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TO TSS KD 1 T 0 K OF THB X 0 BTHIB 5 STAB . Sis , —As your paper is extensively circulated in this knyra ., and as a great many are nnable to read Welsh , I trust , as your Merthyr friends do not often trouble Tou tritti their communicationa , yon will not have the gliAtest hesitation in allowing the enclosed a small jraet iE your next number for its insertion . I am , dear Sir , Tour ' s , truly , In the cause of liberty , William Thohas . Peujr neel gerrig , jlaityi Tydvil , Ocl 4 th , 1841 . jjTESii TRANSLATION OP A LETTER -WHICH APPEASED !• *> ' -HE TDGOaS , A WELSH PAPEB . PUBLISHED BY IHS WOBKI . NG CLASSES OF MSBIHYB TTDV 1 L . , ^ ^ ^^¦^ M^— ' ¦ ^ - " ' * ' ¦ *™ " ' - ¦—
TO SIR JOSIAH JOHN GUEST . Sis , —It is probable that you will consider it pregn ^ ptnous in me , as I am a workman , to address you , D ^ ejug a -wealthy maa , and a man of great influence Ljjh the tecpounders and others , who possess more -iTgBftii than sense— -who boldly assert that all others are fools , if the mark of the Reform beast is not to be saen on » me part of their bodies . My property , my capital , is all , whichever -way it has beea obtained , either through honesty or dishonesty , the rich is the god , and he alone is -worshipped . The instinct and the Iocs of the thief , -who is justly punished by our laws , are precisely the same . Whether it is presumptuous or not , I trill "write the letter ; and remember , Sir , gat -von -will not be more -wealthy than myself in a
hundred yesi 3 hence . The grave will be your freehold , £ so my lodging . Why , then , will -we be oppressors 7 There is to be a day of judgment and reckoning , and if jon -will escape , great -will be year blessing ; because jou have sinned ag&inrt the poor by loTing and emtricing cruelty and tyranny in the company of Whip » nd Tories within the -walls of St Stephens . The people know it , and understand it : yon are under a jnsrk of their discontent at this moment , and yon know for what reason . And if yon possess a moral and feeling conscience , 1 would not grow jealous of it for all t ^ s -wealth . Hah ! fie , Guest ; fie for shame . Is it not &a exceedingly bad principle to oppress and become wealthy a : the cost of the misery of the poor of the land ! Da I believe that yon undemand the signs of the times , and that -which is likely to take place ere
I have no reason to believe that you do comprehend the Eigns of the times better than a new-bom child does . Ton had a lesson on the day of the last election in ilerthjT , yes , a very admirable lesson . Though you irere net previously , I am certain , but in the horn fe& « k of politics , and if you have not yet learned to spell and read , and gone on with uncommon progress in the psmsi&r of politics , you are one of the most eaptyhUded and the greatest numskull within ilerthyr and Its vicinity . " "Vero fiddled when Rome was on fire , "
I am afraid that yon are too much like that prototype of all cruelty . The " power of Nero was in spies , in his soldiers , in " his servants , and in his hypocrites , and I Trarr&nt , in persons who were at that time held in detestation by human kind , as the rural police are at this day in our country . X ^ ro -was a tyrant You have supported the most oppressive and tyrannical Ministry tbii ever existed in Britain . Seriously , Sir , how dii you lose the majority on the day of election , and you , a rich man , the great lord of the blast furnaces , the paddling , and the cifider tips , and God knows -what besides . Dear me , fie , fie , how unfortunate ! What ? The great knight of the tenpouudere , and the coal wheelbarrows , loosing the majority by a show of hands on the dsy of election . tradeaud
Morgan -Williams , a weaver by , a gentleman by morals , and a man by principle , and naturally , when possessing the properties I named , a Chartist , or , if yon like a tree , not an hypocritical Christian ; it u not at all , then , surprising that he carried the day . ¦ RTell , again , Sir Josiah John Guest , how did you lose the election ? I will explain the matter to joo im-BicdiaUJy . Be patient to read , and not too stupid to understand . It is true that the ass moves on under a heary burtien when he is pricked . Come now , Sir , -we will reason about the election , on the signs of the times , and on the contention which is probable to take place . The workmen , though you want them to remain ignorant , kaow wall that yon supported the shabby Ministry of the Whigs to pass the 2 few Poor Law Act , which w&s made against the testimonies laid before the House of Commons .
The workmen consider that yen voted to oppress and ecslsve them , so do I . The workmen believe that you tsress lie Whig infernal machine , to kill the poor , be-CE = ie it puts mrney in the pocSets of the wealthy corps , in more than one way . The -workmen know , se& * ihat from tlj questionable evidence , -when a man tIB sell himself to deal in the defilement of living ou ihs cart of the corafcrts of the unfortunate , or -when he v 2 ] jspport sad incite others , or allow others to do tack aTsitty asd a fiendish work , It is evident that saih a nan , if you will permit the expression , is a staging snd a poisonous snake . Seriously , Guest , caji yea d = ET in the face of the country , and in the f ^ ce of
j-osr vote , to parish the poor worse than punishing thisTes , that you £ : d not sting and poison the poor of Great Britain , when you voted for the New Poor Lvsr , and because you are one of the set ot the fcnl , bloody , cruel , and unprincipled men , who voted for the divorcement of man and wife , fcy parting them , endeavoured to stifle the human and fatherly feeling through parting children from their parents , and sporting -with the bodies of the poor , by petting them under the Dead Body Act The conduct of the ¦ workmen of ilerthyr , and rcch of the middle class , who were men of sense , was nothing but natural sad proper .
If the workmen are , as a body , not able to comprehend S 5 philosophers , believe me they can feel as men when under oppression , and they are not wholly destitute of courage , * thank God for that . Sir Josiah John Guest , listen . Nothing will bring men to consideration soocer than oppress : on . Deep meditation makes men philosophers ; and once a philosopher , if he be rot an abject being who has sold khustif to all wickedness and unbridled desires , he will become to know iis right as a nan and a citizen . ' -There is no need to thank the Devil for his kindness , " is an old Byig , older it * -an you or me . ~ So thanks to the hellish set , that is the question , beca : ist they are by nature so ungodly and fiendish , that they will do no good but by force , and wholly against their will .
I £ 2 i sorry to Esert tkat yon hold tie same relation i-j the workmen and the p ^ cr , the residents of the BastQeSj as the old serpent , Satan , holds to the damned in hell If we will f gfct Satan with the energy of a sincere beart , Gid will give aid to . escape from his iron fangs . So , if the people of cur country will unite with sincerf hearts to prevent you and your associates , er iiase folks of the same stamp , fr * m going into Par-EaiKEt to talk nonsense , and that nonsense , terminating in oppression , and is in lieu of you honest , veracious , and virtue / us men , perhaps John Fairplay trill come to shake hands with John Bull , and release him of a feurthen which will make him once Eore a free John . But we must renumber , " there is no fieed to thank the Devil for his kindness . " Did you be lieve that the workmen of ilerthyr had forgot the part yon plsyed in the case of the Glasgow cotton spisners '! Ha : hi !
Did . you not strike the weak with venr fist ? Yes , with your own wicked £ st . T cu know that upwards of ter thensard of the working men of Jlerthyr signed the KaticnalPetition . Did you support their petition ? No . Then , by all reason , they hate you from the utmost recesses of their hearts . It it not all Treasure to degride ten thousands . Time will bell . " Where wer « jou at the time Mr . Buncombe rre&nted a petition for adoreserg her Majesty in order ~ to release these whom tyranis call political tenders ? It is true vcu were in
Divlus , having erected a chapel to preach and publish the Eierey of God . But , friend , did yon exercise the cppcrtunity which was off-red yon by Mr . Duncombe to « how aa-cy to those who ars in prison in cold hoTes , E ^ -tnng under the dreadful , terrifriEg , and devilish sues , system ; yes , suffering pains worse than the pains or aaji . Ah , Guest , assuage yourself ; you turned the a ^ u ear awards the voice of mtrcy , -when you could c ^ vc stowa mere ? , althragh you and every body else ~ J 1 ¦ dutact wi ± ? ctIT account when nothing but aercy -mi KtUe , v bUL
tv ? t £ P ° crisy . deceit , and fiv . tery tm > t the ehapel ; 2 ^ « nen know that , and they have set an indicatW >? ^^ Bp ' 5 " cn b 7 rating you , and easing Morgan waihrns . I am yours , Do > ot Case ros a > "ybosy .
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XOVEL APPROPRIATION OF A BEXEFIT ' SOCIETY'S rrSDS TESTED iy THE * SAVISGS' BANK - rf ^ v " ^ DIToa >—I sm induced to request the insertion ( w uiib i 6 tteT jjj yonr feXteE £ iTely circulated star , well f ^*^ S that its columns are always epen for any in-^^ pon tphich has a tendency to ameUorate the 'Ktctiea condition of the working classes . jj ~ J ^ or , or labouring class of inhabitants of this i ^ oa ^ i hzre beea subjected to very great privations in , ^« winter season , owing to a difficulty in procuring « e fcceaaiy article of ccal ; indeedj to such extremes rf ii ^ priTation a 11 ^^ . that , in -the severe winter ] pgj r ~ 30 > ^ »*» « ld as high a * , three Bhiliiiigs i
In order to obviate Buch occurrences for the future , 1 TOous means have been adopted , such as coal clubs « 7 f > me of tte benevolent and wealthy inhabitants ; *» o-tet ia * itute 4 by the operatives only , but which j 2 " <* 1 ? psrtaUy diminished the probabilities of dis-*»? sasiag from the like cause . ftf ° Tij £ Eiitor * thfi P 01111 to ^^ bich I ^^ to drair jljf 30 ^ of your readers is , the subject or Sick ' 7 ™*? ' Societies and Savings' Banks ; we have ' a r ^ oing socitty of that descripUon in . this town , who j ^^» very considerable sum deposited in the Savings '; ^^ The members of this society knowing from past i ^ nsnes their liafailitiss , recently agreed to appro- i ~** a portiOD Of thEiT fnnAs tn the nnrchiotP nf cnalu ' .
«»« i of their members as required them , and who wa to pay one Ehilling and sixpence per month for ; VbaJE !* Gl coal ^ PP 116 * 1 to ^ em Bntil the Tfhole is W 8 tel ^ them ; actina upon this agreement , the j
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officers of the society gave the requisite notice to the conductors of the Savings' Banks of drawing out the required sum for that purpose ; , when the Acting Manager , who is one of the Borough Magistrates , ex * pressed a doubt as to the legality of applying any part of the funds to such purpose . Thus circumstanced , and desirous that their proceedings should be strictly legal , they wrote to John Tidd Pratt , Esq ., Barrister at Law , stating the case , and requesting his opinion upon the subject . An answer has been received to the effect , that such an appropriation of tha funda was perfectly legal - In consequence of the above answer , all those members who require it are being supplied with one , two , or three tons of coals upon the foregoing conditions ; which not only secures them against the contingency of a severe printer , but protects them from the rapacious coal merchant , and effects a saving of four and sixpence per cwt
My object in writing this is to give publicity to the subject , for the purpose of inducing others placed in similar circumstances to avail themselves of this information before the winter sets in , and go and do likewise ; aad by the bye , if it is legal for the members of a Benefit Club , to supply themselves with coal from their funds , I can se « no reasen why they may not be supplied with such a thing as a Back of Sour , or many other articles upon the same principle , and thereby humble the pride and arrogance of the shopocracy , eo as to compel them to acknowledge that the toiling millions are worthy of the franchise , for they are capable of conducting their own effairs ; to say nothing about the effect upon Government , that the withdrawal of large Eums from the Savings' BaRks -would produce . Mr . Editor , as this is ihtended to benefit my fellew man , I trust to be tx : used in any error I may have fallen into , and am , with sincere respect ,
Yours , in the cause of Democracy , E , X Norvhimpton , Oct . 11 , ISil .
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m — - CASE OF DISTRESS . TO THE EDITOR OF THE N 0 BTHER . N STAR . Sir ;—On the 7 th of August last , Mary Appleby , the "wife of William Appleby , of North-wood-street , - was delivered of three children , and her husband beirg out of employ , the poor woman is in a state of starvation . Sir , I will iiot attempt to describe the wretched state of this poer , helpless family ; but hope you will notice in yonr invaluable paper that the husband is out of employ . The three helpless children are named as follows -. —first Mary Anne ; second , Maria ; third , Feargus William , in honour of that noble patriot Feargus O'Connor . Sir , by inserting the above , you will much oblige , Your most obedient servant , JOB . ? XlSElIOKE . Upper Hospital-street , 17 Court , Birmingham , Oct . 11 , 1841 .
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TO THB EDITOR OF THE SORTHEBS STAB .. Sir , —Ab a constant subscriber to your widely circulating journal , I hops you will find space in your valuable paper for the following : — Arthur Blackburn , a member of the old body of Methodists for above forty years in this town , and was chapel doorkeeper for a number of years at St . Peter ' s , died of three days' sickness en the the 25 th of September ( Saturday ) , and was buried on Sunday , the 26 th ; and the Christian body thought proper to deprive the widow of that day ' s pay ( Sunday ; , which came to 9 d , and charged the poor widow 16 s . for opening and shutting the grave—a piece of ground which he , when he lived , purchased , and paid above £ 3 for it He was paid quarterly for being chapel doorkeeper , and his quarter happened to be up on the day he was buried . He was a good liver among the body to which he belonged , and an upright man .
Now , please to compare this with the late William I > awson of the same body , and by bo doing you -will much oblige , Tour hnmble servant , his Joh > - y . Harker , mark , A Member ot that Bady . October 7 th , 1841 .
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CARLISLE . Important Decision as to Mra-JCiPAL-Yotshs . —A Court was held a fe \ r days ago , at the Town Hall , before John Dixon , E = q ., ilajor , Mr . Simon Pattinson , druggist , and Dr » Barnes , the two assessors for the borough , for the purpose of revising the Burgess List . It appeared th&t , in the Ward of Botchergate , the overseer , Mr . Donald , had been taking unwarrantable liberty in reducing the number of names npon the Burgess List . In 18 b 7 the list contained upwards of 600 persons , all of whom at tha ; time were deemed eligible to vote ; bnt sicce this overseer came into office , he has frittered away the cumber from time to time , till at present the list contains only about 1 ( jO names . This overseer , at the
dictation of a Whig clique , who wish to make the Burgess Lis : snbservieQt to their own sinister purposes , has gone upon the wholesale principle of disfranchisemenr , by patting all off the Burgess List who do not pay the poor-rates directly . In consequence of his officious conduct , about 140 persons sent ia c ' aims to the Town Clerk , to have their names placed upon the Burgess List : of course , it was left to the Major and assessors to decide how far Mr . Donald , the overseer , had acted in accordance with the spirit of the Act of Parliament . . Messrs . Bowman and M'KeDzie acted on behalf of the claimants , who were , generally speaking , not able to attend , from the nature of their employment . A long desultory discussion took place on the subject of landlords compounding for their rates , as it had been
decided on a former occasion that no tenant was entitled to be placed on the Burgess List whose landlord compounded for the rates . It vras finally decided , however , : hat as the compounding was a matter of convenience with the parish , and as a greater- amount of rates was got in that way , than if the tenements were rated separately , that all those tenants should be plated upon the Burgess List , providing the rates were all paid up to the time required by the Act of Parliament . It vra ? al = o decided that all tenants , whose landlords paid the rates , were also eligible to be placed on the Burges . 3 Roll . Out of 140 cla ms pat in , 136 were su .-: amed . ' Thus have the vile and selfish designs of a few disappointed Whigs b- ; en successfully frustrated by the exertions of a few individuals , and the very liberal decision of the Mayor and assessors .
BEADFOED . —One day last week , the Whigs went through the farce of nominating constables tor the ensuing year , and a most stupid affair it was , they being H left alone in their g ' ory . " Mr . Salt occupied the chair , for the purpose of receiving the nominations of bis son and a Mr . Buek , who being duly proposed and secondec , were , with the assistance of the Chairman ' s right hand friend and spokesman , put and carried . A vote of thanks was accorded to the Chairman for his efficient services , which he , probably thinking it nere complement ,
had not the good manners to acknowledge , and turning his back upon the audience wa 3 about to make his exit , but on being reminded by his Mipponer on the left that his arduous duties were not . quite terminated , having a still greater effort to perform in recording a minute of the formal transaction ic the Yestry Book , he remained to complete the turkaque . He ally , if the humblest mechanic in the Chairman ' s employment had not acquitted himself infinitely better , we should have declared him ntteriv unfit for UniversalSuffrage . —Correspondent .
DUNDEE . —The contest betwixt the Chartists and the factions in the election of Police Commissioners for this place took place on Wednesday last , and excited an interest greater than any which we ever iefore witnessed at & borough election . The Chartisrs held a meeting on Tuesday evening , which was numeroa-ly attended . At this meeting the conduct of the police in attending public meetings in the character of spies was by the various speakers severely reprobated . Resolutions were come to . pledging the electors then present to exert all their influence to return men to the board who would Dut a stop to such a system , &c . By an early hour on Wednesday all was bustle . The system of keeping " open houses" was resorted to by both Whig ?
and Tories—so much did they interest themselves in keeping out the Chartists . The conclusion of the polling showed , however , that democracy was not to be put down by such foul means ; and that neither -fair promises nor whisky could induce the people either to abandon their principles or their friends . Althongh we had some instances of barefaced renegadism on the part of those of whom better things might tave been expected ; and , although we have lost the services of some useful and honest men , yet , npon the whole , it was a decided , and ( as fa ? as we have heard ; a bloodless rictori in favour of the great and glorious cause of Chartism . Mr . Cor ? torphan , the-superintendent , we are credibly informed , after carefully examining the new list ot Commissioners , made up his mind to resign his office rather than encounter the
opposition from that quarter which he expected to- meet with . But , alas , how short sighted , how . frail , and helpless a creature is man . He had scarcely formed his opinion ere the hand of death relieved him from the carea of an earthly office . He conducted the cases before the Police Court , oa Thursday , in his capacity as public prosecntor , as usual , retired np stairs to his parlour after , and stretched himself upon a Eofa , to read a newspaper , from whieh he never rose again ? The can ? e of death is not properly ascertained . As an officer he was severe and rigorou ? . When he came here first , instigated by two magistrates we could name , he made an ineffectual blow at the Chartist cause , and has continued leis or more onr enemy ever since , but lie saw at last that they were too powerful for him . The situation is an excellent one , and many applicants no doubt will soon be in the field for it . But if this meew the eye ot
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any of them , they may rest assured that although they had it they Trill find that they cannot hold it long without they respect the rights of the poor . Mr . C . was a shrewd , active man , about middle age . He has left a widow and two children .
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Ma . Ghihshaw , who was town-clerk of the borough of Wjgan from 1818 to the passing of the Municipal Reform Act , 1835 , ia claiming £ 7 , 642 , as compensatioa for loss of his offices . The rkkoyal of Su&derland light-house from the north pier in an entire state to the eastern extremity of the pier , a distance of nearly 500 feet , was safely and successfully completed . The original South Foreland Light , whioh was among the first erected ia England , is now undei proces 3 of demolition , being already almost levelled to the foundation . Bt the death of Wt Harrison . Esq ., Q . C ., the following lucrative appointments have become vacant . —Council to the Treasury and the Wai Office , and Attorney-General ' to the Duchy of Cornwall .
Sir Thomas Wilde , the ex-Attorney General , was thrown from his horse , the other day , near Southfate ; luckily the honourable gentleman fell oa hie head , and by that means escaped any very serious injury ! Thb amount of silver coin and bullion shipped at Dover in September , 1841 , waa 280 , 555 ounceB . One of the last actB of Lord Melbourne ' s administration waa to give a pension of £ 50 per annum to Miss Clapperton , sister of the African traveller . Disproportion of Wealth . —A tdb great disproportion of wealth among citizens weakens any state . Every person , if possible , ought to enjoy the fruits oi his labour , in a full possession of all the necessaries , and many of the conveniences , of life . No one can
doubt but such an equality is most suitable to human nature , and diminishes much less from the happiness of the rich than it adds to the poor . It also augments the power of the state , and makes any extraordinary taxes or impositions be paid with more cheerfulness . Where the riches are eDj ' oyed by a few , these must contribute very largely to supplying the public necessities ; but when the riches are dispersed among multitudes , the burden foels light on every shoulder , and the taxos make not a sensible difference on any one ' s way of living . Add to this , that where the riehes are in few hands , these muBt enjoy all the power , and will readily conspire to lay all the burden on the poor , and oppress them still further , to the discouragement of all industry . — Hume .
A Fortenatb Discovebt . —A few days ago a poor labouring man , named Warren , residing at No 3 , Hose street , Seven Dials , purchased , at a second-hand boot and shoe shop , belonging to a man named William Mason , in Monmouth-street , Seven Dials , some Bluchers for himself and children , for three pairs of which he paid 83 . Thurday morning , after he had worn the boots for about half an hour , and as he was going out for the purpose of resuming the labours of the day , he felt one of his boots pinch him at the side , and ripping up the lining for the purpose of removing some hard substance that he imagined he felt within , he waa most agreeably surprised to find between the side lining and the upper
leather ten £ 5 Baak of England notes , which had evidently been most carefully secreted by their former owner . The poor fellow ' s joy knew no bounds , and ere long the whole neighbourhood was made acquainted with his good fortune , as he regaled , in the afternoon , his most intimate friends and neighbours with a dinner , defrayed from the pecuniary assistance thus unexpectedly received . It is supposed that the boots in question formerly belonged to a miser named Andrews , for many years a resident in the Dials , and who lately died , leaving property to the amount of Beveral thousand pounds , the whole of which has fallen into the possession o ( his brother , a mechanic , living in the same locality .
The PAKT 2 ES who have been so busy in getting up petitions and memorials to her Majesty , praying her not to prorogue Parliament without taking into consideration the corn question and other measures , might as well bave spared themselves the trouble . They trusted to have the opportunity of laying them at the " foot of the throne , " as they term it , forgetting how distasteful it is to royalty to be bored with the mention of vulgar misery and distresses . The memorialists will be indulged in no such luxury , either themselves or by deputy . They , or Lord Kinnaird for them , have been informed by the Lord in Waiting ( Byron ) that it is her Majesty ' s pleasure to receive tho petitions only through the Secretary of
the Home Department . Him , as he is paid for it , her Majesty judges to be the proper person to be tormented and plagued with such trivial matters as the starvation of the community , and an increased supply of food . Avaunt ! ye starving wretches—keep away from Court . Presume not even to think that you will be permitted to set a foot within royal palaces in order to set forth your sufferings and wrongs . These will be only attended to in the regular way when sent through the regular channels . They will be received courteously , and lodged safely enough in the Home-office ; but jf you should fancy that one farthing ' s worth benefit will result therefrom , you are greater fools than most of your neighbours .
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IRELAND'S WOES AND REMEDY . It is refreshing to perceive that all Irishmen are not besotted ; that there is some life of patriotism which views the gangrene in its own foulness , and apart from the foul dressings of the great political empiric . As evidence of this , we have great pleasure in giving the following article cut from an Irish paper , and sent to us by a friend : — " To what purpose are all the Parliamentary Committees in relation to Ireland . ' —They do not even touch the surface of the gangrene—Why ? Because the -whole produce of the country is collected into the granaries of ten or a dozen sections of legalised quacks , and the residue of the population are left to feed with the pigs upon roots and garbage !—This is the true and
simple source of Ireland's poverty—but where is the Parliamentary Committee , or any other committee , or association , that tells yon this ? Not one—they all peep through their eye-glasses at the surface of the body of corruption , and they start at its horribly ulcerated aspeet ; but not a man of them , in or out of the house , has the manliness to touch the core of the disease—consequently , Ireland's doctors ( and they are numerous ; are either abominable quacks or damnable impostors . Now , only think , if the crop on a farm of 10 , 000 acres were gathered into one granary , aud there reserved for the luxurious living of a single man , while the labourers employed in saving the immense harvest
had been referred to the roots that had escaped the spade and scythe , for a maintenance proportioned to their wants . Only think , we say , of the grave and sapient office of a pack of quidnuncs , deliberating , in a solemn assembly , as to the best method of curing tho disease of poverty , arising from this ualiraited monopoly of the produce of the farm , "without once hinting the necessity of laying a strong legislative finger upon the monopoly itself . '—Only think of this , and then give your opinion of the competency ot these sapient legislators , or of the sect-mongers Who traffic in the ignorance and credulity cf tbe people for their own profit , to restore to the population on such a farm , a more wise aud eqxiitab' . e order of things .
" It is with Ireland exactly as with the farm just noticed—its conquerors have handed it over as a rich monopoly to balf a dozen sections of its own creatures , and these , having gathered into their respective granarieB the tssential produce of tbe land , the poople are left to fted or tiie upon the roots and garbage , as circumstances may happen to direct . You have your church granaries for your bishops , with their hundred thousand or two hundred thousand acres of fat church lands , -while the working clergy , in divers instances , are left to starve . [ Quere—Would not one bishop for each province be quite enough ?] You have your deaneries and pluralities in the rere of these . You have your college granary , with lands amounting to the revenue of a rich German prince , together with large ami liberal
contributions from all the pupils , te make that granary overflow . [ Quere—Would not these pupil ' s fees be a sufficient compensation for the instruction of their masters ?] You have your Poor Law granary at Somerset Honse , in Loudon , with thousands a year to each of ihe legalised commissioners , with £ 700 a year to each of their assistants , with enormous taxes upon all the householders of the kingdom , with able-bodied paupers in poor-houses , doing nothing for their own support ; and with armies of beggars in the capital and country , that neither our Poor Law system , nor ( our burking system extensively carried on for the supply of the Scotch marketB , can visibly reduce ! With these and a thousand other granaries that might be named , the produce oi the country Is swallowed up—the industrious population are left to struggle or to starve—the numeroas claims that come upon them they cannot meet—the revenues of the land are drained away—and
the once prosperous manufactures of the country that would have supplied this drain , have been comparatively extingnisned J' Such is and has been the state of Ireland since it was made an English draw-farm by the a « t of Union ; and unless the population join handin-hand in order to restore their extinguished manufactures by s wise progressive system of support , the country must expire . Its beggars have progressed as its trade declined ; and this will be its experience even to the end of the chapter . " Now if Heaven has conferred npon this country inexhaustible resources ; and if God is everywhere present to open the understandings and guide tbe energies of his people ; then why , in the name of common sense , why so many impostor godB to eat up the produce of the land , and leave the trading classes to contend with difficulties that overwhelm , and the labourers and artisans nothing to support their families but the roots that have escaped the mower ' s sevthe ?
" Were Mr . Sharman Crawford ' s proposed law of landlord and tenant brought into operation , this widespread oppression of the peasantry would receive a
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gentle check . A country (« uch as the North of Ireland once , was ) combining manufactures "with agriculture , never was , nnd neyer will be , overrun with paupers destitute of employment , and perishing for want of food—but this rational and Christian' jyslem Twing incompatible with a 'Wholesale monopoly of land , it is consequently rejected by those who have consented to the banishment of onr manufactures , and subscribed to the English plan of converting Ireland into a drawfarm , ana a consumer of the gooda which England , by her capital and machinery , exclusively produces . It la to this
" system of monopoly we are indebted for the physical evils which afflict our country . Ireland , placed under wise , Christian regulations , would frovlde more than twenty millions of men with every comfort essential to the well-regulated enjoyment of human life ; and yet , with a population of less than nine millions , she is comparatively starving ! This is an evil that ought not to be borne—that none bat traitors to their country will subscribe to—and in handling such a subject he must be a aespicaWe coward and a slave who will speak of ita injustice in measured language . " This is doubtless a right estimate of the source of mischief ; but it falls short of devising the actual remedy , which can exist only in the power of lawmaking possessed by the whole people . The " property" clashes will never remedy the evils of their own creation .
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UPPINGHAM , Rutland . —Mr . Editor , —By inserting the following in your paper of next Saturday , you will extremely oblige the friends of true liberty that dwell in these Tory-ridden counties ,- We are very thinly scattered , and as an instance of this fact , I feel it my duty to say that Mr . Robert Hames , of Oundle , an independent gentleman , is the only person of that town , who dares publicly to avow the principles of Chartism . He has been , and now is , a great friend to this and every good cause . I am the only person In Wildon , that can bid defiance to the local tyrants . On Friday night , a meeting of the total abstlnance society was held in the Town Hall , at Oundle , after which , the friends of teetotalLsm met at Mr . Francis ' s to transact business relating to tha society . This important place bas been
shamefully neglected by the profesiora at Cnrlstianlty but now some have made an effort . The principles of teetotal ism and the Charter are rapidly prevailing . Agitation and consistency alone are wanting . Mr . Hames , although a moderate drinker , gave 2 s . 6 d . to suppress intemperance , and told the persona that addressed the meeting he wanted Chartist lecturers also , and that he will give them something "when they come to Oundle . I agree in every respect with the real National Charter Association , and should feel proud of my name being enrolled in it . I view the new move party as false friends and opponents of universal right . We must have the Welsh martyrs back . I am always thinking of them and have a board out at my door daily in behalf of them . I rejoice to hear that onr undaunted friend Dr . M'Douall has been at our county town , and that
the Chartists there are alive , though Whiggery is buried and comfortable . One of the Council at Northampton informs me that this county is likely to be agitated forthwith . I hope the Executive of Manchester wit ! be supported . We will have the Charter and nothing less illustrated . The useful people only want to hear of it from the mouths of their fellow men and women , to embrace its welcome points . All parties confess that something must now be done , to relievo the present distress of our native land , although Sir Robert is for consideration . I have been a teetotaller about five years and a Chartist ever since I got a glimpse of the Northern Star . I am indebted to a working man of Kettering for the information of your publication , that has been such an incomparable enemy to despotism . —I am , Sir , yours very respectfully , William Cooper .
MANSFIELD . —A large meeting , took place in the Market Place on Thursday last Mr . Monks was unanimously called to the chair , who stated that the object of the meeting was to memorialise tUe Home Secretary on behalf of our suffering brother , Robert Peddie , and to hear a lecture from Mr . Dean Taylor , tbe Chartist missionary for this county . The Chairman called upon Mr . Thomas Dutton to propose the memorial , who did so in a brief speech . Mr . Russell , from Nottingham , seconded it in a neat speech . Mr . D .
Taylor supported it in a masterly manner , by depicting the cruel sufferings of our imprisoned brethren . A vote of thanks was given to the Chairman , which , like the memoiial , waa passed unanimously . The meeting quietly separated , after purchasing a quantity of Chartist papers . The Chartists met in their room , in the Lawn , on Sunday last , to transact their business . A letter was read from our esteemed friend , Samuel Holberry , a Chartist prisoner in Yoik Castle—the Bum of Cs . has been collected , and sent this week to Hoiberry .
LEICESTER . —The movement goes on steadily , and yet rapidly , as ever . The entire number of new members last week was fotty : this added to the increase of fifty , forty-four , forty-two , and sixty-two , of the weeks preceeding , ( all removals , deaths , &c . taken into the reckoning , ) bring us within about forty of fiva hundred : that half-way step towards one thousand we shall shortly reach , though it may not be this week , on account of onr October ftiir . We have nothing to say by way of news , save that we keep labouring on , each in his vocation , spreading the great truths of Chartism among all with whem each of us come in contact , and each of us endeavouring to bring up our man to receive bis card , as soon as he confesses himself fully and heartily convinced that the Charter is tight . The weather being unfavourable on Sunday , Mr . Cooper was compelled to give up the projected open air meeting , and addressed as many as could possibly squeeze
into the room of All Saints . Open , at night , from " Ho that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen , bow can he love God whom he hath not seen ? " On Monday night , Mr . Cooper being much indisposed , did not enter on the intended series ot lectures on Astronomy , but addressed the assembly in the Guildhall for a short time , on tbo life of the illustrious Newton . Messrs . Smart and Markham contributed to the evening's instruction also , by able remarks at some length , partly on the advantages of knowledge , and furthermore , on the general aspect of political affairs at the present time . We are taking sU-ps for securing the Guildhall as a place of meeting on Sundays , during the winter ; are making arrangements for the O'Connor demonstration ; for getting signatures to the National Petition , &c ; and in the midst of all this , we aro endeavouring to perfect our class system , so as to secure the greatest financial effects from our limited resources .
NEWCASTLE . —On Sunday evening , Mr . Morgan preached in the Chartists' Hall , Goat Inn , Cloth Market , to a very attentive audience , after which several members joined the Association . Mr . Morgan had good meetings at the following places this week , at all of ¦ which they pledged themselves to the Charter , and nothing less than tbe Charter , viz , Felling Shore , Blue Quarries , Wriekingtofl , - and Badlington . Mr . M . is sorry that the inclemency of the weather rendered it utterly impossible to fceep his appointment with the good men and true of Usworth , last week .
The Chartists of Newcastle held their weekly business meeting on Monday eToning . Mr . Dees having been called to the chair , the Secretary read the minutes of last meeting , which were confirmed . He likewise read several letters , whioh he waa instructed to reply to . Mr . Crathus introduced Mr .. McPherson , of Aberdeen , who submitted to the meeting n proposed plan for associating in one body the productive classes of this country , to be designated the Universal Association of Producers . The following resolutions were then agreed to . 1 st , That the Secretary be instructed to write to
Mr . O'Brien , requesting him to become a candidate for this district to represent us in the forthcoming Convention , and that the different localities ia the district be corresponded with , apprising them of the same . 2 nd , That the Treasurer be instructed to purchase a ream of paper for the National Petition , according to the dimensions given by the Executive . That a general meeting of the Members be held in , the Chartists' Hull , Goat Inn , Cloth Market , on Monday evening the 18 th instant , to nominate a fit and proper person to represent the district of Northumberland and Durham in the
forthcoming Convention . OUSEBURN . —The Chartists here held tbeir usual weekly meeting 011 Sunday last , which was numerously attended , and several new members were enrolled . The address of the Executive , recommending the appointment of a Convention , to meet in London , in the Month of February , was read , and , after considerable discussion , the following resolutions were carried unanimously : — " That this meeting highly approve of the plan of tbe Executive , relative to the appointment of a Convention , to meet in London , in February , and pledge themselves to aid in carrying it out with every means in their power . " " That the conduct of Charles Attwood , Esq ., at the Cora Law meeting held ia the Guildhall of Newcaatle-upon-Tyne , on the 6 th of October , in bringing forward an address to her Majesty , endeavouring , though a breach of faith , to pledge the Chartists there assembled to the Malthusian doctrine of ' the country not beiDg able to maintain its
inhabitants , ' and endeavouring to blink the question of Universal Suffrage , under the Whig term of ' extension of the Suffrage , ' after the solemn pledge given in his name to the committee of Goal arrangements , which sat the evening before , and which committee was composed of deputations of the Ouseburn and Newcastle Chartists , that the parts of the address struck out by them should be left out , and the other parts altered to the words and meaning then approved of , and oa which pledge alone they consented to Mr . Attwood ' s moving an address , is ungentlemanly and dictatorial , and dona solely with the view of recovering , by means of the Chartists , his lost popularity , and we deem him to be totally undeserving of any confldeuce or respect from the Chartists © f England ; and we , the Chartists of Oosebuin , pledge ourselves never to have any further connexion with either him , his Com Law , Colonies , bis currency humbugs , his extension of -the suffrage , or his one pound notes , our motto being Bimply the Charter . "
A Political Lecture is delivered in the Chartists ' ) om , near Byker Bar , on every Tuesday evening , at jven o ' clock .
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BRADFORD , Nelson-Street . —On Sunday last , the democrats in this district , assembled at the house of Mr . Win . Smith , when an association was formed . It was determined to join and to support the National Charter Association . ¦ LONDON . —The Social Hall , Jo&a-street , Tottenham Court Road , having by its spirited Committee been thrown open for public discussion , the Chartists of the Metropolis , ever on the alert , took advantage of this circumstance , and proposed for disctusion the following qjjery .- —V Would the People ' s Charter , if It became the law of the land , remove the distress of the country J" The discussion came off on : Friday evening , at eight o'clock . The place was crowded to excess , and many were nnafele to procure admission . Mr .
Goodfellow having proposed the subject , opened the question , stating that it was with diffidence he appeared before such an assembly , be being but an uneducated working man , yet he was proud to acknowledge himself a Chartist , and would , to the best of bis ability , advocate the principles of Chartism . That great distress existed In the country weuld be most readily admitted by all parties / but eaohhad their separate scheme to relieve it . One party says there is no remedy but the repeal of the Corn Laws—another none but Emigration . He was there to propose to them the Charter as a remedy , and he believed it would be a safe and efficient one . The Sovereign herself from the Throne admitted the distress , but in the face of this a Parliament , calling itself the Commons House of Parliament , consulting its
own pleasures , caring nought for the distress of the country , adjourns for its members to enjoy the sports of the shooting season , and proposes no remedy to remove the distress . Appeal after appeal has been made to that House . Petition after petition has been presented , but how have they been treated ? Why , allowed to lay over to that day sir months . It is useless to appeal to the parties in the present House of Parliament ; for however they may quarrel amongst themselves , they always combine to plander and oppress the people . ( Hear , hear . ) The only remedy for this is to obtain every man a rote in the election of the Commons House of Parliament . We should then be able to return men who would endeavour to remove the causes which bave created the present distress . It has been
objected that we are Levellers , Destructives , &o . I utterly deny it . We are for liberty to all—tyranny to none . We repudiate tne idea of physical force—our only object is to obtain a true and just representation of the people , that they may be enabled to obtain a fair day ' s wages for a fair day ' s work . Mr . Goodfellow here read extracts trom Paine , Cartwright , Cobbetf , Blacks tone , &c-, showing the justness and desirability of our obtaining the Charter , and called upon all parties , whether Socialists , Corn Law Repealers , or whatever class or sect they belonged to , to unite for the obtaining justice to their common country . They were all seeking the same great end . He bad endeavoured to point out the means . AH agreed upon the lamentable poverty and distress under which the working
classes were labouring . None could dispute it Let them look even to newspaper reports , aud how often would they find them teeming with instances of persons dying of hudger and starvation , and of the jurors returning a verdict of " Died by the visitation of God . " Such verdicts were a libel upon the character of the Almighty , were a blasphemy upon the God of creation . Would that some honest jury would return a true verdict—" Died from the effects of class representation . " He called upon any who might oppose him to put aside all sophistry , and meet him on the broad ground of justice and humanity . ( Loud cheering . ) The Secretary here called upon some gentleman in accordance with the rules , to take the opposite Bide of the question , but none appearing , Dr . Shotskie said he did not
intend to address them for the Charter or against the Charter . He intended to speak on the Charter . He considered that less distress existed in ancient times , because their wise men oftener communed together , were more united , because they travelled t 3 all parts of tbe Globe to collect the good laws and customs of the whole . He thought most of the speakers at that Hall spoke too much by logic . He did not like logic , no go * d ever came by logic . He would tell them a fable . Once in ancient times there was great distress in the country , and the people wandered up and down till in a huge mountain they found a spacious cavern , and peeping through its crevices they saw it contained all the things they stood in need of , not only physically , but also such articles as the rights of man , Universal Suffrage ,
&c , and they further saw that but a very few were in the cavern , enjoying these good things . Well , what was to be done ? The mouth of the cavern was blocked up with much stone , and they could get no entrance ; and they straight began to quairel amongst themselves about the best means of getting at these good things . One parly were for getting a good quantity of gunpowder , and blowing it up—these he would call Republicans , but there were not many in this country . Another party were for a crow bar , or some other leverage , by which they might lift up the mass of stone—these be would call the Chartists . Others were for getting ropes , and dragging off tbe stones , and there they all stood quarrelling , not one thought of getting the ropes , the crow-bar , or the gunpowder , but
contented themselves with calling each other ' s method the wrong one . What we want is a large increase of the Democratic spirit , no matter where it came from . We wanted a broad basis of Union laid down , where all could lay aside their minor differences ; it would take the concentrated union of the whole , to effect a Radical cure . See the wretched case of a lad , eighteen years old , who died the other day in the hospital , attempting to swallow a little water gruel , having been unable to procure any food during the previous four days . He was ashamed of living in a countury where such things could take place . They hear 4 talk some times of the people being driven to rise against such a system , but they were in a too starved , too emaciated a condition ever to rise . They had been drooping too
long , bad too long been deficient of physical force strength , ever to rise in physical force against their oppressors . In Poland they rose , because they met with a audden deprivation of the necessaries of life ; they had not been ground by the bastile system to the starvation point , or they never would have risen there . He called upon all , more especially the young , to take part ia these discussions , and show they were fit to enjoy the "representation . The old gentleman sat down amidst much cheering . —Mr . Ridley said , Mr . Chairman , it is rather a strange thing at a discussion to see three speakers on the same side of the question . I have a few words of opposition to offer to the last speaker . He has told you he does not like logic , and that we are too logical . I am for legic ; it is the art
of reasoning , whereby we may discover that of which we are in search—the true and right road to human happiness . He also told you that in ancient times they did not want food , because their wiso men often communed together : but , my friends , this is not the case hero ; our wise men commune together too frequently , for us ; they have become too wise , and , by their wisdom , have reduced us to our present deplorable condition ; but it waa not the wisdom of the sage that created the prosperity of ancient Greece ; it wa 3 the innate love of liberty which bnrned in their bosoms , which caused them to stand erect in their manhood , and walk as' gods on earth . The burning desire of liberty pervaded tbezr hearts ; it traversed each vein iu their manly bosoms , and they disdained to be the
sycophant slaves of a tyrannical despot . Do you find this burning current pervading your bosoms ? No ! ye are a race of servile slaves , one and all , or ye would rise erect as men , and demand your freedom—would strain every nerve to abolish the present accursed system—would , in a voice of thunder , demand the Suffrage . If ye valued liberty as I value it , ye would attain it without bloodshed . He must be a fiend , and not a man , that thirsts for the blood of his follow man—( hear , hear , hear , and cheers)—yet such is tbo effect of the present system , that in my late tour to spread the principles of the Charter , through the county of Wilts , the authorities set the blood-hounds of despotic power npon my track . Go where I would , they followed on my lair , thirsting to gratify their employers' love of vengeance ,
and yet these men were compelled to be slaves to this vicious system to obtain the means to keep their wives and children from starvation . L ^ - Ridley here exhibited a portion of the black bread of Wilts , for which the farmers compelled their men to pay tho bssfc price ( Cries of shame . ) Many in this assembly aro of opinion that no good could be effected unless we first get possession of the land . Trae , the land is our inheritance , but of what use will be the land unless we have the title-deeds ; unless we have our birth-right , the Suffrage ; we are for n claaa distinctions ; we will unite with one and all , on the broad principle of justice , for that right of which no human laws can deprive us . Let us then throw aside our petty feuds and jealousies , let U 3 away with all paltry quibbles , and declare to the despots of
the land that we are capable of managing our own affairs ; that despite of their cry of ignorance , we axe intelligent enough to see that the rights of capital have been protected , while those of labour have been neglected , and that We have spirit enough to determine that this shall no longer exist ; this is the cause of justice and of truth . There is no ism in this ; it embraces the whole , without distinction of creed , class , or colour . We do not covet the possessions of others ; true , they obtained them by violence and fraud , bat we are willing to forgive the past ; we want only the power to rectify the future ; we desire to see our . country no longer blasted with the evils of starvation ; we desire to see our sires and our mothers , when unable any longer to toil and spin , no longer to be separated from each otnsr , from everything that Is dear to them , no longer to be treated like dogs in a union bastile , but
to see them end their last days in their , own happy homes ia comfort and in peace ; we desire io see our children inherit a state of freedom and prosperity , and no longer to see them fall murdered victims to a system of ahameress Inhuttianity . The Bible tells us , that when God created' man , he created him in hifl own imago , "in the image of God created he him . " He never created a King , a Lord , a Duke , or a Lady , all were created equal . It any m&n ia superior to me in inteJUgecce , it h not by nature—it is by tuition ; it is because be baa been better educated . He has been to college , and I have not , or I might have been his equal , or perhaps his superior , for I thirst after knowledge . Give us then the power of making equal laws , and we will soon change the present howling wilderness into a beauteous paradise , where all shall be animated with the noble
spirit ; of the patriot TelL ( Mr . Ridley here gave some beauttous lines from William Tell , and sat down amid tremendous applause . ) Mr . Wall—Mr . Chairman , I
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cannot ogreej with some of the gents , who bave preceded me ; they bave denounced physical force . What has that to do / with the Charter removing the distress I One informs you be is no friend to logi «; another wastes your time by informing you what logic iau One refers you to the wise age of Solon , and another to the innate love of liberty in the Greeks . WKerewsui their love of their sages when they murdered them ? Surely they could not consider them -wise . The question was , would the Charter remove the distress . Where is the distress ? Why , amongst the working classes Wnence bas it sprung 1 Whj , ttom tha unequal distribution of property . You have been told to forgive the past I am not for forgiving the past . I am for obtaining ( I am not particular about the means )
the church property ; we should then need no Poor Law badge . I am for obtaining possession of all that has been wrested unjustly from us . Whence bas arisen oar present miserable condition , bat from the land ! being in the possession of a few ; we want a change of representation for the House of Commons , as a lever * age to again get possession of our own . . They , by their power of making laws , have been enabled to gain their property and influence , and oppress all who were not thus represented . Physical force bad been objected to . If you look at the past history of man , when did ha ever get rid of his grievances , save by rising in arms against them , ? Look at America , for instance ; how did she acquire her freedom , but by an armed resistance ? It is roy opiaion , that tha Charter-will not be a
complete remedy for our distress ; niany of our distresses partake more of a social character . Look at America ; there w « find them exercising the principles of tha Charter ia their highest perfection ; yet there we find the same parties in the state , only the Tories are turned Whigs , the Whigs Radicals , aad the Chartists loco / oco ' s ; but they have the same amount of distress that we have ; and they always had . Look at their banking system ; allowing parties to overstock , to glut the market with paper money , for their profit , and withdraw it at pleasure , to the xuin of thousands . Even in America parties were allowed to sell and purchase tha land , to parcel , it out among the monied classes , depriving the poor of a resource to fall back upon ; and thus we find our Poor Laws , even in America -we find
even there , crowded jails ; aad to their example we owe the infernal solitary confinement system . Our evils are more of a social than political character ; they arise from our class divisions , from our numberless religious sects , each looking upon the other , not as fellownion , but as devils ; and tbe same would still be the case , were we to have the Charter to-morrow ; bat still it would be a something gained ; our petitions , out remonstrances , would stand some chance of being noticed , and therefore remedied . This was not tha case at present . Look at the time Hunt presented tho petition from Manchester against the Cora Laws ; onlp six members of the Commons' House voted for it , white one hundred and twenty-one voted against it ; that of this number forty were manufacturers , out of whom
twenty are now tbo strong supporters of the Anti-Corn Law League ! How was it ? Why , they did not then feel the intolerable pressure . Their grievances were so numerous he might take up sll his time onlji enumerating them . At the head was the law of primogeniture , then the army and navy , then the national debt , and above all a state churcbu Mr . Ridley had said , if he had been sent to college he might have been more intelligent ; the case was the very reverse . Look at tha parsons for instance , why they were the stupidest fellows ia the community . Look at tbe pamphlets wrote by their Bishops ; from the earliest time to that of PMlpots } they were a disgrace to a school boy . That great distress does exist was evident ia this metropolis ; 12 S , # 00 human beings rose ia the morning who
knew not where to procure a meal ' s victuals ; ( a friend said half a million ) . He would take a note of it . But when any grievance was to be removed , the only way was to get the House of Commons on your side . It "was so in Catholic Emancipation , and all other reforms . It was the same in this case . We mast get a House of Commons elected on the principles of the Charter , and we should then have a chance of fair play in the many evils we had to compete against . —The Secretary said Mr . Wall had been partly for , partly against , and called upon any person to take the opposite side . —Mr . Turner said he , as a Socialist , could not allow this question to pass without opposition , thinking it was put forth as a feeler , to see whether Chartism or Socialism was most in favour with the public . ( Cries of No , and Question . )
He would keep to the question , then . He objected to the Chartists , because in supporting their principles they used such strong language , calling the men in power bloody despots , tyrants , < bc . He thought it was calculated to create evil feelings , indeed , ha objected to all barsh names . Socialism tended to mollify the passions of these men . I do not think the Charter -will remove the distress ; it does not go far enough ; it does net begin the right way . Of what nse will it be to elect the tnen of your choice and cheer them through tha street , if they do nothing afterwards ? I want to know what is to be tbe ultimatum , how the distress is to be relieved ? Show me that , and I would not
object to tne Charter . I believe the great evil "to ba competition , and to remove it we must take to co-operation . I object to your opposition te the Corn Laws . If we cannot get the whole , it is not worth while to quarrel with a part If you cannot cut down the trees , that ia no reason you should not lop off the branches . I am not boundto any system ; show me that yours is beat , and I -will adopt it . —Mr . Stallwood said , I appear before you in a better position than any other of tho speakers , seeing I have to follow two opponents . Most of the preceding speakers have wandered from the subject , even while complaining of the wanderings of others . He would go direct to the subject . The last speaker stated that if he could see in what manner the Charter
would relieve tho distress , ho would become a supporter of it The Charter , by giving 3 larger share of political power to the working classes , would enable them to return members to Parliament who would be intersted in removing the present enormous amount of our indirect taxation and . ' substituting a property tax in its stead ; would not this be a something gained ? We should also , by having the power of governing ouiselyes , remove the great c . iuse of disaffection which now exists , and the government would be no loDger forced to maintain such an extensive military and naval force to keep us in subjection ; we should be satisfied with our own management , even if it were not superior to the present , and we should be enabled to got rid of a host of policemen , judges , barristers , &c . who are now quartered upon
our resources . We should be enabled to manage with less jails , workhouses , and lunatic asylums , we should also be enabled to do justice to Ireland , by giving her a domestic legislature . Her landlords would be interested in staying at bome ; absenteeism would become a novelty ; the land would be well cultivated ; the resources of the nation would be brought into action , and Ireland would be prosperous . This would relieve us from tho competition of one million Irishmen now in the English labour market , for Irishmen love their native land , and . are only driven from it by the extreme of poverty . The last speaker said he was » Socialist ; would no o the attainment of tho Charter benefit the Socialists ? What was the reason they could not establish their Communities ? Not because their principles were
not based m truth , but because the distressed state of society would not allow them to aceumulato the means . What was the answer Mr . Owen got from the Vlarquia of Linsdowne some years ago , when ho applied to him for assistance ? " Ono ! it would be the ruin of our order . " Had net tbeir applications fcr loans always been rejected ? "What was the answer Mr . Ovren gob from the late Baron Rothschild , when he applied to him ? " O , you are the man thai ; advocates the doctrines of non-responsibility . " At every turn they were crippled for funds . But" let the Charter become law , and soon could a grant be made of some of the Waste land or the crown land , some of that now misemployed as race courses and parks , be made to you , to try the experiment of a Community . Soon would their measures of
education be carried into effect , Mr . Owea himself being , as he deserved , made Minister of Education . Soon would Halls similar to the present arise in every town in the kingdom , and prosperity and knowledge be universal . ( Loud cheer , s . ) r ^ Mr . Parry , after objecting to what had fallen from same of the previous speakers , stated that his only objection to the Charter was that it was only a half measure , that it was a semi-Suffrage , and not a universal one , that women ' s interests were neglected or rendered subservient ts those of man ; if the Charter was a remedy for distress , wa 8 it not necessary that woman should possess the remedy ? She had to bear the greater burden , the greater share of distress , and was equally entitled with man to the Suffrage . Mr . Ridley had quoted Scripture and said ,
that it was recorded " that Gcd created man , in his own likeness created he him ; " but why did he not conclude the quotation , " mala and female created ha them . " Mr . Parry , then , in an eloquent strain , dilated on the rights of woman , and was loudly applauded , and called upon O'Connor , O'Brien , and the other Chartist leaders to make the Charter a universal measure , by throwing aside every ancient prejudice , and boldly admitting , and declaring the lights of women . Mr . Parry concluded a long and eloquent display amid much cheering ; the time for closing the discussion having arrived , Mr . Farrell moved that the question for
discussion on the ensuing Friday be " The comparative benefits to be derived from an attainment of the Charter or a Repeal of the Corn Laws . " A motion was also made for the adjournment of the previous question ; but the discussion on the Corn Laws was carried by a large majority . The liberality of the Social body in allowing the use of their Hall for discussion , may be , if acted upon -with judgment , made a powerful agent in the spread of Chartism , as you have there an opportunity of laying your principles , free ef any expense , before a body of fifteen or sixteen hundred of liberalminded men , many of whom only stand aloof from the prejudice raised against us of being physical-force
men . East End Smoemakees . —A meeting waa held at tha Northern Star Coffee House , on Sunday , Oct 10 , Mr . MCaitby in the chair . After the transaction of the usual business , the following resolution was unani mously carried , ' . ' That the London Delegate Meeting be desired to request the Executive to pas 3 some general lule , specifying the time when , from nonpayment , && a person shall cease to become a member of tha National Charter Association . " Mr . Wheeler was in attendance to lecture , but owing to pressure , of business , it was postponed . A member of the National Executive will lecture on Snnday evening next , when a full attendance is requested . Delegates were appointed to tbe O'Brien Committee , and the meeting adjourned .
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