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' TO THB KDITOB OP THE IfOKTHES * STXR . giB , —As your paper is extensively circulated in this town , and as a great many are unable to read Welsh , I trust as your Merthyr friends do not often tronMe von ¦ with their communications , you will not hare the Sehtest hesitation in allowing the enclosed a small nook in yoor next number for Its insertion , I am , dear Sir , Tour ' s , truly , In the cause of Liberty , William Thohas . Peuyr heel gerrig , Merthyr TydT ° > ° * itb > 18 a -
» -LITERAL TEA > 'SLAtI 05 OP A LBTTSB WHICH APPEASED IS £ HE UDGOBJf , A -WELSH PAPKR , PUBLISHED ET THE WOXKIXB CLASSES OF MSBTHTB TTDTIL .
TO SIK JOSIAH JOHN GUEST . <; IBj _ It is probable that you Trill consider it pregn ^ ptnoas in me , as I am a workman , to address yon , ; n beiug a wealthy mas , and a man of great influence i Vith the tenpounders and others , who possess more -treurth ft " sense—who boldly assert that all others ; ^ fSols , if the mark of the Reform beast is not to be i —en on some part of their bodies . My property , my j tsuital , is all , whichever way it has been obtained , j eiei through honesty or dishonesty , the rich is the i eod , and he alone is worshipped . The instinct and iae j long of the thief , who is justly punished by our laws ,, are precisely the same . Whether it is presumptuous 1 or not , I "Bill write the letter ; and rwnember , Sir , \ teat you will not be more wealthy than myself in a j kuudred years hence . The gr&ve will be your freehold , j also my lodging . Why , then , will we be oppressors- ? ; There is to be a day of judgment and reckoning , and if , you will escape , great will be your blessing ; because j you haTe sinned against the poor by loving and embracing cruelty and tyranny in the company of Wfcigs ; and Tories within the walls of St Stephens . The people know it , and understand it -. you are under a mark of their discontent at this moment , and you know j for what reason . And if you possess a moral and feeling conscience , I would not grow jealous of it for all your wealth . Hah . ' fie , Gaest ; fie for shame . Is it ; not an exceedingly bad principle to oppress and become ' ¦ wealthy at the cost of the misery of the poor of the ; land ? Do I believe thai you understand the signs of ; the times , and that which is likely to take place ere ] hive no reason to believe that you do comprehend the signs of the times better thin a new-born child does . Ton h 3 d a lesson on the day of the last election in MertLyr , yes , a very admirable lesson . Though yon irere not previously , I ani certain , bat in the horn fe&' -k of politics , and if yon have not yet learned to spell and read , and rone on witi uncommon progress in the grynmar of politics , yon are one of the most empty- ' beaded and the greatest numskull within Merthyr and ;
its vicinity . i >' ero fiddled when Rome was on fire . " j I am afraid that you are too much like that prototype ; ef all cruelty . The power of Kero was in spies , in his ; soldiers , in his servants , and in his hypocrites , and I . warrant , in persons who were at that time held in de- testat ion by fcxmsn kind , as the rural police are at this , day in oar country . Nero was s tyrant You have supported the most oppressive and tyrannical Ministry ; that ever exhted in Britain . ; Seriously , Sir , how did yon lose the majority on the dsy of election , and you , a rich man , the great lord of the blast furnaces , the puddling , and the ciader tips , and God knows wb&t besides . Dear me , fie , fie , how unfortunate ! " What ? The great knight of the tenpounders , and the coal wheelbarrows , loosing the _ majcrity by a show of hands on the day of election .
Morgan Williams , a weaver by trade , and a gentleman by morals , and a man by principle , and naturally , when possessing the properties I named , a Chartist , or , if you like a true , not an hypocritical Christian ; it is not at all , then , surprising that he carried the day . ' Well , again , Sir Josiah John Guest , how did you loss the election ? I will explain the matter to you immediately . Be patient to read , and not too stupid to-j understand . It is true that the ass moves on under a j heavy burthen when he is pricked . Come now , Sir , we will reason about the election , on the signs of the times , ; and on the contention which is probable to take place . ; The workmen , though you want them to remain ignor- ant , know well that you supported the shabby Ministry of the Whigs to pass the Xew Poor Law Act , which was made against the testimonies laid before the House ; of Commons . i
The workmen consider that yen voted to oppress and erslave them , so do I . The workmen believe that you caress the Whig infernal machine , to kill the poor , because it puts money in the pockets of the wealthy corps , in more than one way . The workmen know , srd ttat from unquestionable evidence , when a man will sell himself to deal in the defilement of living on the cost of the comforts of the unfortunate , or when hs will rapport and incite others , or allow others to do »< £ a ~ £ Uby and a fiepdiBli wort , it is evident that such a man , if you ¦ will permit the expression , is a stinging aid a poisonous snaks . Seriously , Gaest , can you deny in the face of the country , and in the face of
your Tote , to punish the poor worse than punishing thieves , that you did not sting and poison the poor of Great Britain , when you voted fur the >" ew Poor Liw , and because you are one of the set of the foul , bloody , cruel , and unprincipled men , who voted for the divorcement of man and wife , by parting them , endeavoured to stiSe the human and fatherly feeling through parting children from their parents , and sporting with tie bodies cf the poor , by putting them under the Dead Body Act The conduct cf the workmen of Merthyr , and such of the middle class , who were men of sense , was nothing bat natural Sid T 5 TOT 55 T .
If the workmen are , as a body , not able to comprehend as philosophers , believe me they can feel as men when under oppression , and they are sot wholly destitute of courage , thank God for that Sir Josiah John Guest , listen . Xotbing wiil bring men to consideration sooner than oppression . Deep meditation makes men philosophers ; and-once a philosopher , if he be not an abject beisg who has sold himself to all wickedness and unbridled desires , he will become to know iis right as a t ^ -h and a citizjn . " There is no need to think the Divil fcr his kindness , " is in old Ejiig , older than you or ma 2 \ o thanks to the hellish set , that is the question , becasse tLsy are by nature so ungodly and S ^ disb , that they will do no good bat by force , ard wholly against thrir will .
I am sorry to assert tkat you bold tfee same relation to the worfcr . ea tnd the pocr , the residents of the Bastsies , as the old serpent , Satan , holds to the damned in hell If we — ili f git Satan with the energy of a sincere heart , Gcd ¦ will tiTe aid to . escape fr-jin his iron iacfs So , if the people cf our country "will unite with Eacerehecrts to prevent you end your a £ sociit € 3 , er these iclks of the same r . aisp , frirn going into Parlizniat to talk nonsense , acd that nonsense , terminating : e ojtressici ! , ard fx in lieu cf you honest , veracious , and virtuous m * n , perhaps JoLn F-iirplay ¦ rill ccse to shake hasds with * John Bull , and reltsse him cf a tnrthen Vnich will make him occe core a free John . Bat Tre nest rttntmber , " there is no cerd to thank rhe DcTil for his tizdness . " Did you belieTe that the TTcrirxen of ilrrthyr had forgot the part ycu played in the czse of the Glasgow cotton spumers 1 Ei : ha ¦ D ' -i tch r . c-t str > the w-A with r ° nr nit ? Yes , with- your ovm -Picked fsi Ycu knovr :: ¦ -1 nDvrar'Is of
< . i- . ^ Tuana c : : z . ~ orkiDg milt' iltrihyr sigaea me Rational P ^ tlucn . Did y ; u .--appirt thtir petition ' : y ^ . Then , bv ailreison , th = v hite you frcm the utni ' . st recesses o : their hearts . It is not all plea ^ 'J . re to dcgn . de ka thelands . Time -inU teJL "Where wers I ;' - " ' - ' - the time llr . Dunccmi-e pruStatrd a pttiii ^ n for tc-. ressir : htr V ; j- ; -: t in crcer to rekase those whom tjn ^^ cui jK-lit : c _ : c-fetdtrs ? It is true 7011 were in Di-svlais , having erected a chapei to preach and Dul » liih the iLtrcj of &--i . Eut , friend , did y ^ u exercise the ori . r ;_ nir 7 vLich viscfcred tju bj Mr . Dunccmbe to ~ -17 \^" cy _' -o th-. se trho are is prison in cold holes . E y ~ -----= ¦ tn ! --r tne crta-iful , terrifving , and deviiiih i - ; Jts than the
, ~ " ^ : , r ^ r ^ nns paics verse pa ; ns % ? ti f ^ . ^ - '^^ eyc-urseif ; you turted tte CfsJcor tc-. ^ r-s the Toiccof mercy , -when ycu c-ould cave shjwa _ E . eicy , al ± &afh you and every body els * are n ., her cistint with your account -when nothing but aercy Trill ^ "le the bilL t vP ^^' - ' ^ V '^^ '^^ aSi'tery built the chapel : t = * -, r . t- " - ~ ^ - LC : T ' l" 2 '' "' ^^ ttLe 5 ' taTe set ^ in ti-c ::---v ' ^ . ~ i T- ? c " * ' " "p :-3 yen by rcj-. cting yea , and I am . yoTirs , Do yoi cak £ Toa axylobiv
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^ 'OTZL APPROPRIATION OF A BENEFIT SOCIETY'S rUNDS "VESTED IN THE SATI . VGS- BANK or tv * ? r > : rop *>— " KH induced to reqeest the inFertion 01 tfcs letur in ycur extensively circulated Star , -well csa-ifiEg that it 3 columns are always er > en for any ini-rmatttn -which has a tendency to ameliorate the "I ^ 40- conditi on cf the working classes , v . , ? ° ' ^ becring class of inhabitants of this ^ roegh have bejn sabjecUd to very great privations in tte winter Season , owing to & difficulty in procuring £ - £ kc-esssry article of coal ; indeed , to such extremes Iks tats rnrtticn Lnived , that , in the severe winter « ^—2 ° . i ' - ^ is sold as high as three Ehiilkigs
In order to obviaie nich occurrences for the future , Ta&ous meass h-ve ban adopted , such as coal clubs cyEoae of the b ^ neTo-ent and wealthy inhabitants ; zzz others i ^ siituted by the cprratives only , but which pjf ca 2 j part : al ? y diminished the probabilities of diswas arising from the like cause . Ko » , Mr . Eaitor , the point to which I wisli to draw i ~ e attenaca cf year rt-ders is , the subject of Sick f ^ Sociefe s and SiTii ^ s Banks ; we have a aorashiEg society of thzt description in this town , who ts ^ v TK 7 ^^' - ^ ersble ram deposited in the Savings ' *»¦ & * . The members of this society knowing from past E ^ aace their liabilities , recently agreed to appropna . e a port on cf their fan-is to the purchase of coals 01 of their members as required * them , and who *! Peed to pay one shilling and sixpence per month for e&sa ton of coal supplied to them until the whole is « -ca < fcd to tbsm ; a : ting upon this agreem . &&t , the
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ofiicerB . oi the cociety gare the requisite notice to the conductors of the Savings , ' Banks of drawing out the required sum for . that purpose ; when the Acting Manager , who is one of the Borough Magistrates , expressed & doubt m to- the legality of applying any part of * be -funds to ssch purpose . Thus ctrcumsUnced , and desirous that their proceedings should be strictly legal , tiwy wwte to John Tidd Pratt , Eaq ., BuiisWr s > t Law , stating the . ease , « Bd Tdgiwsting his opini&n upon the subject . An answer has been received to the effect , that sach an appropriation of the funds was perfectly legal In consequence of the above answer , all those members wh © require it are being supplied with one , two , or three tons of coals % > on the foregoing conditions ; which cot oaly secures them against the contingency of a severe winter , but protects them from , the rapacious coal merchant , aad effects a saving of fonrsmd sixpence per cwt
My object in writing this is to give publicity to the subject , for the purpose of inducing others placed in similar circumstances to avail themselves of this information before the winter sets in , and go and do likewise ; and by the bye , if it is legal for the members of a Benefit Club , to supply themselves with coal from their funds , I can see no reasen why they may not be supplied with such a thing as a sack of flour , or many othbr articles upon the same principle , and thereby humble the pride and arrogance of the sbopocracy , bo u to compel them to acknowledge that the toiling millions are worthy of the franchise , for ttey are capv ble of conducting their own . effaire ; to say nothing about the effect upon Government , that the withdrawal of large . sums from the Saving * Basks would produce . Mr . Editor , as this is intended to benefit my fellew man , I trust to ba excused in any error I may have fallen into , an 4 am , with sincere respect , Tours , in the cause of Democracy , E . L Northampton , Oct . 11 , 1841 . m
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CASE OF DISTRESS . TO THB EDITOR OF THE NORTHERN STAB . Sib , —Oa the 7 th of August last , Mary Appleby , the wife of William Appleby , of Northwood-street , was delivered of three children , and her husband being out of employ , the poor woman is in a state of starvation . Sir , I will not attempt to describe the wretched state of this poer . helpless family ; but hope you will notice in your invaluable paper that the husband is onfc of empioy . The three helpless children are named as follows : —first Mary Aune ; second , Maria ; third , FeargU 3 William , in honour of that noble patriot Feargns O'Connor . - Sir , by inserting the above , you will much oblige , Tour most obedient servant , John Lisemore . Upper Hospital-street , 17 Court , Birmingham , Oct . 11 , 1 S 41 .
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TO THB EDITOR OF THE NORTHERN STAR . Sis , —As a constant subscriber to your widely circulating journal , I hope you will find space in your valuable paper for the following : — Arthur Blackburn , a member of the old body of Methsdists for above forty years in this town , and was chapel doorkeeper f jr a number of years at St Peter ' s , tlkd of three days' sickness en the the 25 th of September 'Saturday ) , and was buried on Sunday , the 26 ; h ; and the Christian body thought proper to deprive the widow of that day ' s pay ( Sunday ; , which came to 9 d , and charged the poor widow 16 s . for opening and shutting the gTave ^—a piece of ground which he , when he lived , purchased , and paid above £ 3 for it He was paid quarterly for being chapel doorkeeper , and his quarter happened to be up on the day he was buried . He was a good liver among the body to which he belenged , and an upright man .
Now , please to compare this with the late William Dawson of the tame body , and by so doing you will much oblige , Tour Humble Bervant , his John X HiUKER , mark , A Member of that Body . October 7 tb , 1841 .
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CAXIZtlSItE . Important Decision as to Municipal Voters . —A Court was held a few days ago , at the Town Hall , before John Dixon , Esq ., Mayor , Mr . Simon Pattmson , druggist , and Dr . Barnes , the two assessors for the borough , for the purpose of revising the Burgess List . It appeared that , in tho Ward of Botchergate , the ovcTseeT , Mr . Donaid , had been taking unwarrantable liberty in reducing the number of names upon the" Burgess List . In 18 ^ 7 the list contained upwards of 600 persons , all of whom at that time were deemed eligible to vote ; but sinco this overseer came into office , he has frktered away the number from time to time , till at present the lis : contains oaly aboa : 100 names . This overseer , at the
dictation of a Whig clique , -who wish to make the Burgess Lift subservient to their own sinister purpose ' , has gone upon the wholesale principle oi disfranch- ' -ement , by patting all off the Bargess List who cio tot pay the poor-rates directly . In consequence of his officious conduct , about 140 persons sent in claims to the Town Clerk , to have their namc-3 placed upon the Burgess Li ^ t : of course , it was 3 eft to the Mayor and assessors to decide how far Mr . Donald , the overseer , had acted in accordance with the FpiriD of the Act of Parliament . Messrs . Bowman and M'Kenzie acted on behalf of the claimants , who were , generally speaking , not able to attend , from the nature of their employment . A long desultory discussion took place on the subject of landlords comronncing for their rates , as it had bf en
decided on a former occasion that no tenant was entitled to be placed on the Burgess List whose landlord cc-mpoui . ded fcr the rates . It was finally decided , however , that as the compounding was a matter of convenience with the parish , and as a greater amount of rates was got in that way , than if the tenements were rated separately , that all tho .-e tenants bhonld be placed upon the Burgess List , providing the rates were all paid up to the time required by the Act of Parliament . It was also decided that all tenants , who ? e landlords paid the rate ? , Wi-re also e ' . ^ ible to be placed on the Burgess R : > 11 . O : ; t of 140 claims put- in , 136 were sustained . ' Thus have the vile and selfish designs of a few disappointed Whigs b : en successfully frustrated by the extrtior . s of a few individuals , and the very liberal decision of the Jlsvor and assessors .
B 2 . ATF 03 . D . —One day last week , the V . 'hi ^ s wer : i thi oa ^ h the farce of nominating constables tor the ensuing year , and a most stupid affair it was , ihey-b-jieg " left alone in their glory . " _ Mr . Salt occurred the chair , for the purpose of receiving the nomii : at : ons of h : s £ ;> n and a Mr . Euok , who beii : g caly proposed ar . d seconded , were , with the assistance of the Uiiraau ' o rignc liana friend and spokesman , pat a ::-d carried . A vote of thanks was accorded to the Chairman for his efficient service ? ,
which he , probably thinking it n ^ re complement , had not the goou manners to acknowledge , and turning im buck upon the audience was aoout to Hike his exit , but on being reminded by liis supporter on the kit thai his arduous duties were not " quite terminated , having a stiil greater effort to perform in recording a nii :: \ itc of iht formal uansa-jtijn : r , ; he Yc ? try liick , he remained to complete the burlesque . llLaiiy , if tie humblest mechanic in the Ct . « irman ' s empluyrceut had not acquitted himsd : ' : iin :: ; ttly better , we should have declared him mierlv unfit for Uni -. ers 3 l Suffrage . —Corespondent
DUNDEE . —The contest betwixt the Chcriists and the factions in the election of Police Commissioners for this place took place on Wednesday last , a ^ d excited an interest greater than any which we ever before witnessed at a borough election . The Chartis-. s held a meeting on Tuesday evening , which was numerously attended . At this meeting the conduct of the pciice in attending pnblic meetings in the character of spies was by the various speaKers severely reprobated . Resolutions were come to , p ; edgis ' g the electors ikon present to exert all their itilueucc- to return men to the beard who would put a stop to seen , a system , &a . By an early hour on . Wednesday all was bustle . The system ot keeping " open houses" was resorted to by both Whigs
and Tories—so much did they interest themselves in keeping out the Chartists . The conclusion of the poll-Lg showed , however , that democracy was not to , be- dui down by such foul means ; and ihat neither fair promises nor whisky could induce the people either to abandon their principles or their friends . Although we had some instances of barefaced renegadism oa the part of those of whom better things might have been expected ; and , although we have loss the services of some useful and honest men , yet , upon the whole , it was a decided , and ( as far a 3 we have beard ) a bloodless victory in favour of the great and glorious cause oi Chartism . Mr . Corstorphan , the superintendent , we are credibly informed , after carefully examining the tew list of Commissioners , made up his mind to resign his office rather than encounter tae
opposition from that quarter which he expected to meet with . But , alas , how short sighted , how fxail , and helpless a creature is man . He had scarcely formed hi 3 opinion ere the hasd of death relieved Mm from tiie cares of an earthly office . He conducted the cases before tho Polica C / mrt , on Thursday , in his capacity ss public prosecL'tor , as usual , retired up stairs to his parlour after , a ^ tl stretched himself upon a sofa , to read a newspap ° -r , from which he never rose again . The cause of de . ith is not properly ascertained . As an oScer he was severe and rigorcn =. When he came hero first , instigated by two magistrates we could name , he ma de an ineffectual blow at- the Chartist cause , and has continued less or more our enemy ever since , but he & . * w at last that they were too powerful for him . The situation is an excellent one , and many applicants l o doubt will soon be in t ' ue field foi it . But if ibis x ^ ee ta the eje oi
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any of them , they may rest assared that although they had it they will find that they cannot bold it long without they respect the rights of the poor . Mr . C . was a shrewd , active man , about middle age . He has left a widow and two children .
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Me . Gbimshvw , who was town-clerk of - the borough of Wlgan from 1818 to the passing of the Municipal Reform Act , 1836 , is claiming £ 7 , $ 4 % as compensatioB for loss of his offices . '" . ' . . ' .. The removal of Sanderland light-house from the north pier in an entire state to the eastern extremity of the pier , a distance of nearly 500 feet , was safely and successfully completed . The original South Foreland Light , which was among the first erected in England , is cow under process of demolition , being already almost levelled to the foundation . By the death of W . Harrison , Esq ., Q-C , the following lucrative appointments have become vacant . —Council to the Treasury and the War Office , and Attorney-General to the Duchy of Coinwall . :
Sir Thohas Wilde , the ex-Attorney General , was thrown from his horse , the other day , near Southgate ; luckily the honourable gentleman fell on his head , and by that means escaped any very serious injury ! The amount of silver co ' n and bullion shipped at Dover iu September , 1841 , was 280 , 555 ounces . One of the last acts of Lord Melbourne ' s administration was to give a pension of £ 50 per annum to Miss Clapperton , sister of the African traveller . Dispropobtiow of Wealth . —A too great disproportion of wealth among citizens weakens any state . Every person , if possible , ought to enjoy the fruits of his labour , in a full possession of all the necessaries , and many of the conveniences , of life . No one can
doubt bat such an equality is most suitable to human nature , and diminishes much less from the happiness of the rich than it adds to the poor . It also augments the power of the state , and makes any extraordinary taxes or impositions be paid with more cheerfulness . Where the riches are enjoyed by a few , these must contribute very largely to supplying the public necessities ; but when the riches are dispersed among multitudes , the burden foels light on every shoulder , and the taxes make not a sensiblo difference on any one's way of living . Add to thiB , that where tho liches are in few hands , these must erjoy all the power , and will readily conspire to lay ah the burden on the poor , and oppress them still farther , to the discouragement of all industry . — Hume .
A Fortunate Discovert . —A few days ago a poor labouring man , named Warren , residing at No 3 , Rose street , Seven Dials , purchased , at a second-hand boot and shoe shop , belonging to a man named William Mason , in Monmouth-street , Seven Dials , some Bluchers for himself and children , for three pairs of which he paid 8 a . Thurday morning , after he had worn the boots for about half an hour , and as he was going out for the purpose of resuming the labours of tho day , he felt one of his boots pinch him at the Bide , and ripping up the lining for the purpose of removing some hard substance that he imagined he felt within , he was most agreeably surprised to find between the side lining and the upper
leather ten £ 5 Bank of England notes , which had evidently been most carefully secreted by their former owner . The poor fellow ' s joy knew no bounds , and ere long the whole neighbourhood was made acquainted with his good fortune , as he regaled , in the afternoon , his most intimate friends and neighbours with a dinner , defrayed from the pecuniary assistance thus unexpectedly received . It is supposed that the boots in question formerly belonged to a miser named Andrews , for many years a resident in the Dials , and who lately died , leaving property to the amount of several thousand pounds , the whole of which has fallen into the possession of his brother , a mechanic , living in the same locality .
The parties who have been so busy in getting up petitions and memorials to her Majesty , praying her not to prorogue Parliament without taking into consideration the corn question and other measures , might as well have spared themselves tho trouble . They trusted to have the opportunity of laying them at the " foot of the throne , " as they term it , forgetting how distasteful it is to royalty to be bored with the mention of vulgar misery and distresses . The memorialists will be indulged in no such luxury , either themselves or by deputy . They , or Lord Kinnaird for them , have been informed by the Lord in Waiting ( Byron ) that it is her Majesty ' s pleasuro to receive the petitions only through the Secretary of
tne llf . me Department . Him , as he is paid for it , her Majesty judges to be the propsr person to bs tormented and plagued with such trivial matters as the starvation of the community , and an increased supply of food . Avaunt ! ye starving wretches—keep away from Court . Presume not even to think that ycu will be permitted to set a foot within royal palaces in order to set forth your sufferings and wrong ? . These will bo only attended to in the regular way when sent tkrough the regular channels . They will be received courteously , and lodged safely enough in the Home-office ; but if you should fancy that one farthing ' s worth benefit will result therefrom , you are greater fools than most oi your neighbours .
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IRELAND'S WOES AND REMEDY . It is refreshing to perceive that all Irishmen are not besotted ; that there is some life of patriotism which views the gangrene in its own foulness , and apart from the foul dressings of the great political empiric . As evidence of this , we have great pleasure in giving the following article cut from an Irish paper , and sent to us by a friend : — " To -what purpose are all the Pailiamcntary Committees in relation to Ireland ?—They do not even touch the surface of th 8 gangrene—Why ? Because the whole produce of the country is cjllected into the
granaries of ten or n (' czsn sections of legalised quacks , ; and the residue of ths population are left to feed with the p ' . ga upon roots ami garbage !—This is the true and simple source of Ireland ' s poverty—but where is the Parliamentary Committee , or any other committee , or association , that tells yon this ? Not one—they all peep through their eye-glasses at the surface of the body of corruption , and they etart at its horribly ulcer-, ated ijspect ; but not a man of them , in or out of tho , house , has the manliness to touch the core of the dis- i ease—consequently , Ireland ' s doctors ( and they are numerous ; are either abominable quacks or damnably inroosiora . Not , only taluk , if the crop on a farm of
l < j . 0 i > 0 acres were gathered into one granary , aud tUere reserved for ths luxurious living of a single man , while tiie labourers employed in saving the immense harvest had beuii referred to the rusts that had escaped the spa-. le find scjt ' ae , for a maintenance proportioned to their wants . Q : A-j think , we say , of the grave and supkrit oiRce cf a pack of quidnuncs , deliberating , in a tokmn assembly , as to the best method of cuiiug the disease ot porcity , arising from this UhUiaited monopoly of the produce of the farm , ¦ without once hinting the r . c-: eaalty of lijing a strong legislative fiager upon the mom-poly itieUi—Oily think of this , and then girc y-.-uT opinion of the cjir . patacy of there sapient legislators , or of the sact-mongera who traffic in the ignorance an' ! crvduiiij- of tbo peo ^ l-j for their own profit , to restore to the population on such a farm , a more wise and equitable or . Ier o : things .
"U is With Ireland exactly as with the farm just n-y . icsd—it 3 conquerors have handed it over as a rich monopoly to haif a dczen sections of its own creatures , &sd tbess , having gathtved into their respective granaries the essential produce oitke land , the people ore left to feed or uie upon the roots and garbage , as circumstances may happen to direct . You have your church granaries for your bhuopa , with tear hundred thousand or two hundred thousand r . crea of fat church lands , ¦ whilo the woikicg clergy , in divers instances , are left to starve . [ Quere—YVuuid rob one Hsaop fur each province be quite encugh ?] You have your deaneries and pluralities in the rere of these . You havt your college granary , with lands amounting to tho revenue of a rich German prince , together with large and liberal
contributions from all the pupils , to make that granary overflow . [ Quere—Would not these pupil's fees be a sufficient e ~ 'i ! ipe : isation for the instruction of their masters ;] Yon cave your Poor Law granary at Somerset House , in London , v ? ith thousands a year to each of the legalised commissioners , with £ 700 a year to each of their assistants , with enormous taxes upon ail the householders of the kingdom , "with able-bodied paupers in poor-hcuses , doing nothing for their oyn support ; and ¦ w ith armies of beggars iu the capital and country , that neither our Poor Law system , nor [ our burking system extensively carried on for the supply of the Scotch markets , can visibly reduce ! With these and a thousand other granaries that might ba named , the
produce of the couutry is swallowed up—the industrious population ere left to struggle or to starve—the numerous claims that come upon them they cannot meet—the revenues of the laud ore drained away—and the once prosperous manufactures of the eountry that would have supplied this drain , have been comparatively extinguished ! Such is and ha 3 been the state of Ireland sinca it was made an English draw-farm by the act of Union ; and unless the population join handin-hand in order to restore their extinguished manufactures by a wise progressive syatem of support , the country must expire . Its beggars have progressed aB its trade declined ; and this will be its experience even to the end of the chapter .
" Now if Heavtn lias conferred upon this country inexhaustible resources ; and if G > xi ia everywhere present to open the understandings and guide the energies of his people j then why , in the namo of ccmaisn sense , why so many impostor gods to ect up the produce of the land , and leave the trading classes to contend with difficulties that overwhelm , and the labourers and artisans nothing to support their families but the roots that have escaped the mower ' s scjthe ? " Were Mr . Snarman Crawford ' s proposed law of landlord and tenant brought into operation , this widespread oppression of tha peasantry would receiTe &
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¦¦ - ¦¦ ' - ¦ " ¦ V ' ¦ 1 ¦ i gentle check . A country ( such as the North of Ireland once was ) combining manufactures with agriculture , newwu , * nd nerer will be , overrun with paupers destitute of employment , and perishing for want of food—but this rational and Christian system being incompatible with a wholesale monopoly of land , it is coMNflaenUy rejected by those who haye consented to the banishment of our manufactures , and subscribed to the English plan of converting Ireland into a drawfarm , aad a consumer of the goods whioh England , by her capital and machinery , exclusively produces . It is to
" . this system of munojoly we ore Indebted for the physical eriis frbidh afflict oorcomjtry . Ireland , placed under wise , Christian regulations , would frovido more than twenty millions of men with every comfort essential to the well-regulated enjoyment of human life ; and yet , with a population of less than nine millions , she is comparatively starving ] This is an evil . ' that ought not to be borne—that hone bnt traitors to their country will subscribe to—and in handling finch a subject he must be a despicable coward and a slave who will speak of its injustice in measured language . " This is doubtless a right estimate of the source of mischief ; but it falls short of devising the actual remedy , whioh can exist only in the power ot lawmaking possessed by the whole people . The " property" olasseB will never remedy the evils of their own creation .
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UPPINGHAM , Rutland . —Mr . Editor , —By inserting the following in your paper of next Saturday , you will extremely oblige the friends of true liberty that dwell in these Tory-ridden counties . We are very thinly scattered , and as an instance of this feet , I feel it my duty to say that Mr . Robert Hames , of Oundle , an independent gentleman , is the only person of that town , who dares publicly to avow the principles of Chartism . He has been , and now is , a great friend to this aud every good cause . I am the only person in Wildon , that can bid defiance to the local tyrants . On Friday night , a meeting of the total abstinance society was held in the Town Hall , at Oundle , after which , the friends of teetotalistn met at Mr . Francis ' s to transact business relating to the society . This important place has been
shamefully neglected by the professors of Christianity , but now some hare made an effort . The principles of teetotalism and the Charter are rapidly prevailing . Agitation and consistency alone are wanting . Mr . Hames , although a moderate drinker , gave 2 s . 6 A . to suppress intemperance , and told the persons that addressed the meeting he wanted Chartist lecturers also , and that he will give them something when they come to Oundle . I agree in every respect with the real National Charter Association ,, and should feel proud of my name being enrolled in it . I view the new move party as false friends and opponents of universal right We must have the Welsh martyrs back . I am always thinking of them and have a board out at my door daily in behalf of them . I rejoice to hear that our undaunted friend Dr . M'Douall has been at our county town , and that
the Chartists there are alive , though Whiggery is buried and comfortable . One of the Council at Northampton informs me that this county is likely to be agitated forthwith . I hope the Executive of Manchester will be supported . We will have the Charter and nothing less illustrated . The useful people only want to hear of it from the mouths of their fellow men and women , to embrace its welcome points . All parties confess that something must now be done , to relieve the present distress of our native land , although Sir Robert is for consideration . I have been a teetotaller about five years and a Chartist ever since I got a . glimpse of the Norlh&rn Slar . I am indebted to a working man of Kettering for the information of your publication , that has been such an incomparable enemy to despotism . —I am , Sir , yours very respectfully , William Cooper .
MANSFIELD . —A ( large meeting took place in ths Market Place on Thursday last Mr . Monks was unanimously called to the chair , who stated that tne object of the meeting was to memorialise tke Home Secretary on behalf of our suffering brother , Robert Peddie , and to hear a lecture from Mr . Dean Taylor , the Charti&t missionary for this county . The Chairman called upon Mr . Thomas Dutton to propose the memorial , who did so in a brief speech . Mr . llussell , from Nottingham , seconded it in a neat speech . Mr . D .
Taylor supported it in a masterly manner , by depicting the cruel sufferings of our imprisoned brethren . A vote of thanks was given to the Chairman , which , like the memorial , was passed unanimously . The meeting quietly separated , after purchasing a quantity of Chartist papers . The Chartists met in thuir room , in the Lawn , on Sunday last , to transact their business . A letter was read from our esteemed friend , Samuel Hoiberry , a Chartist prisoner in York Castle—the sum of 6 s . has been collected , and sent this week to Holbewy .
LEICESTER . —The movement goes on steadily , and yet rapidly , as ever . Tlie entire number of new members last week was forty : this added to the increase of fifty , forty-four , forty-two , and sixty-two , of the weeks proceeding , ( all removals , deaths , &c taken into the reckoning , ) bring us within about forty of five hundred : that half-way step towards one thousand we shall shortly reach , though it iuay not ba this week , on account of our October fair . We have nothing to say by way of news , save that we keep labouring on , each iu his vocation , spreading the great truths of Chartism among all with whom each of us come in contact , and each of us endeavouring to bring up our man to receive his card , as soon as he confesses himself fully and heartily convinced that the Charter is right . The weather being unfavourable on Sunday , Mr . Cooper was compelled to give up the projected open air meeting , and addressed as many as could possibly squeeze
into the room of All Saints . Open , at night , from " He that lovetu not his brother whom he h ^ tli seen , how can he love God whom he hath not seen ? " On Monday niyjht , Mr . Cooper being much indisposed , did not enter ou the intended series of lectures ou Astronomy , but addressed the assembly in the Guildhall for a short time , on tho life of the illustrious Newton . Messrs . Suiarfc and MarKham contributed to the evening ' s instruction also , by able remarks at some length , partly on the advantages of knowledge , and furthermore , on the general aspect of political affairs at tho present ti : ; ia We are taking steps for securing the Guildhall as a place of meeting on Sundays , during the winter ; are making arrangements for the O'Connor demonstration ; for getting signatures to the National Petition , fee . ; and in the midst of all this , we are endeavouring to perfect our class system , so as to secure the greatest financial effects from our limited resources .
NKWCASTI / E . —On Sunday evening , Mr . Morgan preached in the Chartists' Hall , Goat Inn , Clt > th Market , to a very attentive audience , after which several members joined tho Association . Mr . Morgan had good meetings at the following placts this week , tit all of which they pledged themselves to the Ch irter , and nothing less than the Chart * r , v ' z , Felling Hhnro , lihvi Qsavrk p , Wriefcington , and ] talling ' : cn . Mr . M . is sorry that the inclemency of the weather rendered it utte .-Jy impossible to tetjp his appointment with the scod tneu and true of Us worth , last week .
The Chartists of Newcastle held their weekly business meeting on Monday oveniug . Mr . Dses having been oiled to tho chair , the Secretary read the minutes of last meeting , which were coiitirrued . Ho likewise read several letters , which lie was instructed to reply to . Mr . Crathus introduced Mr . McPherson , of Aberdeen , who submitted to the meeting a proposed piaa for ; is 3 ociat : ng in one body the productive classes of this country , to be designated the Universal Association of Producers . The following resolutions were then agreed to . Int . That the . Secretary be instructed to write to
Mr . O'Bfien , requesting him to become a candidate for this district to represent us in the forthcoming Convention , aud that 'die different localities in the di strict be corresponded with , apprising thorn of the same . 2 ml , That the Treasurer bo imtructc-d to purchase a re ^ m u ! paper for the N&tieaol Petition , iiccotding to tho dimensions given by the Executive . Taut a general meeting of the Members be held in the Cbartiats' Hail , Goat Inn , Cioth Market , on Monday evening tho 18 ih instant , to nominate a tit and proper person to represent the district of Northumberland and Durham in tho forthcoming Convention .
CUSSBU 21 N . —The Chartists here held their usual weekly meeting on Sunday last , which was numerously attended , and several new members were enrolled . The address of the Executive , recommending the appointment of a Convention , to meet in London , in the Month of February , was read , and , after considerable discussion , the following resolutions ware carried unanimously : — " Tbat this meeting highly approve of the plan of the Executive , relative to the appointment of a Convention , to meet in London , in February , and pledge themselves to aid in carrying it out with every means in their power . " " That the conduct of Charles Attwood , Esq ., at the Corn Law meeting held in the Guildhall of Npwcastleupon-Tyne , on the 6 th of October , in bringing forward an address to her Majesty , endeavouring , though" a breach of faith , to pledge the Chartfsts there assembled to tha Malthusian doctrine of tha country not being able to maintain ita inhabitants / and endeavouring to blink the question of
Universal Suffrage , under the Whig term of extension of the Suffrage , ' after the solemn pledge given in his name to the committee of final An-augerrienta , which sat the evening before , and which , committee was composed of deputations-. of the Ouseburn and Newcastle Chartists , that the parts of the address struck out by them Bhould be left out , end the other parts altered to the -words and meaning then approved of , and on which pledge alone they consented to Mr . Attwood ' s moving an address , la unggntlemanly and dictatorial , and done solely with the view of recovering , by means of the Chartists , his lost popularity , and we deem him to be totally undeserving of any confldeuce or respect from the Chartists of England ; and we , the Chartists of Oasebura , pledge ourselves never to have any further connexion with either him , his Corn Law , Colonies , his currency humbugs , his extension of the suffrage , or bfs one pound notes , our motto being simply the Charter . "
A Political Lecture is delivered In the Chartists ' room , near Bvker Bar , on every Tuesday evening , at seven o ' clock .
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, BRADFORD , Nelson-Street . —On Sunday last , the democrats in this district , assembled at the house of Mr . Wm . Smith , when an association was formed . It was determined to join and to support the National Charter Association . - IK 9 HOON . —The Social Hall , John-street , Tottenham Court Road , having by ita spirited Committee been thrown open for publio discussion , the Chartista of the Metropolis , ever on the alert , took advantage of this Circumstance , and proposed for discussion the following query : — " Would the People ' s Charter , if it became the law of the land , remove the distress of the country ? " The discussion came off on Friday evening , at eight o ' clock . The place was crowded to exoess , and many were unable to procure admission . Mr . Good
fellow having proposed the subject , opened the question , stating tbat it was with diffidence he appeared before such an assembly , he being but an uneducated ¦ working man , yet he . was proud to acknowledge himself a Chartist , and wonld , to the best of his ability , advocate the principles of Chartism . That great distress existed in the country would be most readily admitted by all parties , bnt each had their separate scheme to relieve it . One party says there is no remedy but the repeal of the Corn laws—another none but Emigration . He was there to propose to them the Charter as a remedy and be believed it would be a safe- and efficient one . The Sovereign herself from the Throne admitted the distress , bnt lathe face of this a Parliament , calling itself the Commons House of Parliament , consulting its
own pleasures , caring nought for the distress of the country , adjourns fer its members to enjoy the sports of the shooting season , and proposes no remedy to remove the distress . Appeal after appeal : has been made to that House . Petition after petition has been presented , but how have they been treated ? Why , allowed to lay over to that day six months . It is useless to appeal to the parties in the present House of Parliament ; for however they may quarrel amongst themselves , they always combine to plunder and oppress the people . ( Hear , hear . ) The only remedy for this is to obtain every man a vote in the election of the Commons House of Parliament We should then be . able to return men who wonld endeaveor to remove the causes which have created the present distress . It has been
objected that we are Levellers , Destructives , &c . I utterly deny it We are for liberty to all—tyranny to none . We repudiate the idea of physical force—our only object is to obtain a true and just representation of the people , that they may be enabled to obtain b fair days wages for a fair day ' s work . Mr . Goodfellow here read extracts from Paine , Cartwright , Cobbett , Blackstone , &c-, shewing the justness aud desirability of our obtaining the Charter , and called upon all parties , whether Socialists , Corn Law Repealers , or whatever class or Beet they belonged to , to unite for the obtaining justice to their common country . They were all seeking the same great end . He had endeavoured to point out the means . All agreed upon the lamentable poverty and distress under which the working
classes were labouring . None could dispute it Let them look even to newspaper reports , and how often would they find them teeming with instances of persons dying of hudger and starvation , and of the jurors returning a verdict of " Died by the visitation of G d . " Such verdicts were a libel upon the character of the Almighty , were a blasphemy upon the God of creation Would that some honest jury would return a true verdict— " Died from the effects of class representation . " Ho called upon any who might oppose him to put aside all sophistry , and meet him on the broad ground of justice and humanity . ( Loud cheering . ) The Secretary here called upon some gentleman in accordance with the rules , to take the opposite sido of the question , but none appearing , Dr . Shotskie said he did not
intend to address them for the Charter or against the Charter . He intended to speak on the Charter . He considered that less distress existed in ancient times , because their wise men oftener communed together , were more united , because they travelled to all parts of the Globe to collect the good laws and customs of the whole . He thought most of the speakors at that Hall spoke too much by logic . He did not like logic , no go » d overcame by logic . He would tell them a fable . Once in ancient times there was great distress in the country , and the people wandered up and down till in a huge mountain they found a spacious cavern , and peeping through its crevices they saw it contained all the things they stood in need of , not only physically , but also such articles as the rights of man , Universal Suffrage ,
&c , and they further saw that but a very few were in the cavern , enjoying these good things . Weil , what was to be done ? Tho mouth of the cavern was blocked up with much stone , and they could get no entrance ; and they straight began to quarrel amongst themselves about the best means of getting at these good things . One parly were for getting a good quantity of gunpowder , and blowing it up—these he would call Republicans , but there were not many in this country . Another parly were for a crow bar , or some other leverage , by whioh they might lift up the mass of stone—these he would call tho Chartista . Others were for getting ropes , and dragging off the stones , and there they all stood quaneUicg , not one thought oi getting the ropes , the crow-bar , or the gunpowder , but
contented themselves with calling each other's method the wrong one . What we want is a large increase of the Democratic spirit , no matter where it came from . We wanted a broad basis of Union laid down , where all could lay asMe their minor differences ; it would take the concentrated union of the whole , to effect a Radical cure . See the wretched cose of a lad , eighteen years old , who died the other day in the hospital , attempting to swallow a little water gruel , having been unable to procure any food during the previous four days . He was ashamed of living in a countury where such things could take place . They heai \ 4 talk some times of the people being driven to rise against such a system , but they were in a too starved , too emaciated a condition over to rise . They had been drooping too
long , had too long been deficient of physical force strength , ever to rise in physical force against their oppressors . In Poland they rose , bocausa they met with a sudden deprivation of the neceasaties of life ; they had not been ground by the bastile system to the starvation point , or they never would have risen there . Ho called upon all , more especially tho young , to take part in these discussions , and enow they wore lit to onjoy the representation . The old gentleman sat down amidst much cheering . —Mr . Ridley said , Mr . Chairman , it h rather a strange thing at a discussion to see thres speakers on the same side of tbo question . I have a few words of opposition to efftr to the last speaker . Ht > has told you he does not like loi » ie , and that we are too logical . I am for Isglc ; it ia the art
of reavming , whert ^ y wo may discover that of v . Inch wo nre in search—tho true and right road to human hnppiness . He also told you that in ancient times thi-y did not want foci , becaiu ^ their wise un : i \ . < ifu : n communed toother ; but , my friends , this is not thu caso here ; our wise men coiumuno together too frequently , for us ; they have become toy wise , nn ; l , by their wisdom , have reduced us to our present deplorably condition ; i . ut it was not the wisdom of tho sa ^ u tl ; u . t creaU-. i th ' . < jtrospcrity of mick-nt Gr . ceo ; U v , a 3 tho innato love of libeuy which burned i ; i thtir bosomi , which caused them to stand erect in th- ir manhood , and vnlk as yo . ls on taith . 'fix burning de-ire of iiborty pervadtd their hearts ; it tvavemd each vein i . ' their m tn ! y b ^ sjuis , and they disdained to be U ; . >
sycoplunt slaves of a tyrannical despot . Do you fh : d tt . ia burning current pervading yi ur boHoms ? Nu I ye aro : i raco of servile slaves , one and all , or ye wouid rise erect as men , nnd ttemnnri your freedom—would Btrniiu .-v ^ ry nerve to aluiiah ihe prtsent accursed system—Vuuiii , in a voice of thunder , demand tho Suffrage . If yo valued liberty as I value it , ye would attain It without Wo idshod . He must be a flen 4 , aad not a maa , that thirsts for the nlooil of his follow nnn—ihenr , hfca > . hear , and cheers )—yet such U the cftlct of the prtsei . t system , that in my late tour to syreud the principles of the Charttr , through the county of Wilts , the authorities set tho blood-hounds of dtspotio power upon my track . Gj where I w . 'uld , thi-y followed on my luir , thirsting to gratify their emi'ii ytrs' love of vi ; if ; c-anca ,
and yet theso men were couip- 'llrd to ba slaves to this vicious system to obtain the nitiiua to keep their wires and children from starvation . L ^» r - Hiuloy litro txliibiti'd a portion of tho bJ . ick bix-aii ot Wilts , for nkiu ' .. tho farmers compelled their nn . 'ii to pay the b : st pricv . ] ( Cries of ahunic . ) Muny in thia assembly aro of opinion that no good could be cfilcted unless we first get possession of the land . True , the land is our iuhtirltar . ee , but of what use will be the land unless we have the title-deeds ; unless we have our birthright , the Suffrage ; we are for v- clasa distinctions ; we will unite with one and all , on tho braid principle cf justice , fcr that right of which no human laws can deprive us . Let us then throw nsMo ' our pttty feuds and j-jalousies , let U 3 away with all paltry quililstes . aud declare to the despots of
the land tlat Wvi are capable of managing our own affairs ; that despite of their cry of ignorance , we are intelligent enough to see that the rights of capital have been protected , while those of labour have been neglected , and that we have spirit enough to determine that this shall no longer exist ; this is the causo cf justice and of truth . There is no is : n in this ; it embraces the whole , without distinction of creed , class , or colour . We do not covet the possessions of others ; true , they obtained them by violence and fraud , bat we are willing to forgive the past ,- we want only the power to rectify the future ; we desire to see our country no longer blasted with the evils of starvation ; we desire to see our sires and our mothers , when unable any longer to toil and spin , no longer to be separated from each other , from everything that is dear to them , no longer to ba treated like dogs in a union bastile , but in their
to see-them-end their last days own happy homes in comfort and in peace ; we desire to see our children inherit a state of freedom and prosperity , and no longer to see them fill murdtrcd victims to a system of shameles . 3 inhumanity . The Bible tells us , that when God created man , he created him in his own image , "in tbo image of God created he him . " He naver created a King , a Lord , a Duke , or a Lady ; all were created equal . If any man is superior to me in intelligatce , it is not by nature—it is by tuition ; it is because be has been better educated . He has been to college , and I have not , or I might have been his equal , or perhaps his superior , for I thirst after knowledge . Give us then tho power of making equal laws , and wo will soon change the present howiiug wilderness into a beauteous paradise , where all shall be animated witli the noblo spirit of the patriot Tall . ( Mr . Ridley here gave some beauteous lines from William Tell , and sat down amid tremendous applause . ) Mr . Wall—Mr . Chairman , I
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cannot agree with some of the gents , who have preceded me ; they have denounced physical force . What has that to do with the Charter . removing the distress ? One informs you he is no friend to logis ; another wastes your time by informing -you what logic & One refers you to the wise age of Solon , and another to the innate-love of liberty in the Greeks . > Where was their love of their sages when they murdered them ? Surely they could not consider them wise . The question was , wonld the Charter remove the distress * Where is tha distress ? Why , amongst the working classes . Whence has it sprung ? Why , from the unequal distribution ot property . Yon have been told to forgive the past . I am not for forgiving the past . I am for obtaining ( I am not particular about the means )
the church property ; we should then need no Poos Law badge . I am for obtaining possession of all that has been wrested unjustly from us . Whence has arises our ' present miserable condition , bnt from the land being in the possession of a few ; we want a change of representation for the House of Commons , as a leverage to again get possession of our own . They , by their power of making laws , have been enabled to gain their property and influence , and oppress all who were not thus represented . Physical force had been objected to If you look at . the past history of man , when did ha ever get rid of his grievances , save by rising in arms ajainst them ? Look at America , for instance ; how did she acquire her freedom , bnt by an armed resist&ncHT It is my opinion , that tha Charter will not be a
complete remedy for our distress ; many of our distresses partake more of a social character . Look at America ; there we find them exercising the principles of thd Charter in their highest perfection ; yet there we find the same parties in the state , only the Tories are turned Whigs , the Whigs Radicals , and the Chartists loco foeo ' s ; but they have the same amount of distress that we have ; and they always hod . Look at their banking system ; allowing parties to overstock , to glut the market with paper money , for their profit , and withdraw it at pleasure , to the ruin of thousands . Even ia America parties were allowed to sell and purchase the land , to parcel it ont among the monied classes , depriving the poor of a resource to fall bock upon ; and thus we find bur Poor Laws , even in America we find .
even there , crowded jails ; and to their example we owe the infernal solitary confinement system . Our evils are more of a social than political character ; they arise from out class divisions , from our numberless religious sects , each looking upon ! the other , not as fellowmen , but as devils ; and the same would still bo the case , were we to have the Charter to-morrow ; bat still it would be a something gained ; oar petitions , our remonstrances , would stand some chance of being noticed , and therefore remedied . This was not the Case at present . Look at the time Hunt presented tha petition from Manchester against the Corn Laws ; only six members of the Commons' House voted for it , while one hundred and twenty-one voted against it ; that of this number forty were manufacturers , out of whom .
twenty are now the strong supporters of the Anti-Corn Law League ] How was it ? Why , they did not then feel the intolerable pressure . Their grievances were so numerous he might take np all his time only enumerating them . At the bead was the law of primogeniture , then the army and navy , then the national debt , and above all a state church . Ur . Ridley had said , if he had been sent to college he might have been more intelligent ; the case was the very reverse . Look at the parsons for instance , why they were the stupidest fellows hi the community . Look at the pamphlets wrote by their Bishops ; from the earliest time to that of Philpots , they were a disgrace to a school boy That great distress does exist was evident in this metropolis ; 126 , 100 human beings rose in the morning who knew not where to procure a meal' s victuals ; ( a friend said half a million ) . He would take a note of it . But when any grievance was to be removed , the only way
was to get tha House of Commons on your side . It v , aa so in Catholic Emancipation , and all other reforms . It was the same in this case . We must get a House of Commons , elected on the principles of the Charter , and we should then have a chance of fair play in the many evils we had to compete against—The Secretary said Mr . Wall had been partly for , partly against , and called upon any person to tako the opposite Bide . —Mr . Turner said he , as a Socialist , could not allow this question to pass without opposition , thinking it was put forth as a feeler , to Bee whether Chartism or Socialism was most in favour with the public . ( Cries of No , and Question . ) He would keep to the question , then . He oljocted to the Chartists , because in supporting their principles th-jy used such strong language , calling the men in pbwsr bloody despots , tyrants , 4 jC . He thought it was calculated to create evil feelings , indeed , he objected to all harsh name ' s . , Socialism tended to mollify the passions of these men . I rlo not think tha Charter will
remove tho distress ; it docs not go far enough ; it does not begin the right way . Of what use will it ba to elect the men of your choice : and cheer them through the street , if they do nothing afterwards ? I want to know what is" to be the ultimatum , how tho distress is to be relieved ? Show mo that , and I -would not object to the Charter . I believe tho great evil to ba competition , and to remove it we must take to co-operation . I object to your opposition to tho Corn Laws . If we cannot ,. get tho whole , it is not worth while to quarrel with a part If you cannot cut down the trtos , that is nd reason you should not lop off the branches . I am not bound to any system show me that yours ia best , and I will adopt it . —Hr . Stallwood said , I appear before you in a better position than any other of the
speakers , seeing I have to follow two opponent . ' . SI oat of the preceding speakers have wandered from tho subject , even while complaining of the wanderings of others . Ho would go direct to the subject The last speaker stated that if he could see in what manner the Charter would relieve the distress , he would become a supporter of it . The Charter , by giving a larger share of political power to the working clasps , wonld enablo them to return members to Parliament who would be intended in removing the present enormous amount of our indirect taxation aud substituting a property tsx in ita stead ; would not this be a something gained 'i Wa should plso , by having t !; e power ot governing ourselves , remove the great c * . uso of disaffection which now rxists , and the sovemtiieiit would be . no toncer forced to
maintain sucii an extensive military and nural force to keep us in subjection ; we should , be satisfied with ouv own management , even if it were not superior to the pre » i >; it , and we should bo enable ;'! to got rid of a host cf policemen , judges , bairisfers , &c . who -are now qtiaitered upon our resources . We should bo enabled to uiausge with less jaiis , workhouses , and lunatic asylums ; wo should also be enabled to do justice to Ireland , l > y giving her a domtstic it-gislature . Her bndlorda would ba Interested in sUyirir ; at Lome ; absenteeism would becorno a novelty ; the land would b 8 well cultivated ; tLe resources of . tlie nation w-vuld bo brought into act !< ifi . ami Irt'l ' nd would be prosperous . This would rclioTu us ( rvui tlie competition of oae million Irishmen nor ? ia the English labour market , for Iiuhnicn lovo their native land , aud oro cniy ( . ' rifeu from it !> y tho e : ; trer . io of poverty . The iaet speaker said ho was a Soi-iali't ; Wuu ' . vl ii ( j « the at'aiumtnt of the Charter benefit thu
Socta ' . ^ ts ? What was tlw rets-on th- y ccnld nctcaiabiiah . V . ¦< ir ijoinnumitit s ? Not because thtir vrincipk ? were not based in truth , but because tho ufot'essed state of {¦ ¦ ic < t-ly wcnl' 2 nol atto .:- them to accumulate tho mean ? . What w . i :-tho ' answer Mr . Owtn got from tho Mi-iqr . ia of L"M" ? : lv .-wne s-. > ino yeara cjo , when bo apj-lled to birn for assistanco ? "Oi ; o ! it wtmld bo the ruin of our order . " Had not their applications for isnris a ' w ; i ; 3 been rcjit'A . ¦ i ' . ? Wnat was the nrisvrcr Mr . O ^ : a get from tb-. il ; t ' o p .-jren , RotLschi ' . d , when he apr ,-lie ; l lo him ? " O , ycu are tbo nnu that a-. yfQcates the l pa- « J- * Rj be made to you , to try tho cs ;? f . iment tf ,-i C-. inuiui . ity . S ' :-m v . riuM their n : c :-. « ' -. rt .. 3 of 0 ! hic : 'U-. n i ; s carried in-t-i t fleet , iir . O-vtn hiir ^ eif ! --: f » ,
s'sI ' . oiUv . trrvc-d , nir . de Miniater of Euucttion . EJiv > n v . > -uM IIilia MrrJar to the present arise in every toini in tha kinborn , and prosperity and knov . ' fdcjij bo uii : v ;; £ il ( LoU'l cliftevs )—Mr . Parry , after objs .-e . ting to what hr . d fallen from some of thu previous spcaUew , RttUcl that J : h only o ! -j- ction to tha Charter was that ii w ;; s o ; - !/ a ~ Lalf rno . isuro , t . Iiat it was a ssuii-Saffra :-:, i ' . iul not a uu "' ver ? . ti or . 8 , that women ' s iut ' . rt-ts were neglected or rendered MiNtrvient tt > tho"o cf i : ien ; if the Chatter was a rt-mody for distress , was it r . oi ntceJsury that v . * onir . n should possess the rcnedy ? She had to bear the greattr burden , the greater shs . ra of ( 'UireSa , aud wps equally entitled with man to the SuCVigo . Mr . Ridley 1 ml quoted Scripturo and siid , that i : was ' vocrrued "that Gcd crsatadsnan , infcis o ~"
likcrstsa created he him ; " but "wby did ho not conclude the . quotation , " male and female ereaud he ti-em . " -Mr . Parry , then , ia an eloquent str ;; : n ,. dilated , on t ' ne rights of \ roman , and was loudly applauded , and called upon O'Connor , O'Brion , aad tho other Cfcartist leaders to make tho Charter a nnivere-al ? . « aiure , by "throwing aside every ancient prt-judice ; and boldly admitting end declaring tho rights of women . 3 Ir . P : ! r ; y concluded a long and eloquent display amid much ch-oerinsr ; tLo time for closing the discussion havir ¦; arrived , Mr . FarreU moved that tho question for discussion on the ensuing Friday be " The comparative
benefits to be derived from an attainment of the Charter or a Repeal ' of the Corn Laws . " A motion was aLio made for the adjournnient of the previous questiou ; 'out the discussion on the Cora Lawa / was carried by a ls , rr ; & majority . The liberality of the Social body in allowing tho use of their Hall for discussion , may be , if acted upon with .. judgment , made a powerful agtnt in the spread of Chartism , as you have there an opportunity of laying your principles , freo ef any expense , before a body of fifteen or sixteen hundred of Hoeralniiiuled men ,, many of whom only ataad aloof from tha prejudice raised against us of being physical-force men .
East End Shoemakers . —A meeting "was held at ; the Northern Star Coffee House , on Sunday , Oct . 19 , - Mr . M'Carfcby in the chair . After the transaction of the usual business , the following resolution was unanimously carried , " That the London Delegate Meeting bs desired to request tho Executive to rasatjMaBJjeneral rule , specifying tho time when , from rronjgj&eiifc ^ &c . a person shall cease to betome a ro ^ S ^ ^ of tfl d ' M - / . , National Charter Association . " Mr . \ Ru ! 9 ^? S § gHir ^ : ^ - ' : . ¦ attendance to lecture , but owing to ^ f ^^^^^ i ^\ ness , it was postponed . A niembep M ^^«^ ojB ^^ : ^\ _ i \> ^ Executive will lecture on Sunday e WWf | w * W ^ % ~ ' $ ' y a fall attendance is requested . Dale ^« % M *^ fe : ^/|/^ J —^
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Oct. 16, 1841, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse2.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct401/page/7/
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