dispute between the Kirkdale Prisoners and the Manchester Victim Committee and Council was heard . A great many letters were read upon the subject , and amongst the rest , one from Daniel Donovan , from which we take the following extract : — " You will see that I made my " calculation from the time I went to Liverpool , " and I found , according to Mr . T . Clark ' s state" mentthat the sum sent would be about 3 s . Od . m . x « .
, " per week ; but at that time I was labouring under "the impression that the Manchester Cotmnittea " had stopped some money that was sent from •« London , and that this money that I thought was " stopped would form part of the sum total , I consequently deducted something for that , winch re-« duced the above-mentioned weekly sum to about •' 3 s . 6 d . per week , as I stated it in tho Star . My " reason for believing that the money was sent " from London was , that I wvs inioMfled . that " Rankin ' s wife did receive for that week , and I " did not know how it was sent , I thought it came " from London . You must not blame me for this " ignorance , as I strove my best to be informed I " wrote twice to the secretary of the Committee ,
" Thomas Ormeshcr , to be informed on this matter , " but I received no answer . I see from the sums " inserted in the Council ' s famous letter that there " is 11 s . paid to my wife more than I inserted in " my letter , but I did not know of it , and if the " secretary had answered my letter no such mis" take could have occurred . " You will Jearn from " the above extract that a portion of the dispute has arisen through a misunderstanding , and in justice to Mr . Ormesher we must state that he was ordered by tho Committee not to answer the letters referred to . However , after a lengthened discussion the following resolution was passed : — " That the Victim Committee be requested to resign , and that their accounts having been audited are strictly
correct . " " That we elect a new Victim Committee , - and that the following persons form the committee : —Messrs . Joseph Mawdsley , John Grundy , John Nuttall , William Hemm , Thomas Fildes ; Thomas Ormesher , financial secretary , and William Shelmerdine , treasurer . " The Committee have held a first meeting , and appointed Thomas Fildes their chairman , and William Hemm as their corresponding secretary . On an examination of the finances wo found that there was no money , and until some was subscribed the treasurer would have to advance money for the purpose of supporting the men in prison , or else allow them to go upon prison fare . I hope , sir , that you will use your influence through your valuable journal for the purpose of raising funds to support them . _
All communications must be directed to Mr . Wm Hemm , No . 49 , Canning-street , Bradford-street , Manchester . Yours fraternally , WiU IlfiMM .
TO THE EDITOR OF TIIE NOMIIEKX STAB . Dear Sir , —We have this day received a letter from the secretary of the Manchester Victim Committee , informing us that the Committee has been re-modelled , and as such is the case , and wo find the new Committee composed of some well tried friends of the people , we take this mod " * of expressing our satisfaction at the change , and our thanks to the Manchester Chartists for their upright conduct . We trust that owr various friends in Lancashire and Yorkshire will now co-operate with the Manchester Committee , as before . We are , yours truly ,
Gkorgb White , James Leach , John West , Daniel Donovan . P . S . All communications for the Manchester Victim Committee , should be addressed , Mr . William Hemm , secretary , 49 , Canning-street , Bradford-street , Manchester . Kirkdale Gaol , August 14 th , 1849 .
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